OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #50

[Caylee Advocate]

Thank you, Caylee.

You're welcome but I don't know what I did to be thanked for. lol.

 

[Betty P]

Betty, I apologize for anything I have done wrong, but with all due respect, I do not consider a Discovery Document on RN posted on Scribd to be "blind guesses" or "muddying the waters with too much speculation," but I am only a poster and have no authority here. As one last try, here is the document I was referring to. All JMO based on Discovery. Please see State's witness and Title. Thank you.

Newcomb Discovery

I'm sorry, Loomis, I wasn't implying you were in error. The name is on the document, yes. I'm just saying things get a little off course sometimes when we start playing a lot of guessing games about why someone's name is appearing on a witness list. It seems especially unfair when the person is a government or court employee who is probably just being called to discuss something routinely related to their job.

Maybe we should ask mods for some guidance regarding sleuthing and public discussion of innocent people who have simply been put on a witness list and who haven't done anything wrong.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Has anyone ever found out who put the bond up for Rita’s notaries stamp, where I live you have to have a $5000 dollar bond to be a notary public, either cash or property that is free and clear to stand good for corruption like this if it was to ever happen, JMO

 

[Daytocincy]

Has anyone ever found out who put the bond up for Rita’s notaries stamp, where I live you have to have a $5000 dollar bond to be a notary public, either cash or property that is free and clear to stand good for corruption like this if it was to ever happen, JMO

You do not have to post bond to be a notary in Ohio.

 

[Cool Cats]

• Has anyone ever found out who put the bond up for Rita’s notaries stamp, where I live you have to have a $5000 dollar bond to be a notary public, either cash or property that is free and clear to stand good for corruption like this if it was to ever happen, JMO

Do I need a bond or insurance?
A surety bond is not required in Ohio. Errors & Omissions (E&O) insurance is optional. This insurance helps protect the Notary — if you make an unintentional mistake or a false claim is filed against you, an E&O policy will cover your legal fees and awarded damages up to the coverage you select.
How To Become an Ohio Notary

 

[Loomis124]

New law for Ohio Notary

Sweeping Changes To Ohio Notary Law Going Into Effect

 

[Loomis124]

It looks like AW is up next, a week from Monday. This should be interesting. Hee Haw Part 2? JMO

08/28/2019 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Judge: DEERING, RANDY D Event: HEARING ON STATE'S MOTION TO SUSPEND DEFENDANT'S PRIVILEGES Date: 09/16/2019 Time: 01:30 PM

 

[Loomis124]

You're welcome but I don't know what I did to be thanked for. lol.

I can't be sure, but pretty sure a ghost policeman was in my bedroom last night and got into my phone!! LOL

 

[Cool Cats]

It looks like AW is up next, a week from Monday. This should be interesting. Hee Haw Part 2? JMO

08/28/2019 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Judge: DEERING, RANDY D Event: HEARING ON STATE'S MOTION TO SUSPEND DEFENDANT'S PRIVILEGES Date: 09/16/2019 Time: 01:30 PM

Phone privileges I assume. The judge will just do to her what he did to Rita:

Expand the the No Contact Rule/Communication Ban to be more specific about phone usage, and then admonish her that she'll lose phone privileges if it happens again. Why would he treat her any different than Rita? Would that even be fair?

Newcomb remains free, trial still set for October - Times Gazette

"...Deering said he was expanding the communication ban to include any phone calls between any of the suspects in the Rhoden case and the South Webster home......Deering said the ban applies to incoming or outgoing calls on the home’s landline and Newcomb’s cell phone.

"To cavalierly violate a court order is a serious thing,” Deering told Newcomb. In giving her a second chance, he warned her that even picking up the phone for a call from any of the defendants would put her behind bars..."

I heard him say in court that she would not be able to live there if it continues.


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[Loomis124]

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I'm sorry, Loomis, I wasn't implying you were in error. The name is on the document, yes. I'm just saying things get a little off course sometimes when we start playing a lot of guessing games about why someone's name is appearing on a witness list. It seems especially unfair when the person is a government or court employee who is probably just being called to discuss something routinely related to their job.

Maybe we should ask mods for some guidance regarding sleuthing and public discussion of innocent people who have simply been put on a witness list and who haven't done anything wrong.

I didn't sleuth her. I merely posted the Discovery document in trying to clear up the misunderstanding about her. She was not a part of the GJ and had nothing to do with RN's last hearing. I was just trying to clear that up. Thank you. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

Phone privileges I assume. The judge will just do to her what he did to Rita:

Expand the the No Contact Rule/Communication Ban to be more specific about phone usage, and then admonish her that she'll lose phone privileges if it happens again. Why would he treat her any different than Rita? Would that even be fair?

Newcomb remains free, trial still set for October - Times Gazette

"...Deering said he was expanding the communication ban to include any phone calls between any of the suspects in the Rhoden case and the South Webster home......Deering said the ban applies to incoming or outgoing calls on the home’s landline and Newcomb’s cell phone.

"To cavalierly violate a court order is a serious thing,” Deering told Newcomb. In giving her a second chance, he warned her that even picking up the phone for a call from any of the defendants would put her behind bars..."

I heard him say in court that she would not be able to live there if it continues.


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Let's hope for a much stricter judgement by Deering on AW. After all, she is charged with 8 counts of aggravated murder and SO much more. JMO Directly disobeyed and initiated the contact of the court's order of NO contact. Ice is getting thin, IMO.

