OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#42

[FonescaFan]

Ooops, CA misread your post...Yes, it is difficult to read gory details, and I may have to pass on many of those, myself. Apparently the W4's don't want the gory details to be released in photos. Not because W4'S are squeamish, but because they don't want the gravity of their crimes to show they were committed by brutal, mindless monsters. Besides the sheer number of victims, their young ages, and the viciousness of the crime....how can one not care? How can one not wonder what kind of warped minds make a plan to spare the dogs, but kill human beings? I've never heard that in a church sermon.

Agreed, IQuestion. I want to learn about evidence, motive, and who the ‘mastermind’ was— who came up with the plan and how they convinced the other 3 to participate. I also want to know who John Doe is, if in fact there is a John Doe. But mainly I want justice for the victims’ families.

 

[Cool Cats]

The little Pruitt girl. I've been following her case, and the Spurlock case. The Pruitt girl was only 14, and has been found! She ran away to save herself from a perverted step-father.

YES! I saw this in the news! I am SO happy the sheriff said she's doing good ! I can't say other things about what happened or WEB S's would kick me off!!!!!

I mean because I am so disgusted about what happened to her. My husband and I have been involved in foster care of kids like this who were treated ....well...you get it......

 

[Cool Cats]

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[Puzzles8]

Our conversations are not always about the R murders. We also talk about life experiences ect. I think of this forum as a group of friends with similar interests that get together to talk about what's new in the case but talk about other things too. I think that is why so many people read this thread and we all keep coming back every day. There are interesting people here who just happen to be interested in the R murders. So yes it has entertainment value just as a group of friends that you meet for lunch every day has entertainment value. The facts that are posted here about the R murders are an added bonus.

To make a long statement short, we like each other.

JMO

Well said Raisin. I couldn't agree more!

 

[Puzzles8]

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The statistic that really stands out to me relates to this very thread.
There have been 1,245 replies on this thread, yet there have been 77,562 views....

 

[Loomis124]

Does anyone remember or have the MSM article of the young man in Piketon that spoke to reporters shortly after the murders about going on trips with CRSR to Columbus to pick up cars and how CRSR would "always go by the bank and draw out the money" before they left? I would appreciate it if you will share if you have it. TY

 

[OhioBlues]

Does anyone remember or have the MSM article of the young man in Piketon that spoke to reporters shortly after the murders about going on trips with CRSR to Columbus to pick up cars and how CRSR would "always go by the bank and draw out the money" before they left? I would appreciate it if you will share if you have it. TY

Why the Rhoden family had so many cars

 

[FrescaandSouthernComfort]

Does anyone remember or have the MSM article of the young man in Piketon that spoke to reporters shortly after the murders about going on trips with CRSR to Columbus to pick up cars and how CRSR would "always go by the bank and draw out the money" before they left? I would appreciate it if you will share if you have it. TY

Yes, The boy's name was Sean Hart, a friend of Little Chris. The article was published on www.Cincinnati.com on
the 17 May, 2016 and reappeared on Facebook as I'll Never Forget You.

 

[Loomis124]

Yes, The boy's name was Sean Hart, a friend of Little Chris. The article was published on www.Cincinnati.com on
the 17 May, 2016 and reappeared on Facebook as I'll Never Forget You.

God bless you and thank you! His name was on the tip of my tongue! Someone recently posted that perhaps CRSR just got money from his safe to go to auctions, but this article seems to differ with that notion. Betty P, do you remember this? TY

 

[Loomis124]

Agreed, IQuestion. I want to learn about evidence, motive, and who the ‘mastermind’ was— who came up with the plan and how they convinced the other 3 to participate. I also want to know who John Doe is, if in fact there is a John Doe. But mainly I want justice for the victims’ families.

IMO, make no mistake about it....There IS a John Doe, clearly stated in the indictments.

