OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #70

[Chelly]

We should get some media reporting during break. Or not.

 

[iridized]

AC is ummm, a gift to George.

 

[iridized]

On a positive note, it looks like Geneva Rhoden managed to make it upstairs today and is not on Oxygen.

 

[SuziQ]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1569300972018581505

 

[justtrish]

This is the first I recall learning that they took everyone's cell phones that night. Is that new to us info? Everyone but Hanna Hazel and I think one other. Interesting because those other phones likely had damning info maybe?

 

[Chelly]

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(in green) inside the courtroom for opening statements in #PikeCountyMassacre trial.

 

[24Roses]

I was a little concerned also with AC's grammar during the opening statments, but a former legal person on Court TV said that she was doing well delivering her statement.
What time are the coming back from lunch break? Any indication AC is almost finished with her statement?
If the defense statment is this detailed and long, IMO there won't be many if any witnesses testifying today.
It was good to see Geneva Rhoden in court today. She looks like a very strong lady to go through all she has.

 

[almond]

I was a little concerned also with AC's grammar during the opening statments, but a former legal person on Court TV said that she was doing well delivering her statement.
What time are the coming back from lunch break? Any indication AC is almost finished with her statement?
If the defense statment is this detailed and long, IMO there won't be many if any witnesses testifying today.
It was good to see Geneva Rhoden in court today. She looks like a very strong lady to go through all she has.

I agree with the legal person on Court TV. I think AC is doing a good job.

 

[joe jones]

Surprised by the states opening, Canepa seemed far more assertive and prepared in her courtroom demeanor than in this opening statement when she was arguing in court during pretrial hearings, she is going over all the evidence in a logical and chronological fashion but keeps wandering off topic and then having to add things she has missed telling jury,

Maybe her strengths are in the questioning of witnesses and arguing on points of law, I am very pleased though that they have all the evidence on a computer, and she can pull up documents and pictures as needed, so that the jury can see the evidence she is talking about, chilling to see the actual gun in Jakes hand,

 

[justtrish]

Surprised by the states opening, Canepa seemed far more assertive and prepared in her courtroom demeanor than in this opening statement when she was arguing in court during pretrial hearings, she is going over all the evidence in a logical and chronological fashion but keeps wandering off topic and then having to add things she has missed telling jury,

Maybe her strengths are in the questioning of witnesses and arguing on points of law, I am very pleased though that they have all the evidence on a computer, and she can pull up documents and pictures as needed, so that the jury can see the evidence she is talking about, chilling to see the actual gun in Jakes hand,

I think with this long of a trial, most won't recall much about this opening statement anyway. If they jury is allowed to take notes, then maybe they can note points she is making and refer back, but this is so long it's impossible to really remember it all. The witnesses and evidence will speak loud and clear and then someone (maybe not her if this is how a closing will go) needs to deliver a precise and short closing.

 

[24Roses]

I think with this long of a trial, most won't recall much about this opening statement anyway. If they jury is allowed to take notes, then maybe they can note points she is making and refer back, but this is so long it's impossible to really remember it all. The witnesses and evidence will speak loud and clear and then someone (maybe not her if this is how a closing will go) needs to deliver a precise and short closing.

Yes a juror asked about taking notes right after the opening statement started, so they stopped to hand out notebooks to them. They were already going to be allowed to take notes from witness testimony. The judge said that this morning. I heard all of this on Court TV.

 

[Warwick7]

Very poor delivery of the open statements!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ummmm ummmmm ummmm ummm.
Hope g4 can stay awake!
very empty court room, lots of seats available.

Well that's not what I wanted to hear...

I'm going back to reading...

 

[rescuemom]

After jury was seated and after judge told them they could take notes a juror had to ask for tablet, etc and the proceedings had to be paused while these items were given to jurors.
I totally agree with everything said here about AC, am very surprised and disappointed. What gives? how can the state be so unprepared.
My granddaughter was on her college mock trial team and the students were better than what is going on here today.

 

[sunshineray]

She is definitely coming across as very unprepared IMO

its all the ummmms , IMO. She should just pause with no sound...Is AC a seasoned litigator?

 

[Fat Old Man]

I am surprised, how she can not get people names right. Had CRsr. Living with DR and HR. if the word uhmmmmmmmm can free G4, then he will walk. Totally blew opening. She acted like she had never seen the papers she was reading from.

 

[MTW2011]

Oh the irony in Ms. Canepa saying “I just wanted to clear that up” and then talking about one small detail of the bullet caliber….I get that other counsel likely told her during the break (or she realized herself) she misspoke earlier and needed to correct the record as to not give the defense an inch to say she misrepresented the facts.

But…..those tiny details aren’t “clearing” much up, at least not for me. And saying that so many things are “noteworthy” and also “if that matters to anybody” back to back is just…..it’s all over the place. Sigh.

 

[justtrish]

This is the link for Scioto Valley Guardian that is showing it live. I missed some of the early part of opening so I went back to watch and just before the 1 hour mark she starts detailing how Chris Sr was found. Bobby Jo showed up and the inside dogs were outside (she says this is odd because they have to be let out one at a time) and Chris Sr.'s truck was still there and he's usually got already for work. Bobby Jo went to the house and the door is locked which is odd. The key was above the door in a gutter so the Wagner's likely knew that and locked the door after (my thoughts here not what AC said), but inside there was drag marks from the front to the bedroom and furniture was askew and vice grips were on the floor (usually those are in Chris Sr's pocket)

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[MTW2011]

I am surprised, how she can not get people names right. Had CRsr. Living with DR and HR. if the word uhmmmmmmmm can free G4, then he will walk. Totally blew opening. She acted like she had never seen the papers she was reading from.

And it doesn’t seem it’s limited to just names. She’s started back up correcting several things - small details - that she “misspoke” on earlier. It’s pretty disappointing after all this time.

 

[geevee]

This is one of the most disconcerting opening statements I've ever endured, she had an unexpected extra week to work out the kinks and organize it properly, and the jury gets this - I'd be surprised if any of them can follow it.

"If that matters to anyone"...."I didn't write that down"..."That was incorrect, I didn't mean it"...lordy.

 

[Chelly]

This is one of the most disconcerting opening statements I've ever endured, she had an unexpected extra week to work out the kinks and organize it properly, and the jury gets this - I'd be surprised if any of them can follow it.

"If that matters to anyone"...."I didn't write that down"..."That was incorrect, I didn't mean it"...lordy.

Good to see you @geevee You and I have watched a bunch of trials here. This opening is a trial in itself.