OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #71

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Does this sound right based on information in opening yesterday? Jake admits to shooting Frankie, Hannah Hazel, Dana, Hannah May, Chris Jr. He said Billy shot Kenneth, Chris Sr, and Gary?
yes, also to add JW shot Chris Sr. with George's gun (sks .30 caliber rifle) through the trailer door, hit him in arm, broke a bone, but was not a kill shot.
 
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Does this sound right based on information in opening yesterday? Jake admits to shooting Frankie, Hannah Hazel, Dana, Hannah May, Chris Jr. He said Billy shot Kenneth, Chris Sr, and Gary?

I don't think that information was fully revealed yesterday. They did say that Billy shot Kenneth Rhoden, Chris Sr and Gary Rhoden and that Jake took the gun away from George 4 to shoot through the door at Chris.

Billy went inside Chris's trailer with him. He made some fake thing about asking Chris to ping his cell phone because he lost it. Jake then took the gun away from GW4 outside and shot Chris through the door. Billy then shot Chris several times, killing him and shot Gary, killing him. IIRC, at Chri's Billy used the Ruger.

ETA: Jake's shot through the door from outside wounded Chris. It shattered his arm and embedded wood splinters in his arm, face, etc.
 
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Thank you for all the links everyone. It is good to have several in case one starts failing.
 
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Just so everyone knows, court is in session. Whoever is testifying now has opted out of being filmed. ETA-I think the judge just said that the jury wasn't in the court yet, so I'm confused. Maybe just discussing the witness before hand? Judge is on now. Will see pictures of crime today. Media is not to publish them.
 
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First witness Bobby Jo opting out of audio or video recording
 
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Trial is starting
 
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Just so everyone knows, court is in session. Whoever is testifying now has opted out of being filmed.
Are reporters allowed to tweet?
 
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First witness Bobby Jo opting out of audio or video recording
Just bless her heart. She has been through so much. Maybe today she can finally start having peace. What a horrible morning it will be for her though.
 
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Are reporters allowed to tweet?
Judge has ruled no phones or laptops in court, he has also ruled that people cannot leave courtroom whilst it is in session, so reporters will have to wait for breaks to update us on testimony we do not get to see, they can report what was testified too so I hope we have good note takers
 
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Won't know what is said until after reporters leave courtroom for a break
 
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So frustrating .. this is going to be a very difficult trial to follow with this judges ruling. The video I can understand .. but not being able to hear the audio just doesn't seem right for a public trial.
 
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replaying state opening on my live stream? Anyone else have live court?
 
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Interesting info from yesterday:

Billy really was the "mastermind" as AC had claimed. It wasn't his idea alone to do the killing, but it sounds like he was the one who laid out the plan, told others what to do, equipment to get, etc.

With news of the weapons in concrete 5 gal buckets attached to the "duck box" on the pond, it makes you wonder how much the elder Wagners knew about the murders. The duck box was a gift to grandpappy Wagner.
 
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replaying state opening on my live stream? Anyone else have live court?

It's at the link above, but right now BJ Manley is testifying and she's chosen to have no video or audio. Will come back on when her testimony is done. Assume that also means cross exam.
 
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replaying state opening on my live stream? Anyone else have live court?

yes. its live but Bobby Jo Manley has opted out of both video and audio recording

Watch Live: Pike County Massacre Trial - OH v. George Wagner IV Day Two

Just do not pay attention to the chatroom though. Disrespectful people on there crying about how they cant hear and see and how this is not right....blah blah blah and some in the chat there putting a rumor out there that both Jake and Angela Wagner have also opted out for both audio/video through their attorneys. heck, some of them are mad that they cannot see the death photos etc
 
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I know the defense lawyers HAVE to do their job but can not imagine having the guts to cross examine BJManley.
 
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