OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[ohioexpat63]

IMO: His hands said he was nervous but his facial expressions appeared the complete opposite to me. They may be innocent but I don't have nothing kind to say about the whole lot.

 

[rsd1200]

I think initial contact was made within 24 hours. They had to verify S was safe, not missing, etc. not a formal interview, but a “knock knock, how ya doin, how is baby S, gee you got any idea who massacred her family”. Hope that first contact was captured on video cam. Did they act startled upon hearing the news? Every interaction between the W’s does not have to documented., IMO. If called to the station, that is a formal on the record interview. In P county, local LE probably bumped into
People they'd interviewed all the time, maybe chatting for a sec.
anyone know if GJ meets at the courthouse in P county? In my county, they do not. They meet at hotels or an office suite/banquet facility. It’s safer. If not & I wanted to know the identity of a GJ or a witness, I could sit on a bench outside the CH in the parking lot & watch comings and goings.

BBM
Everyone reacts differently, as we can tell by comparing DS', BJM's, and JM's reactions, but, I have wondered who was the first to contact JW, and what his reaction was like. What his parent's and brother's reactions were like. My guess is that a R family member called them first. However, I'd think, that under the circumstances, that LE would want a LEO to lay their eyes on S.

 

[Loomis124]

Try this link. I only saw her in the footage at the beginning of the tape - before the hearing started. I'm sure she was there for the hearing as well, but the camera never panned that far right.
George Wagner IV appears in court for pretrial hearing

Thank you so much.

 

[rsd1200]

At this stage of the game their attire is irrelevant, imo.
What dif does it make if one can don their preferred jeans if they are still chained?

To the viewers, their potential jury pool. Those folks with a t.v. on, it makes them blend in, look more normal. You see a big orange blob go across the screen you're more likely to take note, stop, and watch. They want the potential jury pool to be as unbiased as possible. Do not pay attention to this, nothing to see here. Hopefully a lot of details fade into the background and don't distract them.

 

[Loomis124]

IMO: His hands said he was nervous but his facial expressions appeared the complete opposite to me. They may be innocent but I don't have nothing kind to say about the whole lot.

I agree. Thank you.

 

[rsd1200]

He looked very angry IMO, as usual, and his attorneys still haven't taught him good manners. He still doesn't address the Judge as "Your Honor," and even butted in with his answers before the Judge finished the questions. Whoa...big mistake...sounded like his Daddy. JMO

He looked very disgruntled, and I noted the lack of disrespect for the judge. I think he'd be the one to keep your eye on in a crowd.

 

[Trudie]

Thanks, Trudie. I did, but didn't see RW.

My pleasure. I found several videos from news stations. If you search again, look specifically for those, maybe.
Or see Post 1819

 

[Trudie]

He looked very disgruntled, and I noted the lack of disrespect for the judge. I think he'd be the one to keep your eye on in a crowd.

Ita! I actually thought he was chewing gum!

 

[Trudie]

Here's a video of today's hearing

News video from today

ETA: Len Manley is all smiles, RW looks like she's not getting much sleep - bags under her eyes, standing with AW's brother.

Agree, GW4 looks kind of angry. We know he's a killer of 8 people, so it's fair to say he looks like a dangerous person. Fidgety, looking around, he strikes me as one most likely to try to make an escape during one of his trips outside the jail house. Guards better watch him closely.

Judge Deering looks like he has a bad back or something similar, the way sits down so awkwardly. Hope he's ok. GW4's attorney Knight looks like a nice, friendly guy, he's lucky to have him.

Awful For RW. She can’t possibly keep this up, imo.
Poor thing. How she must wish to be home with her dogs & horses. Literally, she could make herself sick trying to make every court appearance, imo.

 

[Trudie]

Looked as if he'd lost a bit of weight, too.

He does look thinner. Maybe just his attire, idk.
IMO, not being malicious, he has a natural “angry” look.
I think his dad is the same.
Just moo.....

 

[Loomis124]

He looked very disgruntled, and I noted the lack of disrespect for the judge. I think he'd be the one to keep your eye on in a crowd.

Definately.

 

[Loomis124]

My pleasure. I found several videos from news stations. If you search again, look specifically for those, maybe.
Or see Post 1819

Puzzles8 shared a good link.

 

[Trudie]

POLL of sorts.

If you’re facing the death penalty, would you plead guilty, to continue living? I would.

Hit “like” if you would plead guilty. please & tysm

 

[Loomis124]

He does look thinner. Maybe just his attire, idk.
IMO, not being malicious, he has a natural “angry” look.
I think his dad is the same.
Just moo.....

So true.

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

The Grandaw's trials should be much more expeditious, correct?

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

POLL of sorts.

If you’re facing the death penalty, would you plead guilty, to continue living? I would.

Hit “like” if you would plead guilty. please & tysm

Huh no way. We are riding this thinggg out we got 12 jurors all must prove guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Atleast one will flat out walk.

In all honesty, why plead guilty when you are tryin to walk right out that door ?

 

[Loomis124]

Awful For RW. She can’t possibly keep this up, imo.
Poor thing. How she must wish to be home with her dogs & horses. Literally, she could make herself sick trying to make every court appearance, imo.

IMO, she is following orders from her evil Mother. She has no choice. But...we still don't know if she was involved somehow. I think not, or, LE didn't have enough on her to arrest her, too. Or else they would have. JMO

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

IMO, she is following orders from her evil Mother. She has no choice. But...we still don't know if she was involved somehow. I think not, or, LE didn't have enough on her to arrest her, too. Or else they would have. JMO

I don’t believe FW is evil, unless she knew about these murders before hand. But If she found out after the fact then well she’s just protecting her family, id expect my family to do the same

RW is not involved, no way. She is like that lonely girl in the movie. They kept everything a secret from her cause they know she will go tattle

That brings the question: did she eventually find out and report it to authoritah? Or is she not the confidential informant?

 

[rsd1200]

IMO: His hands said he was nervous but his facial expressions appeared the complete opposite to me. They may be innocent but I don't have nothing kind to say about the whole lot.

BBM
Bingo. Shaving his beard made him appear younger, but he has kind of a "resting b***h" face anyway, but the eyes... The eyes have it. I think he's different.

 

[Dudly]

I don’t believe FW is evil, unless she knew about these murders before hand. But If she found out after the fact then well she’s just protecting her family, id expect my family to do the same

RW is not involved, no way. She is like that lonely girl in the movie. They kept everything a secret from her cause they know she will go tattle

That brings the question: did she eventually find out and report it to authoritah? Or is she not the confidential informant?

Keep in mind that the word "informant" was never used in any description...