 

[Cool Cats]

Let's hope for a much stricter judgement by Deering on AW. After all, she is charged with 8 counts of aggravated murder and SO much more. JMO Directly disobeyed and initiated the contact of the court's order of NO contact. Ice is getting thin, IMO.

The strictest thing he will do is ban AW from calling those 2 phone numbers altogether. She won't be able to call Rita's landline or Rita's cell phone number for any reason. For some reason she was allowed to call those 2 numbers whenever she wanted.

The jail will monitor her calls and then when she calls the banned number and Rita picks up the phone and it's recorded --- there's proof AW called the number and proof Rita picked up the phone --- then Rita will be sitting in jail and Angie will only be able to call her attorneys for a specified time period.

This of course is just my opinion on what the outcome will be for Angie 's Revoke Privileges Motion Hearing. I will be glad if I'm wrong and Deering does go ahead and revokes her privileges, which again, I assume it's phone privileges and no other privileges.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I can't be sure, but pretty sure a ghost policeman was in my bedroom last night and got into my phone!! LOL

Maybe it was the same ghostly man in uniform that RN swore under oath she seen in court. He's getting braver I guess if he is going into chicks bedrooms.

 

[Fletcher73]

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I didn't sleuth her. I merely posted the Discovery document in trying to clear up the misunderstanding about her. She was not a part of the GJ and had nothing to do with RN's last hearing. I was just trying to clear that up. Thank you. JMO

IMO Loomis was trying to say that "GL" listed in RN's Discovery is a different person than the witness who testified as the Grand Jury court reporter. The Grand Jury court reporter's name was Parmeter (sp?). She testified there was no uniformed officer in the Grand Jury room during RN's time there. RN's attorney had claimed that as an irregularity: Judge Deering said no irregularity was established.

For some reason I, too, thought the court reporter who was called to testify last week would be the listed court reporter (GL) who works for Pike County. Now I think that GL may have been the person who received the filing of the allegedly forged documents in question. GL may have provided an affidavit identifying the person(s) who filed the notarized documents. jmo/moo.

If I misunderstood you, Loomis, just let me know.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

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[Loomis124]

Maybe it was the same ghostly man in uniform that RN swore under oath she seen in court. He's getting braver I guess if he is going into chicks bedrooms.

I'm pretty sure he was the same one she saw!! Lol

 

[Loomis124]

IMO Loomis was trying to say that "GL" listed in RN's Discovery is a different person than the witness who testified as the Grand Jury court reporter. The Grand Jury court reporter's name was Parmeter (sp?). She testified there was no uniformed officer in the Grand Jury room during RN's time there. RN's attorney had claimed that as an irregularity: Judge Deering said no irregularity was established.

For some reason I, too, thought the court reporter who was called to testify last week would be the listed court reporter (GL) who works for Pike County. Now I think that GL may have been the person who received the filing of the allegedly forged documents in question. GL may have provided an affidavit identifying the person(s) who filed the notarized documents. jmo/moo.

If I misunderstood you, Loomis, just let me know.

Correct! Thanks.

 

[Betty P]

The strictest thing he will do is ban AW from calling those 2 phone numbers altogether. She won't be able to call Rita's landline or Rita's cell phone number for any reason. For some reason she was allowed to call those 2 numbers whenever she wanted.

The jail will monitor her calls and then when she calls the banned number and Rita picks up the phone and it's recorded --- there's proof AW called the number and proof Rita picked up the phone --- then Rita will be sitting in jail and Angie will only be able to call her attorneys for a specified time period.

This of course is just my opinion on what the outcome will be for Angie 's Revoke Privileges Motion Hearing. I will be glad if I'm wrong and Deering does go ahead and revokes her privileges, which again, I assume it's phone privileges and no other privileges.

I asked one of WS's verified attorneys about this yesterday. PrairieWind replied that gag orders overall are on somewhat shaky legal ground. They also said that the defense attorneys for all the defendants are talking to each other and developing strategies for how all the hearings and trials will proceed. They agreed, the judge probably went lenient for that reason and also to "give them more rope" to reveal information that can be used against them in court. Also, the defense attorneys are probably livid about the defendants talking to each other.

Just passing this along. You're right, the judge may restrict AW from calling certain people. Perhaps he will restrict phone calls only to the defense attorneys.

ETA: To clarify, perhaps the judge will only allow AW to call her defense attorneys.

 

[Betty P]

IMO Loomis was trying to say that "GL" listed in RN's Discovery is a different person than the witness who testified as the Grand Jury court reporter. The Grand Jury court reporter's name was Parmeter (sp?). She testified there was no uniformed officer in the Grand Jury room during RN's time there. RN's attorney had claimed that as an irregularity: Judge Deering said no irregularity was established.

For some reason I, too, thought the court reporter who was called to testify last week would be the listed court reporter (GL) who works for Pike County. Now I think that GL may have been the person who received the filing of the allegedly forged documents in question. GL may have provided an affidavit identifying the person(s) who filed the notarized documents. jmo/moo.

If I misunderstood you, Loomis, just let me know.

Agree, I think the government employees listed in the prosecution's discovery documents are simply there to testify if needed about "chain of evidence" issues. Their purpose is to verify that evidence was received and handled, etc.

 

[Betty P]

I can't be sure, but pretty sure a ghost policeman was in my bedroom last night and got into my phone!! LOL

Was he wearing a navy blue uniform of some kind?