OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #69

[Cool Cats]

Can you copy and paste that in a browser and try it that way? You can put in his name or his ID is 20031630.

Still can't get it to work but

I just called booking at the Scioto County jail and they said they do have him there. So straight information from the Scioto jail they say he is in their jail and on their roster.

Likely moved to be much closer to court.

 

[Covert Operative]

Thanks for this doc.
I would think many witnesses would not want to be videoed and or recorded. It will be interesting. After reading thru entire document, I honestly don’t see how the local Courthouse can accommodate all people and procedures related to the actual trial. Think about how crowded the courtroom was on the day Jake Admitted Guilt. With all extended family attending, it was standing room only. That did not include much media presence.
I just don’t see how this can work out space wise and then with added security for the Trial.

So I guess AW and JW could ask not to have video or audio? and many other critical witnesses could also. That would be very destructive to try to follow the trial if you are not in the courtoom.
I can think of a few that may make that request.

 

[Puzzles8]

I posted him being in Scioto on the inmate search. Did you see that?
View attachment 353207

So why do do you think he has been moved so often in the last few months?

Maybe a plea in the works?

JMO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Anyone know why GW4 was transferred to Scioto County jail today ?

So why do do you think he has been moved so often in the last few months?

Maybe a plea in the works?

JMO

This is my understanding. Transfer from Ross County to Montgomery County was because of in house disagreements between a few inmates. Transfer from Montgomery County to Scioto County was logistical. Portsmouth to Waverly is about 28 miles and it's straight up Route 23. Scioto County jail is basically right on Route 23 *just one little turn into like a strip mall area* and Pike County court in just one turn off Route 23.

It just makes less miles to court every day and less time involved. They would have to leave Montgomery County around 6:30-7:00ish, and Scioto County maybe 8:00ish. IMO he just might stay in Scioto County jail for his duration... guess we'll have to wait and see. All MOO.

 

[Niner]

Friday, July 8th:
*Jury Selection Questionnaire (Day 4) (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 30) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table if his testimony is truthful.
Trial set to begin on 8/29/22 with general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence, etc. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).
7/8/22 & 7/11/22 through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.
8/8/22 through 8/12/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/15/22 through 8/19/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/29/22 at 9am - beginning of trial, including general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence & so forth. The jury trial is scheduled for 30 days.
Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 6/30/22 & Jury Questionnaires (Day 1-2) 7/5 & 7/6/22 reference post #502 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-69.623311/page-26
7/1/22: Order regarding media participation & general decorum at all proceedings including but not limited to pretrials, motion hearing, voir dire and/or trial filed.
7/6/22: Warrant for removal from Monday, 8/15/22 & each day thereafter thru Friday, 8/19/22; the defendant shall arrive at the Pike County Common Pleas Court on or before 9am. Warrant for removal from Montgomery County jail on Monday, 8/29/22 & each weekday thereafter until further notice; defendant shall arrive at the Pike County court on or before 8:30am each day.
7/7/22 Thursday, Jury questionnaires Day 3: Jury questionnaires continued on 7/8/22. GW4 was in court on 7/6 & 7/7 & will be in court on 7/8, 7/12, 7/13 & 7/14/22 per warrant for removal (7/6/22).
*George Washington Wagner III (47/now 51) – Pretrial hearing on 2/1/22.
*Edward Jacob “Jake” Wagner (26/now 29) – Plead guilty (4/22/21) to all charges & will testify in the trials.
*Angela Jo Wagner (48/now 51) – 9/10/21: Plead guilty to a plea deal to Counts 9 thru 22, Counts 1-8 were dismissed. Will be sentenced to 30 years in prison with no early release & has to testify against others at trial.
*Rita Jo Newcomb (65/now 69) – Last Motions hearing on 12/2/19 entered a plea of guilty. Expected to testify in the trials.
*Fredericka Carol Wagner (76/now 80) – 6/26/19 Charges were dismissed without prejudice.

 

[Niner]

Per court site above (post #518) - it looks like he won't be in court on 7/11/22.
and per my notes:
7/11/22 through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.

07/06/2022

WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 12, 13, 14, 2022 AT 9:00AM

 

[Niner]

I couldn't get past the court site image -

I was going to add - I shall put the next hearing - on 7/12/22 instead of the 7/11/22 - maybe they changed it and just didn't tell us about that....


If anyone sees anything different - please "tag" me!

 

[ohioexpat63]

Pike county is so small in population it may become an issue in jury selection. Plus, of the number of people residing in pike county, how many are registered voters to become eligible? Id imagine the jury pool will be small compared to most counties in ohio. GW4 may get a jury from Pike but GW3 may get a jury elsewhere. Jmo

 

[ohioexpat63]

I believe everyone is innocent until proven guilty. However, the weight of the two pleas sealed the fate of 3 and 4. They can seat a jury in Montana and theyll be found just as guilty. IMO

 

[Covert Operative]

So why do do you think he has been moved so often in the last few months?

