GUILTY OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #68

[Covert Operative]

Just spitballing and in no way supporting these disgusting people, but maybe the three W4 guys went to the funerals just to put up a front--i.e., they were supposed to be such good friends with the R family, it would seem out of place if they didn't go to their funerals <insert a really disgusted eye roll here>. Maybe they thought it would deflect people's and LE's suspicion away from them if they went to the funerals. Just a thought.

It took a hell of a lot of audacity to walk into those funerals. (one emoji for each of the lost)

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I wonder if they even knew GR that well. Since his funeral was in KY might not seem strange if they had not attended. I think maybe they wanted to hear what was being said and were so curious as to what GR looked like at the funeral compared to the way he looked after they murdered him. ugh
His funeral was first so they were probably eager to go and hear the talk. They probably wanted to admire their killing skills also.

 

[Berrybell]

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I wonder if they even knew GR that well. Since his funeral was in KY might not seem strange if they had not attended. I think maybe they wanted to hear what was being said and were so curious as to what GR looked like at the funeral compared to the way he looked after they murdered him. ugh
His funeral was first so they were probably eager to go and hear the talk. They probably wanted to admire their killing skills also.

Kinda of like the deer heads they have mounted on their walls as trophies. They had to be there to brag to themselves, hear what is being said, and see how the rest of the Rhoden/Manley/Gilly family reacts to them.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Maybe like the butt of a gun hit him or a fist. Would be the side of his face for a good right hook from someone facing him. Maybe that SKS got jerked out of one of their hands by a victim and it went up side his head.

Would be kind of dumb to go to the funeral like that but I am sure he had some good excuse, like a horse had kicked him in the face.

Billy and the two sons went to the funeral so they could spread lies to throw everybody off their trail and also I think they where doing recon surveillance, if any of the family where saying anything about the Wagners they would be next to die, JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Billy and the two sons went to the funeral so they could spread lies to throw everybody off their trail and also I think they where doing recon surveillance, if any of the family where saying anything about the Wagners they would be next to die, JMO

I am surprised they went to Gary's funeral, I have never heard anything in going on 6 years in MSM or on SM saying anything about the Wagners having a relationship with Gary.

What this tells me is that they were going to the funerals for 2 reasons.

One, to look not guilty, to play along with everyone. And two, to listen intently to what everyone had to say about who they think did it.

You can bet your bottom dollar they were listening for people to say something about the custody dispute, something that pointed in the direction of the Wagners.

The Wagners spied on the ex-wives, Hanna, the ex MIL, they hacked their SM accounts and had people spy and report back to them.

So what do spys do? They do what the Wagners did and insert themselves right in the middle of funerals to listen to what people are saying as to who they think might have done it.

Then they go home and discuss what they found out and plan out what to say when questioned by LE, plan how to put the blame on others like the Manleys for example.

We know Billy had other suspects he wanted BCI to know about:

Pictured, people in laser focus of multiple murder hunt | Daily Mail Online

He (Wagner attorney) said the Wagners had supplied police with invaluable information to help the investigation.

'Why have the authorities not follow up on the leads that the Wagners wanted to give? Is it because the authorities carelessly waited 4-5 months to get back to Billy Wagner?

Even FW had other suspects she told to Billy's attorneys:

03/26/2021 MOTION NO. 68 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DEPOSE CRITICAL WITNESS PURSUANT TO CRIM. R. 15 FILED

At the hearing on October 25, 2021, the Defendant withdrew the following motions........."DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DEPOSE CRITICAL WITNESS PURSUANT TO CRIM. R. 15

"The anticipated testimony points strongly to the defenfant's actual innocence and the guilt of another person or group of people. Counsel can provide details to the court under seal so as not to cause this witness any undue harassment before the deposition is conducted."

The descriptions in the Motion sound exactly like FW and mention that her husband also was a witness before he passed.

