OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#42

[JustaboyFromMS]

Sorry, I Keep Getting Glitches.....

I was just trying to respond to a poster who said his opinion on why people post about this Case, and I was trying to say that I think that the main reason people post about the Rhoden/Gilley Murder Case is because......

#1.) We want this Case solved.
#2.) We want Justice for Hanna and Chris Jr., Frankie and Hannah G., ........Dana and Chris Sr., and Gary and Kenny.
#3.) We want Justice for the Manley-Gilley-Rhoden families.

Thats rhetorical. Of course we all want these killers to face justice. That is not the sole reason people follow murder cases that they aren't personally involved/connected with. To paint everyone's interest in this case in one light is not realistic. IMO

 

[rsd1200]

Yes Coolcats I too had noticed his attorney talking and laughing with Angela Canepa, and have been so curious as to what it was he was laughing about. It struck me as an odd thing to do with a client sitting there

I think they were discussing something about the history of the building, iirc. Why would it be odd?

 

[Jayejayehilltop]

I think they were discussing something about the history of the building, iirc. Why would it be odd?

Well socializing with the enemy, pre se

 

[Betty P]

Well socializing with the enemy, pre se

These attorneys, like many other trial attorneys, work with each other every day/week. They're professional enough to still maintain perspective in their jobs. It's gotta be a stressful job at times.

IANAL, but judges and others keep an eye on things and make sure all the clients are being fairly represented.

 

[rsd1200]

Well socializing with the enemy, pre se

They aren't really enemies. I've seen attys eating lunch together. Now when the court comes to order, gloves are off.

 

[Wegoego]

They aren't really enemies. I've seen attys eating lunch together. Now when the court comes to order, gloves are off.

I think for the most part each side realizes what the job of the other side is and respects it. Like rsd1200 says... being an advocate for your client or victims doesn’t make you enemies.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

They aren't really enemies. I've seen attys eating lunch together. Now when the court comes to order, gloves are off.

Yep, sorta' like wrestlers. In the ring they loathe one another and later party together.

 

[Jayejayehilltop]

Yep, sorta' like wrestlers. In the ring they loathe one another and later party together.

All very good points that I understand, just couldnt hear anything and looks can be deceiving. I do not doubt they all know each other very well. I worked with alot of lawyers and politicians which could be arch enemy's yet dine, laugh and socialize very well together.

 

[Julia966]

All very good points that I understand, just couldnt hear anything and looks can be deceiving. I do not doubt they all know each other very well. I worked with alot of lawyers and politicians which could be arch enemy's yet dine, laugh and socialize very well together.

Which is fine, but they could refrain themselves from doing so in the courtroom. IMO.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Which is fine, but they could refrain themselves from doing so in the courtroom. IMO.

Unless GWs attorney game plan is a miss trial! JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

I've been following and enjoying your postings since the arrest of the Wagners in November. My parents are from the general area, but a different county. So some things do seem familiar while others definitely not. Don't know if the case of Brandy Daniels from Zanesville has been brought up, but there are some parallels.
Inside the Brandy Daniels murder investigation.

While only a single murder, child custody in a divorce case was the main motive for the murder with the husband residing in Alaska. His good buddy back home in Ohio carried out the execution while she was driving down a lonely country road. Husband immediately swooped down from Alaska and scooped up his daughter while denying Brandi's family any contact. Child custody does seem like a powerful motivator.

Incredible article. Thankx. There are parallels yes, and this part reminds me of the incredible hours put into the Rhoden/Gilley murder investigation:

The aftermath
Exactly 1,050 days passed, nearly three years, between the day of the murder and the day of sentencing.

It took the cooperation of multiple law enforcement agencies at the local, state and federal levels, including the Muskingum County Sheriff’s Office, Zanesville Police Department, Muskingum County Prosecutor’s Office, Licking County Coroner's Office, Montgomery County Coroner's Office, Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Alaska State Troopers.

It took thousands of phone records, thousands of man-hours and more than $100,000 in investigation-related expenditures.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

The tax payers deserve to know what the killers did that night not trying to hurt family or friends but the trials will cost Pike County a lot of money and if they are convicted they need attach onto their assets for the families and for the surviving children, Remember the Lord Giveith and the Lord Taketh Away.

