OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #53

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  • #561
Thankx! I have an appointment with my attorney regarding my sister's estate and I will actually ask him about this. I reached out to MSM Ohio reporters and Websleuth's friends, and thus was sent Jake's full legal custody affidavit, so why not talk to my own attorney? Right?

Affidavit in Support of Ex Parte Order of Temporary Custody
April 28, 2016 - Edward Jacob Wagner -

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Because your own attorney will charge you....by the minute....

Thanks for persuing and attaining the additional official information on JW's Documents for us.[/QUOTE]

Puzzles, I get an error message when trying to open the links.
 
  • #562
Thankx! I have an appointment with my attorney regarding my sister's estate and I will actually ask him about this. I reached out to MSM Ohio reporters and Websleuth's friends, and thus was sent Jake's full legal custody affidavit, so why not talk to my own attorney? Right?

Affidavit in Support of Ex Parte Order of Temporary Custody
April 28, 2016 - Edward Jacob Wagner -

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/79558927-0643-4856-954b-3b508dafcc01-jpeg.225927/

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/0297fcc4-351b-4852-84f1-07b0624dcbf1-jpeg.225928/

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/01fd9951-3155-427a-9731-bd94a4ed491d-jpeg.225929/[/QUOTE]


Because your own attorney will charge you....by the minute....

Thanks for persuing and attaining the additional official information on JW's Documents for us.[/QUOTE]

DBM
 
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  • #565
IMO, this is questionable. The defendant's address is Ohio, but the plaintiff's information is Florida. JMO

She was in the military.
 
  • #566
She was in the military.
After her kids were born?

ETA: Does anyone have definite confirmation that AW was ever in the military? I recall discussions that she might have been in the military, but I don't recall whether it was a fact or just based on opinion. IMO. Just curious.
 
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So unbelievable...no pun intended. No juror should ever take the quick way out just because they don't want to spend another night...geez...very sad. I cannot imagine what your family went through. I hope for healing.

Thanks. I don’t know if you consider it healing but we have accepted the fact there is nothing we can do and have moved on. She’s gone but not forgotten.
 
  • #570
If you go to HR's facebook page and glance at the photos she posts of SW not one Wagner liked or loved the picture. How is that even possible when AW herself claimed HR was like a daughter to her? Also the last thing HR posted to her facebook was a timeline photo of a bed of flowers with a quote that reads: "It's gonna be okay" followed by "Yeah because its not happening to you". That was posted April 16th 2016.

DR's last post was also on her timeline of a flat redline, very ominous. It was posted April 20, 2016.

I chose not to go to their facebooks but did out of curiosity. I dont mean to offend anyone especially the Rhodens, Manleys, or gilleys
Just too sad, tragic
 
  • #571
Thankx for answering my question.
What you are saying is different from what the other poster said.
You said it is hearsay if HR told the person herself, but the witness did not see the abuse first hand.

Yes the witness has to actually see it, the only exception to it not being hearsay is if it was a "deathbed statement". An example of a deathbed statement would be the victim stated that such-and-such attacked them, or the victim knew their death was imminent and this may be how the prosecution could get around BJM testifying to HR telling her JW was violent, if HR said to BJM or others "if I die JW killed me" or "I'm afraid he is going to kill me". It can be very complicated and will be up to the judge if it considered hearsay or a final statement before death and if can be admitted by the prosecution.
 
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https://eaccess.co.ross.oh.us/eservices/home.page.2

Angela Wagner
Case Number 94DR000489 vs. Campfield, Thomas W.
Parentage
11/18/1994
Ross County Common Pleas Court

This is very much on topic.


I’m looking at this and trying to figure out what it means.
I get the idea it may be some sort of child support thing....(what child?)
But, the address was old, couldn’t find the man, and it was dropped.

Any thoughts?
 
  • #574
I’m looking at this and trying to figure out what it means.
I get the idea it may be some sort of child support thing....(what child?)
But, the address was old, couldn’t find the man, and it was dropped.

Any thoughts?

Ann, I'm not sure. I have seen it mentioned by several. The earlier post about it was in Feb this year, it got deleted yesterday, along the one I posted. Just google the name. JMO
 
  • #575
IMO, this is questionable. The defendant's address is Ohio, but the plaintiff's information is Florida. JMO

I notice the plaintiff's information is C/O the courthouse in Florida, but the same plaintiff's attorney is in Ohio.

However ... the case dates back to 1994, so that could not be related to parentage of SW who was 2 when the murders occurred in 2018.
 
  • #576
I’m looking at this and trying to figure out what it means.
I get the idea it may be some sort of child support thing....(what child?)
But, the address was old, couldn’t find the man, and it was dropped.

Any thoughts?
That name shows up for a conviction of an Ohio man back in 2006, still incarcerated in Ohio.
 
  • #577
I notice the plaintiff's information is C/O the courthouse in Florida, but the same plaintiff's attorney is in Ohio.

However ... the case dates back to 1994, so that could not be related to parentage of SW who was 2 when the murders occurred in 2018.

I didn't make the original post with the link and said it was "very much on topic". Refer to post 564 where that comment was made. I'm the one--in post 565--who said the link/info was questionable as to any relation to the AW in Ohio charged with the murders in this cse. I guess I didn't state my point very clearly.

IMO, the AW listed in the link is another person named Angela Wagner--Not the AW who is accused of the Rhoden/Gilley murders. Because it is in 1994 and because it involves someone in Florida, I do not think it is in any way related to any of the W4.

Perhaps the original poster can provide a link/info as to how it is related to the AW charged with this case?
 
  • #578
I’m looking at this and trying to figure out what it means.
I get the idea it may be some sort of child support thing....(what child?)
But, the address was old, couldn’t find the man, and it was dropped.

Any thoughts?

Would she be a Wagner back then?
 
  • #579
I didn't make the original post with the link and said it was "very much on topic".

I know you didn't. Sorry if you got that impression from my post.
 
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