 

[Covert Operative]

Billy and the two sons went to the funeral so they could spread lies to throw everybody off their trail and also I think they where doing recon surveillance, if any of the family where saying anything about the Wagners they would be next to die, JMO

You may be right. I think they just could not wait one more second to go hear what was being said and admire their dirty work.

 

[Piffcat]

i believe they went to garys because they could keep a lower profile. a big part of their plan involved wiping away any trace of bad blood and the custody battle. billy going to the funeral of crsr with his face bruised up was too risky and might start the wrong convo. gary was in kentucky he was the most tangential connection and their would be less people there to assemble the pieces. this information in the clip was spotted by tr himself a year and half ago imo. while counter surveillance was important i believe the major allure of the funeral presence was to bask in their handiwork. truly sick stuff but 100 percent on brand for the wagner crime family. something about seeing the video really brought it home for me how bad these people are. words only go so far to see them swagger in their proud is just so bad

 

[Cool Cats]

i believe they went to garys because they could keep a lower profile. a big part of their plan involved wiping away any trace of bad blood and the custody battle. billy going to the funeral of crsr with his face bruised up was too risky and might start the wrong convo. gary was in kentucky he was the most tangential connection and their would be less people there to assemble the pieces. this information in the clip was spotted by tr himself a year and half ago imo. while counter surveillance was important i believe the major allure of the funeral presence was to bask in their handiwork. truly sick stuff but 100 percent on brand for the wagner crime family. something about seeing the video really brought it home for me how bad these people are. words only go so far to see them swagger in their proud is just so bad

Maybe they did go to Chris Sr's funeral. It actually would look odd to go to Gary's but not go to Chris Sr/Hanna's if they wanted to look innocent. Their closer connection was to Hanna and Chris Sr.

Billy wanted the narrative to be out there that he and Chris were best friends and Jake wanted the narrative to be out there that all was well with joint parenting and Angela wanted the narrative out there that Hanna was like a daughter to her.

If Billy wanted to hide his face I think he would have skipped Gary's funeral, Rhoden friends and family and media would have seen him there same as at any of the funerals.

Almost 6 years later and there is this media clip of him, right in front of the news cameras, battered face and all.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Maybe they did go to Chris Sr's funeral. It actually would look odd to go to Gary's but not go to Chris Sr/Hanna's if they wanted to look innocent. Their closer connection was to Hanna and Chris Sr.

Billy wanted the narrative to be out there that he and Chris were best friends and Jake wanted the narrative to be out there that all was well with joint parenting and Angela wanted the narrative out there that Hanna was like a daughter to her.

If Billy wanted to hide his face I think he would have skipped Gary's funeral, Rhoden friends and family and media would have seen him there same as at any of the funerals.

Almost 6 years later and there is this media clip of him, right in front of the news cameras, battered face and all.

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You got to remember that the Wagners where use to get by with what ever they wanted to do, JMO
They won almost every case that they where in court with back in the day!

 

[Berrybell]

Around 1:37 on the video it shows G3, G4 and JW walking into GR funeral. I have reason to believe that JW was at HR's funeral. opinion


As investigation continues, funeral services planned for 8 killed in Pike County slayings - YouTube

I am assuming AW was home with the kids taking over her roll as mommy.

 

[Covert Operative]

I am assuming AW was home with the kids taking over her roll as mommy.

Probably baking cookies and such. Betty Crocker and the Dough boys.......

 

[Berrybell]

Probably baking cookies and such. Betty Crocker and the Dough boys.......

LOL. That is funny!

 

[Nanasteele]

MOO! I feel like CRsr put up a fight with him being shot 9 times so it is reasonable to see bruising on the killers. I cannot imagine going to the funerals and watching the family cry and their hearts breaking.

I agree with Berrybell! I believe CrSR gave them a fight or they beat him afterwards which wouldn't surprise me. JMO

 

[Covert Operative]

LOL. That is funny!

