OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #75

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  • #81
2000 lb mj deal for 2000 going in with Billy, but Skid Montgomery found out and had the Rhodens killed

Tackett provided info that Billy was concerned that $20,000 of his money was in a safe in Chris's office and now in custody of the sheriff.
 
  • #82
2000 lb mj deal for $20,000 Chris going in with Billy, but Skid Montgomery found out and had the Rhodens killed - told to BCI

Tackett provided info that Billy was concerned that $20,000 of his money was in a safe in Chris's office and now in custody of the sheriff.
 
  • #83
2000 lb mj deal for $20,000 Chris going in with Billy, but Skid Montgomery found out and had the Rhodens killed - told to BCI

Tackett provided info that Billy was concerned that $20,000 of his money was in a safe in Chris's office and now in custody of the sheriff.

2000 lbs for $800k, which comes out to $400/pound. That's a really low price, except maybe for low grade pot that comes through the tunnels into Arizona.

Agent Sheiderer - Time that activity on BW's phone ceased and time frame of BW destroying the phone because he (BW) kept trying to call CRsr, did not match. (caught in a lie)

BW made no attempts to return CRsr's calls. (caught in a lie)
 
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  • #84
Phone Billy claimed he destroyed when trying to contact Chris after he died actually stopped working right after Billy had Chris Sr call his cell phone because Billy lost it. That was when Chris was killed.
 
  • #85
Am I hearing this right? Some of this has to do with a phone that various members of the Wagners were using in relation to the murders? Maybe a burner phone? Something was going on with a particular phone that made them focus on the Wags.
The point is to show Billy lied in that interview. He never turned his phone over to BCI and he said it was because he destroyed it because he was trying to call Chris even after the homicides and it got upset and broke it or something to that effect. He was lying so he had a reason to not turn the phone over.
 
  • #86
2000 lbs for $800k, which comes out to $400/pound. That's a really low price, except maybe for low grade pot that comes through the tunnels into Arizona.
Not sure, I may have got a zero wrong. He was talking very fast. I have zero idea of how much the wholesale price of MJ is these days.
 
  • #87
Interesting that people knew about this drug deal and gave that info to LE, but Chris's best friend that seemed to know a lot about everything, but nothing specific didn't know about it. RIGHT! lol
 
  • #88
2000 lbs for $800k, which comes out to $400/pound. That's a really low price, except maybe for low grade pot that comes through the tunnels into Arizona.
Yes, that’s about right for weed out of Mexico. Don’t ask how I know, I just do. The thing is though, that price of weed is what is called reg, meaning regular weed with low potency. Why would CRsr. mess with or invest in crap weed when he was growing primo out back?
 
  • #89
So it sounds like BW's phone was turned off, wherever it was. Two calls from CRsr around 11pm went to voicemail. 2-3 seconds duration, straight to voicemail.
And then the phone disappears from the phone records, not used again? Did I get that right?
 
  • #90
Thousands of cartridge shells lying around the driveway of the Peterson Rd farm when Scheiderer went to interview Angie and Jake.

Yikes!

State is having to be meticulous about qualifying their reasons and evidence, how it was gathered to investigate Wagners further. If they don't, defense will try to use that to throw out all the evidence from phones, social media hacking, texts, etc.
 
  • #91
Yes, that’s about right for weed out of Mexico. Don’t ask how I know, I just do. The thing is though, that price of weed is what is called reg, meaning regular weed with low potency. Why would CRsr. mess with or invest in crap weed when he was growing primo out back?
manufacturing shatter

ETA: not necessarily that he was manufacturing it himself; possibly selling to someone who was.
 
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And then the phone disappears from the phone records, not used again? Did I get that right?
Yes! This is interesting because according to Billy he was blowing Chris's phone up. The defense was trying hard to suggest maybe Billy had a different phone you know because Chris Sr had 2 different phones.
 
  • #93
2000 lb mj deal for $20,000 Chris going in with Billy, but Skid Montgomery found out and had the Rhodens killed - told to BCI

Tackett provided info that Billy was concerned that $20,000 of his money was in a safe in Chris's office and now in custody of the sheriff.

2000 lbs for $800k, which comes out to $400/pound. <modsnip: off topic>
 
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  • #94
Jake asked about Brently, if he possibly saw anything and if he was questioned by LE...just so evil:mad:
 
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Yes, that’s about right for weed out of Mexico. Don’t ask how I know, I just do. The thing is though, that price of weed is what is called reg, meaning regular weed with low potency. Why would CRsr. mess with or invest in crap weed when he was growing primo out back?
Billy's crazy talk about Chris' drug deals were lies to distract attention away from Wagners, of course, i.e. blame the cartel and Mexico and gun-running and BTW, blame the Manleys as well.
 
  • #96
Oh wow! Jake's answer to the question "what do you think the punishment for someone committing this crime should be?"

Jake's reply "depends on if it was a trigger person or not"
 
  • #97
And then the phone disappears from the phone records, not used again? Did I get that right?

Yes, but the time frame Billy gave and phone records don't match.
 
  • #98
Oh ya'll listen up now! They are getting into interesting text messages from George to Billy!
 
  • #99
Finally, we have GW evidence
 
  • #100
Oh ya'll listen up now! They are getting into interesting text messages from George to Billy!

Here it comes! Ears up!

Take a good look at the printout of the texts, look at texts not highlighted. "Don't text back here. Just text back to my phone, going back outside" This is way on down the list of the highlighted text about them having company.

Defense objection on list of guns on a phone, overruled, new objection, sidebar.
 
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