OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #74

[rsd1200]

I hope the defense is coming across to the jurors the same way he is to us.

I'm pretty hard nosed (skinned) and he's really not endearing himself nor his client at this point.

 

[justtrish]

Wasn't going to go up to Alaska to visit, all paid for by GWIV, "I didn't want to die" Defense just left that line of questions real quick after that!

Oh yes I am sure it was a one way ticket to Alaska and she is right. She wasn't allowed to see him when they lived down the road, so why the sudden come to Alaska and see him bull?

 

[Chelly]

What is the defense's strategy in cross-examining Tabitha ? I don't understand how he could be scoring points for George. Is he trying to make Tabitha look bad? I wonder what the jury is thinking.

 

[justtrish]

Is it afternoon break? Was the defense done? I had to mute it because I couldn't listen any more. I wonder if AC didn't object as much because she could read the jury and see they weren't buying this line of crap the defense was throwing? If the questions stand then on redirect she can ask more and get better answers.

 

[justtrish]

What is the defense's strategy in cross-examining Tabitha? I don't understand how he could be scoring points for George. Is he trying to make Tabitha look bad? I wonder what the jury is thinking.

I am sure they want to make her sound like the crazy one and downplay the incident where she was running for her life. Make it seem less like she was afraid of them and more like she was having an episode and they were just trying to help her and keep Bulvine safe.

If they can discredit her in that then other things might be questionable.

The good thing is though the conversations from FB are entered into evidence and we have Hannah's words there and we don't have much of her words because her phone was taken and the content of the texts she sent isn't known because of that. I think any way the prosecution can get Hannah's own words in is good.

 

[joe jones]

well, he is a much better attorney than I thought, he completely changed the image of her from almost 2 days of state direct testimony,
It went from they would not let my family visit especially my mum to she enabled a man who she continued to live with to abuse me and my 5 sisters,

he elicited testimony about the times she was unfaithful both pre and post her marriage, she voluntarily gave up custody and was aware visitation was to be supervised at GW home, he obviously was not going to let his son go near her home or her parents,

 

[BeckyF]

Yes she is being abused all over again. Defense just asked her, "so it sounds like you are saying you are the victim".. oh she is in MANY ways. This is disgusting.

I knew this would make me furious! And it did!

 

[rsd1200]

What is the defense's strategy in cross-examining Tabitha ? I don't understand how he could be scoring points for George. Is he trying to make Tabitha look bad? I wonder what the jury is thinking.

If they're like me, they feel sad for T that she had no one to turn to. None of this is making GW4 look good (rather, innocent of his charges though) At All.

 

[rsd1200]

I'm glad I'm not a juror. Signing out for a bit.

 

[sunshineray]

What is the defense's strategy in cross-examining Tabitha ? I don't understand how he could be scoring points for George. Is he trying to make Tabitha look bad? I wonder what the jury is thinking.

Yes he's trying rehabilitate the W's. Hearing HR's words right up until the day before she's found murdered will stick like glue to the jury. AJMO

 

[SuziQ]

Is it afternoon break? Was the defense done? I had to mute it because I couldn't listen any more. I wonder if AC didn't object as much because she could read the jury and see they weren't buying this line of crap the defense was throwing? If the questions stand then on redirect she can ask more and get better answers.

IMO, AC could see that the defense was doing a good job making the Wagner's look like sickos. And highlighted how TC was a child victim of sexual predators. Who cares about TC's stepdad. The Wagner's we're just as sick. I think the jury is coming out of this thinking , now we know what Hannah went through. Moo

 

[Chelly]

well, he is a much better attorney than I thought, he completely changed the image of her from almost 2 days of state direct testimony,
It went from they would not let my family visit especially my mum to she enabled a man who she continued to live with to abuse me and my 5 sisters,

he elicited testimony about the times she was unfaithful both pre and post her marriage, she voluntarily gave up custody and was aware visitation was to be supervised at GW home, he obviously was not going to let his son go near her home or her parents,

All good points. Yes, he got tough and he did his job. If emotions don't get in the way, the jury will see that too.

 

[joe jones]

I think defense attorney did a good job, he elicited testimony about her behavior that does not paint her in the best light, the Xanax questioning was very good, now the jury can consider that it wasn't AW where her daughter got the drug, all a defense can do is offer alternatives, to give the jury pause for thought,

and she isn't a weak and feeble female she gave GW more than he could handle when she bit and grabbed his nuts to make him let her go, and she is very strong to have survived SA and to have somehow maintained a relationship with her mum who enabled the abuse as she testified to

 

[Chelly]

If they're like me, they feel sad for T that she had no one to turn to. None of this is making GW4 look good (rather, innocent of his charges though) At All.

True. His cross examination of T did make AW look really bad though and perhaps that was his focus.

 

[Nanasteele]

What is the defense's strategy in cross-examining Tabitha ? I don't understand how he could be scoring points for George. Is he trying to make Tabitha look bad? I wonder what the jury is thinking.

They are trying to make her look bad. That poor girl had a hard life no matter where she went!

 

[Chelly]

Yes he's trying rehabilitate the W's. Hearing HR's words right up until the day before she's found murdered will stick like glue to the jury. AJMO

Defense attorney's job is not to rehabilitate the W's. His job is to make George appear to be not involved in these crimes.

 

[Nanasteele]

@Tiff23fr - Thanks for commenting. I can't get out of my mind that this sexual abuse among children was allowed and encouraged by their parents.

Her mother and Angela are terrible mothers!

 

[Chelly]

They are trying to make her look bad. That poor girl had a hard life no matter where she went!

Yes he really tried to make her look bad. He all but wiped his feet on her

 

[iamthewalrus]

Sleeping with George at age eleven tells the whole story on the parenting in this area. Holy cow. I was still playing with toys at that age. These girls have no chance coming from this place. I feel horrible for them...

 

[iamthewalrus]

I wish she had ripped his nuts off....