Well this taxpayer disagrees. IMO the only ones who deserve to know the details of that night are the families of the victims. We as a society are naturally curious as to the whens, the whys, and the hows, but are not guaranteed anything.

Why should every gory detail of 8 murdered people be of interest to any outsiders? It baffles me.

 

[Myland]

Jmo but we drove down Mt etna to the church and as we looking out at the land we both said why would the Wagners throw the maglite (if silencer) in the well at their home with so many places on Fw land to bury evidence. Evidence could easily be burned and buried on that farm and even Fw wouldn’t know they were doing it. Large fields with no homes around on both sides of the road Jmo but of course I do believe they are not smart at all Jmo

 

[Cool Cats]

I think they were discussing something about the history of the building, iirc. Why would it be odd?

What's odd is the bright pink carpet..LOL....
The carpet was suppose to be red like in many courthouses, but the dye color was off.
This is what I have heard about it anyway.... 2 Cents...

But seriously, I went back and listened and they were definitely talking about the James Emmitt House.

Odd because it was famously haunted and it burned down. Located in downtown Waverly Ohio, same as the Courthouse.
Paranormal hotspot destroyed by fire: Emmitt House was heavily publicized as haunted

EDIT: WAIT: I thought you meant what they were discussing was odd. But now I realize you might have meant---Why would it be odd for them to be discussing this subject? If that's what you mean, then no, it's really not odd for them to discuss the building. Am I even making any sense?

 

[Caylee Advocate]

What's odd is the bright pink carpet..LOL....
The carpet was suppose to be red like in many courthouses, but the dye color was off.
This is what I have heard about it anyway.... 2 Cents...

But seriously, I went back and listened and they were definitely talking about the James Emmitt House.

Odd because it was famously haunted and it burned down. Located in downtown Waverly Ohio, same as the Courthouse.
Paranormal hotspot destroyed by fire: Emmitt House was heavily publicized as haunted

EDIT: WAIT: I thought you meant what they were discussing was odd. But now I realize you might have meant---Why would it be odd for them to be discussing this subject? If that's what you mean, then no, it's really not odd for them to discuss the building. Am I even making any sense?

Here is a little history of the courthouse Pike County Courthouse and a pic of where it is in relation to the former Emmitt House. Many a lawyer was known to drink *er, eat* their lunch there *2 minute walk*. lol. The jail was right beside the courthouse in another building, The jail (now defunct) is now offices with a holding cell for inmates waiting to go to court.


Pic of courthouse is the one with the white steeple.

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

Just for the record, I enjoy convos w/folks, but I am not here because of any entertainment value.

Can we move on from that comment, please? Entertainment isnt only comedy, there are many forms. If you use the convos here for enjoyment, that would be a form of entertainment. Not trying to play word semantics, buyI feel like you and @Cool Cats took entertainment & said "oh no, not me!". I also listed empathy & curiosity. Noone thinks these crimes are a joke. I mean no disrespect in any of that, or my original comment. I wont even acknowledge this topic again. I just feel like yall misunderstood me. JMO

 

[Dudly]

Jmo but we drove down Mt etna to the church and as we looking out at the land we both said why would the Wagners throw the maglite (if silencer) in the well at their home with so many places on Fw land to bury evidence. Evidence could easily be burned and buried on that farm and even Fw wouldn’t know they were doing it. Large fields with no homes around on both sides of the road Jmo but of course I do believe they are not smart at all Jmo

Quick and easy. Why would LE would look down there?

 

[Myland]

Quick and easy. Why would LE would look down there?

Good question after the property had been searched a year and half prior. Jmo

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

Well this taxpayer disagrees. IMO the only ones who deserve to know the details of that night are the families of the victims. Why should every gory detail of 8 murdered people be of interest to any outsiders? It baffles me.

The Ohio Supreme Court disagrees.

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The investigative files of a completed criminal case are a public record under Ohio law and can be released even if further appeals are possible, the state Supreme Court ruled Wednesday in a lawsuit brought by the Ohio Innocence Project.

Public records lawyers had argued that police departments were improperly interpreting earlier court decisions and arguing they could shield the files of long-closed cases until the defendants died.

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Completed criminal case files are public record, Ohio Supreme Court rules

 

[Jayejayehilltop]

Which is fine, but they could refrain themselves from doing so in the courtroom. IMO.

Thank you julia966, that is my point right there