OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#37

[almond]

AT @ 2:25, they introduce attys, state both have DP certs., and the judge says "they've been appointed by the court, to represent the defendant in this case..." loosely quoting.

GW Court Arraignment

He seems a bit hard of hearing? Love the clanking of the chains when he walks.

 

[almond]

Yes. I was very impressed with it. Maybe she wants to be seen under a good light with a good character. It would explain why she wore her nicest blouse, the white blouse, to the 4 hearings.

That cross necklace, I believe, is from the Virgins, Saints, and Angels jewelers. High-end luxury item.

 

[Betty P]

AT @ 2:25, they introduce attys, state both have DP certs., and the judge says "they've been appointed by the court, to represent the defendant in this case..." loosely quoting.

GW3 Court Arraignment, GW3's attys are Mark Collins and Thomas Hayes. Collins is lead council.

FW's atty. is James Owen. @ around :30 seconds. He does not say appointed by the court for FW's atty.

Thanks, RSD, I was just searching You Tube for the full video from today. You just saved me some work.

 

[plumloco]

THAT has me puzzled. Why did they stand when they did??

Puzzling to me too!

 

[rsd1200]

That cross necklace, I believe, is from the Virgins, Saints, and Angels jewelers. High-end luxury item.

Her clothing, makeup, and hair, are all very low key.

 

[Gracie55]

That cross necklace, I believe, is from the Virgins, Saints, and Angels jewelers. High-end luxury item.

She nervously fiddled with that necklace. Maybe she was praying.

 

[pepper 34]

She nervously fiddled with that necklace. Maybe she was praying.

I think it must very disconcerting and anxiety provoking for some people to see that camera pan over, come to a stop and then the zoom lens adjustment take place. It would make me very uncomfortable.

 

[rsd1200]

She nervously fiddled with that necklace. Maybe she was praying.

BBM
For strength to get through this trial most likely.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

BBM
For strength to get through this trial most likely.

Or that they come back with a guilty verdict.

 

[Gracie55]

I think it must very disconcerting and anxiety provoking for some people to see that camera pan over, come to a stop and then the zoom lens adjustment take place. It would make me very uncomfortable.

The brunette next to her showed nervous hair smoothing activity. I was embarrassed for her (almost). Interesting how they seemed to forget the camera saw them.

 

[Betty P]

The brunette next to her showed nervous hair smoothing activity. I was embarrassed for her (almost). Interesting how they seemed to forget the camera saw them.

I noticed the brunette. Is she a reporter? Attorney? Maybe the Wags have a reporter working with them on special assignment to tell their "inside story" as they go through the trial?

 

[Puzzles8]

The Tale of Al Capone

Al Capone was a notorious Chicago mobster in the 1920’s. He was involved in murder, racketeering, illegal gambling, prostitution, etc. Eliot Ness tried for years to convict him of his crimes, without success. Who was finally able to send Capone to jail? The IRS. In 1927 a law was passed making the “profits” from illegal operations taxable. Capone was finally convicted and sent to jail in 1931 on tax evasion.

Illegal profits are often in the form of cash. If you have a lot of cash you need to either use it, hide it in a bag or launder it through a business or charity. FW appeared to have quite a few LLC’s and Non-profits set up.
I think that a sizable amount of cash must have been found during the execution of search warrants (for murder) on their properties. This opened the door for LE to request new and broader warrants to search or surveil locations relating to the evidence of tax evasion. The final pieces of evidence or surveillance they needed to charge and likely convict the Wag’s on murder charges might have been found during the tax related searches/surveillance. Just my speculation and opinions!

Though FW may think she has dodged the murder bullet now (bad pun), the IRS will make sure she is left penniless soon……

Curious to know more about FW’s Crystal Springs nursing facility. I find it odd that there were only four to five patients. Why did she initially get involved in that facility? Clearly it was personally profitable to FW in salary and lease payments, but very out of line with her other businesses & interests. I also find it odd that she requested a bond exception so that she could visit the facility. Had that property been searched before?

Curious to know more about FW’s “church”. A church could easily explain large cash deposits. I recall that when LE searched FW’s “church”, she complained records were taken.

Curious to know the reputations of FW’s accountants/tax accountants and lawyers that her empire used.

Curious to know how GWW IV got custody of his son B. If they were willing to murder to get custody of SW, I can’t imagine what they might have done to get custody of BW.

Curious why BW was not named GGW V. Looked the name B up on Urban Dictionary. Very interesting…

Curious to know what the other tattoos on III’s arm mean. I’m scared to ask there are any more tattoos on his body. Noticed they tried to cover his arm today.

Curious to learn why “Bob”? – eldest brother, cut ties with the family business and how long ago.

Oh, so many more questions!

New member, probably should have made my username CuriousOne!

 

[almond]

BBM
For strength to get through this trial most likely.

Or to show that she's a Christian? Pretty necklace anyway.

