OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[Betty P]

There is no playbook on how to act accordingly in these circumstances. Im not saying you are wrong, but you shouldn't condemn or criticize her actions. The only thing she is guilty of is being loyal to her fam. JMO,MOO

My apologies, but I'm not criticizing her. Just making observations. I do have some sympathy for her in that her life has been turned upside down, changed forever.

Most of my sympathy and concern is with the families of the victims, especially the little children growing up as orphans or without a parent. The hardships they've faced and continue to face. They're also having to take off time to attend these hearings, are also trying to put their lives back together, paying expensive legal bills, missing work, for having to defend themselves against false accusations by LE, etc. Little kids losing their homes and parents, having to start all over again, some in state custody. Having nightmares for the rest of their lives after having witnessed their parent's gory, brutal deaths.

JMO.

This will probably be the last time I discuss this. Thinking about defending the killers creates a negative emotions for me. Better to focus on seeing that the victims and their families get justice.

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

My apologies, but I'm not criticizing her. Just making observations. I do have some sympathy for her in that her life has been turned upside down, changed forever.

Most of my sympathy and concern is with the families of the victims, especially the little children growing up as orphans or without a parent. The hardships they've faced and continue to face. They're also having to take off time to attend these hearings, are also trying to put their lives back together, paying expensive legal bills, missing work, for having to defend themselves against false accusations by LE, etc. Little kids losing their homes and parents, having to start all over again, some in state custody. Having nightmares for the rest of their lives after having witnessed their parent's gory, brutal deaths.

JMO.

This will probably be the last time I discuss this. Thinking about defending the killers creates a negative emotions for me. Better to focus on seeing that the victims and their families get justice.

No problem, I'm sorry if I came off in the wrong manner. You are my favorite/most informative poster on this thread. I apologize

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

Wow. Only three of us would choose to live.

I would rather face the death penalty and get it over w/ instead of sitting in a cell basically in solitary for the rest of my existence.

 

[Trudie]

Thus far, it seems to me:

JW is unphased. I assume his attorney advised him to get his hair cut & he chose otherwise. Iirc, he smiled in court & appeared well rested. He also seemed to enjoy being the center of attention, imo.

AW won’t acquiesce to her legal teams wishes, evidently.
Perhaps she’s still in “mom” mode, idk. She looked awful, imo & seemed fragile. Moo

G4 seemed pissed, imo. He did have a fresh hair cut, likely on the advice of his attorney & did dress appropriately, imo. In fact, he was over dressed, imo, for a quick hearing.
But, he made the effort ( RW shopped for him, imo).
He seemed “lazy” to me. Almost as if he exists in a state of ennui.

Jail is taking a toll on them, imo. And, we’ve only just begun,.....


All moo

 

[Betty P]

Oh I’m sure he will be there, with his wife.
Jmo
Do you think he’s estranged from her?
I guess this must be taken as a rumor, like earlier posts regarding a potential inheritance, blah blah....but I know someone that lives very close to the unincarcerated son, he and his family enjoy a very close relationship with FW & RW. Based on what I’ve heard, I can easily speculate things are wonderful.

Sorry, hate to be the killjoy, but we can't post rumors at WS. We're all following these cases closely and would hate to see the thread shut down. TIA

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[Trudie]

Sorry, hate to be the killjoy, but we can't post rumors at WS. We're all following these cases closely and would hate to see the thread shut down. TIA

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Lol, earlier, there was reference to ”rumor”, so I thought if we stated it as such we could. I edited. Ty

 

[Trudie]

I wonder when thec4 will begin to have weekly hearings.
Seems like so much ground to cover.
Moo

 

[rsd1200]

Wow. Only three of us would choose to live.

I could not live in a prison.

 

[Niner]

I'm just going to post who is in hearings today, otherwise it gets a bit long...

