OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #82

[RAISINISBACK]

Nash borned in oklahoma city doesnt know hay from straw. City slicker gotta whine about hay because he cant defend the indefensible. Haaha. What a joke! Jmo

Hey!!! As someone on here once said "if you are not one, then just don't."

JMO

 

[gizmobtj]

You want to know what a slap in the face it was? Angie gets time off for good behavior, teaching crafts, tutoring inmates that are illiterate, working in other areas. That 30 years could turn into 15 in a heartbeat. On top of that she is not charged with a violent crime. She did not use a firearm in connection with a crime. So if the prisons are overcrowded Angel mommy is out of there and free as a bird in a few years. And she doesn't even have to sleep with Billy to do it.

Now THAT is a slap in the face.

JMO

I think the max she can get off is 4.1 years for good behavior - 56 days per year for good behavior. She can get 90 days more for an academic programs and if she volunteers every day for 25 years, she could get 300 more days. So, you are taking, max, 5 years or so off.

Rule 5120-2-06 - Ohio Administrative Code | Ohio Laws

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Rule 5120-2-05 - Ohio Administrative Code | Ohio Laws

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[gizmobtj]

In the tatt world, you can roll with it, you can take a hit and get back up. The five is that you have no fear. take chances. He could've just told the guy he liked the one hanging one the wall and went with it but if I remember right, CN was saying that G4 would bust through mud on his 4wheelers and was more of a risk taker. So, there's that.

Oh, note the aces on the side. Power cards. Wants it, or feels he has it. Looks to be four high but I can't see too well. Thanks to my dog.

Thanks! My thought was either (a) the skull represented George and the cards represented AW, JW ans BW or (b) the skull represented the killing and the cards represented GW, BW and JW; that the 8-ball was the killed Rhodens and Hannah Giley.

Even if it's innocuous, it is so not a good look after 8 people you know get killed.

 

[Betty P]

Yes, it sounds like you think she blames Angie and Angie nagging Billy to do something and so forth. And Angie is the mom, sopose to take care of Fred's grandsons, not encourage them to go out and commit mass murders while she sits home and says she doesn't know what happened at the crime scenes. Bull. She would have asked them to tell her every single detail to make sure they covered their tracks.

Yup. I bet Fred blames Angie. No wonder Angie has no money for phone calls. Fred sure as heck won't fund her jail account. How I see it.

Maybe AW's confession and court testimony is also a strike back at her MIL. A bit of revenge against an MIL who she felt treated her as little more than a brood mare?

 

[Betty P]

I think the max she can get off is 4.1 years for good behavior - 56 days per year for good behavior. She can get 90 days more for an academic programs and if she volunteers every day for 25 years, she could get 300 more days. So, you are taking, max, 5 years or so off.

Rule 5120-2-06 - Ohio Administrative Code | Ohio Laws

codes.ohio.gov

Rule 5120-2-05 - Ohio Administrative Code | Ohio Laws

codes.ohio.gov

Pretty sure her plea agreement requires that she serve all 30 yrs. No time off for good behavior, etc.

 

[gizmobtj]

Pretty sure her plea agreement requires that she serve all 30 yrs. No time off for good behavior, etc.

Ahhhh

 

[joe jones]

You, and only you... should have been on the defense team. At least you would give the jury a little to think over.

Yeah, I would be useful, but it's a long way from here to Ohio.

JMO

even longer for me but I would have given them some pointers

 

[pcrum12]

I was hoping we would get to see the proceedings this morning at 8 but I can't find a live feed to it.

 

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I was hoping we would get to see the proceedings this morning at 8 but I can't find a live feed to it.

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That feed doesn't provide caption. I can't find the L&C link. Edited: Found it!

 

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Court resumes at 9:30.

 

[pcrum12]

Court resumes at 9:30.

I found live link and they did show the continued hearing on the wiretaps

 

[Niner]

I found live link and they did show the continued hearing on the wiretaps

and will they all be let in?

 

[Betty P]

I have to take off, will check in later.

 

[Niner]

Going to gather some of James' tweets...

@arielilane !!

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/jamespilcher

An early good morning from Pike Co. murder trial of George Wagner IV. First up - hearing on the final 7-8 wiretap recordings on which there is still dispute. Jury reports at 9:30 then we expect BCI's Julia Eveslage to introduce wiretaps to close out prosecutions case

Judge Deering on bench - there were 8 that were under dispute and maybe needed more context. Another needed to be edited just to show George knew they were being recorded.

One of them the prosecution agrees to play it all - it is 21 minutes long.

Another recording in truck - this one about George being upset Jake's daughter is calling Beth Ann Mommy - how it affects his son. Canepa says nothing is audible except that and nothing else provides context.

George says "I have to go home and confront him with the cold-hearted truth" - he has to tell his son that Angela is not his mommy as he believes.

In that same recording, George says Jake will rat them out he's the biggest rat of them all and that he should go to BCI and rat them out. Canepa says defense can't tell what else is on that recording because it's inaudible.

Prosecution withdraw the one about Olympics - referring to possible deer poaching. And another one withdrawn because it's short. They are playing another one in its entirety.

Defense wants full 9 minutes of next recording to be played. Canepa says it doesn't provide context - but glad to add and doesn't have a problem.

Next one Canepa says she was unable to listen to full call last night to argue it at this point.

One that is 32 minutes includes conversation about grandfather's headstone and people they met at R&L Carriers. Canepa says they've isolated the relevant part. Defense is saying they are only using 37 seconds and jury should be told these are snippets.

Last one is 22 minutes - prosecution says most not relevant. The segment they want to play is 2.5 minutes - begins 5 minutes into recording. This is one about "he would rat out anybody" - then Jake talks about how much he spent on toys for both kids. Objection withdrawn

That leaves just one for Canepa to review. Prosecution withdrawing 2 recordings. Some they will play it all. And defense withdraws objection on a few. Deering is allowing one snippet to be played where George and Jake say they know they're being listened to

Deering is going to instruct jury about transcripts as listening aids - they are not evidence.

Deering doesn't want them to go back to jury room for deliberation. They need to listen to tape not refer to transcripts.

That means at this point, 33 of the original 49 recordings/texts will be played or shown, with one still up for debate with the two that were withdrawn by prosecution this morning. There were 14 sustained objections yesterday.

 

[Niner]

editing my tweets - I see arielilane just posted them..

I will stay out of the way!

 

[pcrum12]

and will they all be let in?

33 of the original 49 recordings/texts will be played or shown, with one still up for debate with the two that were withdrawn by prosecution this morning. There were 14 sustained objections yesterday.

 

[arielilane]

editing my tweets - I see arielilane just posted them..

I will stay out of the way!

Good morning Niner, I will be out of WS office in the am tomorrow, and will need you to cover tweets for me, please? Return around 2:00ish pm ET.