OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[RAISINISBACK]

TY, NLM!!!

Do they have TV in jail and are the inmates allowed to watch it?

 

[Trudie]

That's why the commissary is such a big thing. A 10¢ Ramen Noodle goes for around $1.00!

AW must have a well padded commie fund, she has not lost an ounce, imo. I think after a week, I’d look like a near death anorexic. I simply could not eat green bologna, food items touched & stored in less than hygienic manner, etc. literally, I would be ill. Violently ill.

 

[Trudie]

That's why the commissary is such a big thing. A 10¢ Ramen Noodle goes for around $1.00!

She must sit in the day room watching the noon news hoping to hear any tidbit regarding her family, devouring her commie snacks.

 

[Myland]

I seen two fight verified right after the murders. They were the derby guy and the “joy riders”. Can anyone post a link of other verified fights? Jmo

 

[Betty P]

Same clothes every time. That has to be some kind of uniform she wears at work. I cannot believe she does not have any other clothes. And that cannot be her Sunday go to meeting clothes. Or maybe it is. I don't know. Poor Robin. I think her life has been turned upside down. I do hope the best for her.

Jmo

She did seem really stressed out today. Hopefully, her mother's attorney is discussing the details of the case with her. Assume he is since she lives with Fred W. Surely, he's given them an idea of what's going on, what to expect. Denial can be persistent, though, if she's lived a sheltered life and isn't familiar with the criminal justice system. Could be that her mom is also filling her up with a lot of false optimism, too.

But surely she has some idea of what to anticipate when she goes to these hearings. Maybe her mom is putting a lot of pressure on her or perhaps her mom's attorney isn't giving them enough information.

 

[NLM1234]

Do they have TV in jail and are the inmates allowed to watch it?

OMG. You are a genius. Messages could be transmitted via clothing. Wow! Never would have put that together. I wonder if prisoners could press the pause button. IDK.

 

[rsd1200]

Delete.

 

[Trudie]

If she is close to her mom, (and FW), then that really hurt! I don't think any of them have ever really been in the inside of jail, as in staying to serve time, so I'd say they're still in a bit of shock. Their other family, can talk to them and correspond with them, though. However, one thing that I've always noticed, it's the Mom's who hang in there the longest, when everyone else has life to live, and things to do, Moms will make the time. AW nor GW3, nor either of the boys, can talk to their mothers.

Really, the phone no contact order is not enforceable, IMO.
AW can call RW, RW puts her phone on speaker, if FW, RN or any person gathered around wishes, they jot down a question, RW asks AW.
And, AW can tell RW “tell mom I love her” or other things to pass on, right?

 

[Loomis124]

We really didn’t learn much today, did we?
Other than AW isn’t heeding the advice of her attorney.
I think the no communication thing is what made her on the verge of tears.

Also, I think she suddenly realized how far away March is and she hated going back to jail...the sound of a door locking behind her, again. Freedom is something we can't know the true meaning of until we no longer have it. JMO

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

We might see photos of the crime scene, but we won't see unredacted copies of the final autopsy reports. The Ohio Supreme Court ruled against that.

I am well aware of every piece of public info regarding this case. They ruled against repealing them as part of the ongoing investigation. Once these cases go to trial the investigations are complete.

 

[IceIce9]

Thank you. This was the best audio, for me.
AW was on the verge of tears, near the end. Can her atty not position his chair elsewhere. Hate when they block the defendant.

Where is your smirk now, Angela?

I don’t feel sorry for any of the Ws, not one bit.

My sympathies lie with the murder victims and their family members who will never have contact with them again.

The Ws spared the babies but CRjr was just a child too. HR and HHG were young adults, moms themselves. So no tears shed for Angela because she can’t have contact with her mother.

 

[Betty P]

There were 2 fights that very well could have been between Chris and Billy but we don't know for sure. Jake told a reporter that he did not kick in H R's door so something was going on. (I will try to find it).