Not a phrase I coined, but one I heard in reference to them once. ha

 

[Chris_p_bacon]

Around 1:37 on the video it shows G3, G4 and JW walking into GR funeral. I have reason to believe that JW was at HR's funeral. opinion
As investigation continues, funeral services planned for 8 killed in Pike County slayings - YouTube

@Berrybell It looks like one, definitely something that looks like it would not be there normally. You would think he would have at least used some makeup to cover it if so. I guess they were to eager to get to the funeral to hear what was being said and they wanted to see how GR looked compared to when they last know how he looked. ugh

I believe GR funeral was first, so bruises would still be there and at that time would have even been faded somewhat probably, must have been some pretty deep ones to show up that well, still. Would be about a week out after the murders.

Wow. I am just amazed at this. I remember when this first happened thinking whoever murdered 8 members of one family in 4 different homes had to have known the family. Therfore, it was highly likely to me at that time the murderers might have been at the funerals. But to show up at the funeral with marks on your face when it is all over the news there was an intense struggle at one of the residences. Wow. Not the brightest bulbs are they. I do not know how I missed this video/pic till now.

 

[Covert Operative]

Wow. I am just amazed at this. I remember when this first happened thinking whoever murdered 8 members of one family in 4 different homes had to have known the family. Therfore, it was highly likely to me at that time the murderers might have been at the funerals. But to show up at the funeral with marks on your face when it is all over the news there was an intense struggle at one of the residences. Wow. Not the brightest bulbs are they. I do not know how I missed this video/pic till now.

I think everyone missed it for the most part. I became aware of it from another source which I was not sure I could post (credit) in WS. It is my opinion JW went to HR funeral.

 

[Piffcat]

i def agree jake almost certainly was there. he was still in communication with kendra for like a year after. she showed up at the farm raid all distraught. considering how quickly he filed for custody after the murder he would have been hyper focused on playing out the rest of the sheraid. guy had the nerve to file a go fund me page after killing hanna!! always makes ne smile when i remeber jake and angela runnning their smug mouths in the paper and being so suspicious. then filing for a correction with chris graves! no poker face at all. you dont usually see conspiracy indictments with no primary witnesses to the conspiracy. talking at the border about the shoes did them in. now there was something concrete in the cops who knew theyd done it. same thing with forged custody documents. they never even used them!! but once you see them do something like that there is no other explanation.

 

[ohioexpat63]

Opinion

The audacity this family had attending GRs funeral is truly despicable. The 2 remaining cases can't be settled fast enough. They need to be housed in the worst prison ohio has to offer. I don't understand the legal process and why it takes so long for decisions to be made. I understand due process but this is insanity. Place them deep under the prison with like-minded animals.

 

[Dudly]

Opinion

The audacity this family had attending GRs funeral is truly despicable. The 2 remaining cases can't be settled fast enough. They need to be housed in the worst prison ohio has to offer. I don't understand the legal process and why it takes so long for decisions to be made. I understand due process but this is insanity. Place them deep under the prison with like-minded animals.

The length of this process has become ridiculous. I understand the Defense being allowed their say, but, nothing they say would change the outcome. It’s time to get on with trials. I fear Ms. Geneva will not get to see them sentenced and she surely deserves that…

 

[Puzzles8]

i cant take credit for finding this but i wanted to make sure everyone sees it. this is how evil the wagner crime family is. footage of garys funeral on local media picks up g3 g4 and jw walking into the funeral. billys face is badly bruised jake and g4 have their murder kit hair dyed jet black. these ppl are beyond sick. g4 doesnt deserve any consideration except which execution method he wants. unreal.

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screen grab is from 1:37 in the link

You bring up an excellent point. There still remains a great mystery as to why the boys dyed their hair jet black

JMO

 

[Covert Operative]

2018CR000155 STATE OF OHIO -vs- WAGNER, IV, GEORGE WASHINGTON
03/22/2022 Judge: DEERING, RANDY D
Event: MOTION HEARING
Date: 04/05/2022
Time: 09:00 AM
03/25/2022 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON APRIL 5, 2022 AT 9:00 AM.
**There is nothing on the court calendar yet on April 4th or 5th for BW.