 

[almond]

I noticed the brunette. Is she a reporter? Attorney? Maybe the Wags have a reporter working with them on special assignment to tell their "inside story" as they go through the trial?

I noticed her at Angela's hearing also. She's not taking notes, is she?

 

[pepper 34]

Or that they come back with a guilty verdict.

That could certainly make a big difference for her in her life. No denying that...

 

[Gracie55]

I noticed the brunette. Is she a reporter? Attorney? Maybe the Wags have a reporter working with them on special assignment to tell their "inside story" as they go through the trial?

I haven't figured out either who she is. I wonder what will come out as this unfolds.

 

[IQuestion]

She had to adjust her blouse so the cross was showing better when she saw the camera pointing at her...I hope it means more to her than her mother and brother...

No cross worn at AW's hearing? And yes, a concerted effort, to make sure it was seen in the close up for BGIII's hearing, though. In My Opinion. ps (photo from AW's hearing.)

We have seen close ups of family members and even the writing on T-shirts worn, and comments made about the items different individuals are wearing, tattoos etc. so I don't think making a comment about jewelry worn is OT.

 

[IQuestion]

She had to adjust her blouse so the cross was showing better when she saw the camera pointing at her...I hope it means more to her than her mother and brother...

No cross worn at AW's hearing? And yes, a concerted effort, to make sure it was seen in the close up for BGIII's hearing, though. In My Opinion. ps (photo from AW's hearing.)View attachment 158393

 

[pepper 34]

BW seems very nervous and at one point becomes almost agitated, whispering to his attorney. I am going to watch it again later and try to determine what the judge was saying when he gets agitated.

JMO

I noticed that, too. I watched the video now available and all that fiddling about in his chair done by BW3 seems to take place when the "charges repetitions" are addressing Frankie and Hannah G's murders. However, I watched BW3 closely and he doesn't seem to be listening to or being affected by a word the judge is saying at that point. His attorney seems to be explaining something to him. Other people might see it differently and I'd be interested if they do.
One problem is that the camera person is filming those in the benches when whatever is happening for BW3 begins. We don't see him from the beginning of whatever seems to be bothering him, imo.
(And he may not be bothered because he seems to have a sort of naturally grumpy face so it's hard to gauge what he might be feeling.)

 

[rsd1200]

The Tale of Al Capone

Al Capone was a notorious Chicago mobster in the 1920’s. He was involved in murder, racketeering, illegal gambling, prostitution, etc. Eliot Ness tried for years to convict him of his crimes, without success. Who was finally able to send Capone to jail? The IRS. In 1927 a law was passed making the “profits” from illegal operations taxable. Capone was finally convicted and sent to jail in 1931 on tax evasion.

Illegal profits are often in the form of cash. If you have a lot of cash you need to either use it, hide it in a bag or launder it through a business or charity. FW appeared to have quite a few LLC’s and Non-profits set up.
I think that a sizable amount of cash must have been found during the execution of search warrants (for murder) on their properties. This opened the door for LE to request new and broader warrants to search or surveil locations relating to the evidence of tax evasion. The final pieces of evidence or surveillance they needed to charge and likely convict the Wag’s on murder charges might have been found during the tax related searches/surveillance. Just my speculation and opinions!

Though FW may think she has dodged the murder bullet now (bad pun), the IRS will make sure she is left penniless soon……

Curious to know more about FW’s Crystal Springs nursing facility. I find it odd that there were only four to five patients. Why did she initially get involved in that facility? Clearly it was personally profitable to FW in salary and lease payments, but very out of line with her other businesses & interests. I also find it odd that she requested a bond exception so that she could visit the facility. Had that property been searched before?

Curious to know more about FW’s “church”. A church could easily explain large cash deposits. I recall that when LE searched FW’s “church”, she complained records were taken.

Curious to know the reputations of FW’s accountants/tax accountants and lawyers that her empire used.

Curious to know how GWW IV got custody of his son B. If they were willing to murder to get custody of SW, I can’t imagine what they might have done to get custody of BW.

Curious why BW was not named GGW V. Looked the name B up on Urban Dictionary. Very interesting…

Curious to know what the other tattoos on III’s arm mean. I’m scared to ask there are any more tattoos on his body. Noticed they tried to cover his arm today.

Curious to learn why “Bob”? – eldest brother, cut ties with the family business and how long ago.

Oh, so many more questions!

New member, probably should have made my username CuriousOne!

Welcome, Puzzle8.

I have a theory on the care facility. Can't broach that, yet, as I've very little proof.

I too looked up Bs name. Searched high and low. The definition and history of that name, in the UD, is very interesting, to say the least. What I found more interesting, is that 2-3 weeks prior to his birth, his mother called him by a different name.

Tried to cover it, or, it was cold in lock-up. Standard issue white thermal shirt.

I am very curious about "Bob". Seems he's the only one that left home.