I found the article below quite encouraging:
Indicting John Doe: When all you have is DNA - CNN.com

 

[Loomis124]

FrescaandSouthernComfort, will you please comment on the John Doe mentioned in indictments? Is it possible they found unknown DNA at the scenes? See this article Indicting John Doe: When all you have is DNA - CNN.com

Or if you can say what you make of the John Doe references, it would be much appreciated. TYSM

 

[Amishcar]

Does anyone remember or have the MSM article of the young man in Piketon that spoke to reporters shortly after the murders about going on trips with CRSR to Columbus to pick up cars and how CRSR would "always go by the bank and draw out the money" before they left? I would appreciate it if you will share if you have it. TY

Why the Rhoden family had so many cars Here is the news story you are talking about.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Sorry, I just cant see it. These crimes were too horrific. We can revisit this once one or the other happens. JMO

Two will receive the DP and two will get life in prison, Jake and Angela is going to do what ever they have to do, if it means to rat big brother and Daddy out to avoid the DP, JMO.

 

[Loomis124]

Why the Rhoden family had so many cars

Yes, this is it! Thank you do much! My point was...Sr. must not have just kept money in the safe for these purchases. TY

 

[Cool Cats]

Two will receive the DP and two will get life in prison, Jake and Angela is going to do what ever they have to do, if it means to rat big brother and Daddy out to avoid the DP, JMO.

I think Jake will go to trial unless one of the Wagners confesses and implicates him.
He's arrogant and thinks he might beat some of the case.

If he killed 8 people with custody being a big motive, then he's going to do everything he can to get his daughter back---that means winning at trial.
.....Just My 2 Cents.....

 

[Loomis124]

Two will receive the DP and two will get life in prison, Jake and Angela is going to do what ever they have to do, if it means to rat big brother and Daddy out to avoid the DP, JMO.

JMO, but I disagree. No one will rat.

 

[FrescaandSouthernComfort]

FrescaandSouthernComfort, will you please comment on the John Doe mentioned in indictments? Is it possible they found unknown DNA at the scenes? See this article Indicting John Doe: When all you have is DNA - CNN.com

Or if you can say what you make of the John Doe references, it would be much appreciated. TYSM

It is very difficult for me to believe, LE would try for indictments without solid DNA evidence. At first I thought there was
a witness in FW's home during the discussing of revenge. GWII was still living and was subjected to a search before his death. Was there a possibility of a nurse or caretaker in the home? LE has repeated many time of the years it will take
for justice to be served. Perhaps LE is protecting all of the DNA samples and used John Doe to avoid revealing this to
the defense.

 

[Puzzles8]

It is very difficult for me to believe, LE would try for indictments without solid DNA evidence. At first I thought there was
a witness in FW's home during the discussing of revenge. GWII was still living and was subjected to a search before his death. Was there a possibility of a nurse or caretaker in the home? LE has repeated many time of the years it will take
for justice to be served. Perhaps LE is protecting all of the DNA samples and used John Doe to avoid revealing this to
the defense.

Do you know when GGWII died? I have tried to search an obituary and can't find one. Also I think I saw where DR did some home nursing for him. Do you know if that is true?
TIA

 

[Loomis124]

It is very difficult for me to believe, LE would try for indictments without solid DNA evidence. At first I thought there was
a witness in FW's home during the discussing of revenge. GWII was still living and was subjected to a search before his death. Was there a possibility of a nurse or caretaker in the home? LE has repeated many time of the years it will take
for justice to be served. Perhaps LE is protecting all of the DNA samples and used John Doe to avoid revealing this to
the defense.

Definitely good thoughts and something to ponder. Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[Jonas_Klein]

Two will receive the DP and two will get life in prison, Jake and Angela is going to do what ever they have to do, if it means to rat big brother and Daddy out to avoid the DP, JMO.

No i do not agree. All JMO.

AW will never give her sons. They are out of her womb. While some mother abandon their offsprings when they are fateless, this one nurtured them well into their adulthood.

If she rats, she loads her husband. She would say she feared him. A wife's defense. If caught, he takes all the blame to save his sons. Perhaps, he pleads some kind of mental illness. Prosecution would have to prove he could not do it alone.

JW has nothing to gain. The Rs were his inlaws and he is knee deep in it. For him, that's all or nothing. He is pleading not guilty until the end.

The question mark is G4. A jury could believe he's got nothing to do with it.