Thursday, January 10th:
*Hearings see below (@ am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (38). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) –
*Pretrial & Motions Hearing (@ 10am ET) - Only for *Fredericka Carol Wagner (76) (Paternal grandmother) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18) , charged & arraigned (11/15/18) with 1 count of perjury & 1 count of obstruction of justice. Plead not guilty. $100K Surety bond.
Wagner was released from the Pike County Jail Thursday (11/15/18) night on a $100,000 surety bond. To be fingerprinted at Pike Co Sheriff's office. To have no contact with any members of victims' family. Will be under electronically monitored house arrest. Should not leave her premises except for consulting with her lawyer, medical appointments, however she must document in advance any reason to leave which must be approved. Must notify pre-trial services officer when she leaves. May leave for court hearing. Not to use alcohol or controlled substances, she may take prescriptions prescribed by licensed physician.
Had Arraignment hearing on 11/15.
On Tuesday (11/27/18), Fredricka Wagner's attorney, James Owen, filed a motion to modify her bond "to allow her to leave her residence during normal work hours to travel to her place of employment." Which will be heard on 1/10/19.
12/20/18 Update: Pretrial & Motions hearing on 1/10/19.
*Pretrial Hearing (@ 2:30pm ET) - Only for *Rita Jo Newcomb (65) (Maternal grandmother) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged & arraigned (11/15/18) with 3 counts forgery, 1 count obstructing justice & 1 count perjury. Plead not guilty. $50K Surety bond.
DA alleges Newcomb lied to the Grand Jury & forged custody papers before the murders.
To place her under electronic monitor/house arrest. RN gives her mother's address. Court sets monetary bond at $50,000, will permit cash surety or 10% deposit. Will be under electronically monitored house arrest at her mother’s in South Webster, Ohio. To be put into Pre-Trial Services program. Can leave for medical emergencies, lawyer appointments, medical appointments. Must clear everything with Pre-Trial Services officer. Must keep Pre-Trial Services officer advised of her current address. With exception of medications prescribed by licensed physician for her, not to consume alcohol or controlled substances.
Had Arraignment hearing on 11/15. 11/20/18: Posted bond, released from jail. Pretrial hearing set for 1/10.

 

[sjs1964]

I haven't posted in a very long time, but have been following along from the beginning. In my opinion, I believe people will be shocked to one day discover details that little BR and SW will remember. (My now 16 yr. old remembers things from when he was 2-3 yrs. old.)
I truthfully hope that they all plead to LWOP, and that the Prosecution and families accept the plea. SW has already endured far more in her life than most of us can even imagine. Why make her have to go through appeal after appeal well into adulthood? If it goes to trial we know that will be a few years down the road. With DP on the table, we know there will be numerous appeals for each of the 4W. It makes no sense to me to peel open that wound over and over for SW.
She may never get closure or be able to truly heal from the brutality inflicted by her father, uncle and grandparents, but to drag out the finality of it with appeals seems just as cruel to me.

This is all JMO

 

[sjs1964]

I haven't posted in a very long time, but have been following along from the beginning. In my opinion, I believe people will be shocked to one day discover details that little BR and SW will remember. (My now 16 yr. old remembers things from when he was 2-3 yrs. old.)
I truthfully hope that they all plead to LWOP, and that the Prosecution and families accept the plea. SW has already endured far more in her life than most of us can even imagine. Why make her have to go through appeal after appeal well into adulthood? If it goes to trial we know that will be a few years down the road. With DP on the table, we know there will be numerous appeals for each of the 4W. It makes no sense to me to peel open that wound over and over for SW.
She may never get closure or be able to truly heal from the brutality inflicted by her father, uncle and grandparents, but to drag out the finality of it with appeals seems just as cruel to me.

This is all JMO

I might also add that I hope that her Great grandparents and great aunts and uncles all consider the lingering affects on her and the other children if they face the decision to agree for a plea to be accepted.

IMO

 

[Jayejayehilltop]

Can you share where you saw her pic? The live stream I was watching today of GWIV's hearing didn't show her. Thanks[/QUOTE

Can you share where you saw her pic? The live stream I was watching today of GWIV's hearing didn't show her. Thanks

Pike Co. suspect can have no contact with co-defendants

I hope this link copied ok. If it was RW it was before GWIV was brought in, just sitting alone behind where the defendant would be sitting

 

[Niner]

Do you all think we should get a new thread? 1872 posts....

 

[Jayejayehilltop]

Pike Co. suspect can have no contact with co-defendants

I hope this link copied ok. If it was RW it was before GWIV was brought in, just sitting alone behind where the defendant would be sitting

No i see the link did not copy ok. I will try again it came from page 89, a link someone posted for WOCP,

Can you share where you saw her pic? The live stream I was watching today of GWIV's hearing didn't show her. Thanks

It was a link from page 89, for WCPO.COM, someone else shared, i will go back and find and copy the link

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

What time is each pre trial today? Tysm

 

[Julia966]

IMO: His hands said he was nervous but his facial expressions appeared the complete opposite to me. They may be innocent but I don't have nothing kind to say about the whole lot.

Both of those boys have a permanent expression of arrogance and contempt on their faces, IMO. We'll see if that changes over the course of their time in jail and the trials.

 

[Tricia]

Yes, it is time for a new thread. Please continue here

 

[Tricia]

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