As to the 2 fights:
DeWine said "investigators have reconstructed every aspect of the victim's lives."

In the same article Sheriff Reader says "Some of the family was involved in 2 fights not reported to police before the murders. "

Sheriff: Killers in Pike County may be locals

Thanks. At this point we can only speculate. He could also have been referring to at least one of the incidents being Chris Jr's fight with the woman over road rage.

Interesting to go back and read these old interviews. More from the article

"Someone...watching this today knows something that will be helpful to us."

"It wasn't because they had a couple of little indoor grows. It wasn't because there was just a couple of cars on the property that may have been stolen," Reader said. "It's much bigger than that."

Who did they think knew something about the murders who wasn't involved? Wagners weren't talking to anyone outside their family, JMO. Or was that just a rhetorical statement trying to get more tips?

Reader also minimizes the relevance of the MJ grows and cars. This interview was just 6 months after the murders, so it was unlikely JMO that they were focused on the Wagners. They had only questioned JW once at that point.

 

[rsd1200]

Ditto. But they do transport the condemned to the out of county facility & get them to court, etc.

BBM
Some do, some don't. We are the only state that seems to have them just sit around, and draw a salary, when there is no jail. They've recently started having the LEOs do transports, in some counties w/o jails. The job is an elected position so it just gets voted in, and with a salary. They were paid, collectively, nearly $1.5 mil in 2015. I kid you not.

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

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The writing on RW's left leg appears to be: March 20th 1/2 day no contact. The 1/2 day is in reference to the judge indicating that it may take a half day to get through the this portion of the pre-trial.

I was able to read it live while they were showing her. Not sure why she would be writing all that down when she can just come here or re watch the video online

 

[rsd1200]

Do they have TV in jail and are the inmates allowed to watch it?

Oh yeah! That's a privilege! Don't think her cell sisters weren't watching too!

 

[Trudie]

I was able to read it live while they were showing her. Not sure why she would be writing all that down when she can just come here or re watch the video online

I thought maybe so she could get on her phone as soon as she got to her car. But, who would she call that did not watch live? Maybe she wanted to call a family atty, ask his opinion. Rather than referring to her notes, she could refer to her leg?
You have good vision if you captured it in real time. Lucky you!

 

[Betty P]

OMG. You are a genius. Messages could be transmitted via clothing. Wow! Never would have put that together. I wonder if prisoners could press the pause button. IDK.

Something tells me RW may not be writing on her trousers in the courtroom again.

Actually, though, she wasn't writing down anything the perps wouldn't have learned if they were allowed to watch the hearing themselves. But you never know. I've always thought her "very earnest and loving" presence in all the hearings, along with her crucifix necklace was a message to all the W's to stick together and not turn on each other. Family unity, love of God, etc. So I wouldn't put it past her to come up with the idea of writing things on her trousers in view of the camera.

 

[rsd1200]

AW must have a well padded commie fund, she has not lost an ounce, imo. I think after a week, I’d look like a near death anorexic. I simply could not eat green bologna, food items touched & stored in less than hygienic manner, etc. literally, I would be ill. Violently ill.

Idk, they don't get a lot of exercise in there either. She went in pretty well padded. No exercise can take a while for the pounds to start shedding. I'd say the family is probably putting a bit on her commissary though. Cheeto's, Doritos, Chocolate Chip Cookies, Salami Stix, all high in calories except for the handy stand-by, Ramen's! If convicted, she'll learn to cook with Ramen's. I'm sure there's preservatives and chemicals in all those things, unlike Defiance Farm Foods, but it's either that, dog food, or starve.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I seen two fight verified right after the murders. They were the derby guy and the “joy riders”. Can anyone post a link of other verified fights? Jmo

It didn't say which fights they were that I read.

 

[rsd1200]

She must sit in the day room watching the noon news hoping to hear any tidbit regarding her family, devouring her commie snacks.

I bet you're about right. She's probably not allowed much movement (as in having a job) so eating, sleeping, t.v., and books, are probably her only comfort right now.