Maybe a plea in the works?

JMO

I think this time is so he can be at the court proceedings. My opinion is last time it was because of some problems between him and some other inmates. Now he has inmates/informants that are going to testify against him. Wilson said in a hearing that their testimony is in line with what the state already knew.

 

[Covert Operative]

Still can't get it to work but

I just called booking at the Scioto County jail and they said they do have him there. So straight information from the Scioto jail they say he is in their jail and on their roster.

Likely moved to be much closer to court.

Try this link. If the inmates names do not come up automatically, Do not put his name in or anything else, just hit search. It should either bring up the names in alphabetical order or it will bring them up in booking date order. Maybe you can find him that way. Then just hit next til you get to his name. You can also try to put in just the last name and see if he comes up. The site is not the most user friendly. https://70.60.28.54:8443/TDT_Viewer/actions/FilterInmateInformation.do

 

[Cool Cats]

Try this link. If the inmates names do not come up automatically, Do not put his name in or anything else, just hit search. It should either bring up the names in alphabetical order or it will bring them up in booking date order. Maybe you can find him that way. Then just hit next til you get to his name. You can also try to put in just the last name and see if he comes up. The site is not the most user friendly. https://70.60.28.54:8443/TDT_Viewer/actions/FilterInmateInformation.do

It worked! Thanks!

Came up same photo you got. Doesn't specifically say Scioto County but we already know he is in the Scioto jail.

 

[Cool Cats]

07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 6, 2022 AT 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 7TH AND 8TH, 2022 AT 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 12, 13, 14, 2022 AT 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTOGMERY COUNTY JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 2022 AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 12, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM SCIOTO CO JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 2022 AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 12, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL, MONDAY, AUGUST 15, 2022, AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 19, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONDAY, AUGUST 15, 2022 AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 19, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2022 AND EACH WEEKDAY THEREAFTER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 8:30 EACH DAY
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM SCIOTO CO JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2022, AND EACH WEEKDAY THEREAFTER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 8:30AM EACH DAY

https://cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov/eservices/searchresults.page?x=iasYCdelH0f44cXR8niKgePQw05xfz3JPEwDVfY0LM67RYSmQfzN3P7pCogFcdfSWbgiqWI3diCLxfCWIP4epg

 

[Cool Cats]

Pike county is so small in population it may become an issue in jury selection. Plus, of the number of people residing in pike county, how many are registered voters to become eligible? Id imagine the jury pool will be small compared to most counties in ohio. GW4 may get a jury from Pike but GW3 may get a jury elsewhere. Jmo

In Ohio they also get names from registrar of motor vehicles.

"The annual jury source list will be the voter list combined with names from the registrar of motor vehicles"

JuryDuty101 - Jury Duty Laws, Pay, and More By State

www.juryduty101.com

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[Covert Operative]

Pike county is so small in population it may become an issue in jury selection. Plus, of the number of people residing in pike county, how many are registered voters to become eligible? Id imagine the jury pool will be small compared to most counties in ohio. GW4 may get a jury from Pike but GW3 may get a jury elsewhere. Jmo

They said in court that only 20-25 percent of summoned people showed up in Pike county court on a good day.

 

[Covert Operative]

You can also check custody staus on Vine, even if you have not registered and it gives you info.

VINELink

vinelink.vineapps.com

 

[Cool Cats]

They said in court that only 20-25 percent of summoned people showed up in Pike county court on a good day.

I have a feeling more will show up because of the possibility of serving as a juror in George's trial.

I mean, some people will really want to be on that jury.

But people missing a month of work week days and not getting paid by their employers could work against a jury pool.

This isn't just a week trial.

 

[Covert Operative]

I have a feeling more will show up because of the possibility of serving as a juror in George's trial.

I mean, some people will really want to be on that jury.

But people missing a month of work week days and not getting paid by their employers could work against a jury pool.

This isn't just a week trial.

Yes, some will really want to and some will really not want to be on the jury. I have been on one for a week and it was enough for me. My husband was on a DP case for a month trial.
When I did it, my employer also paid me my full salary but a lot of employers may not be that generous or cannot be that generous, so it could cause hardship for sure.

 

[Piffcat]

georges only chance is a mistrial. it only takes one idiot to deadlock a jury, how many of the potential jurors have freddy as a landlord???

 

[Cool Cats]

georges only chance is a mistrial. it only takes one idiot to deadlock a jury, how many of the potential jurors have freddy as a landlord???

They would be excluded.. Too much bias.
Prosecution isn't dumb.