OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#44

[Betty P]

Court proceedings will reveal how close they were.

If as early as july 2012, The Rs were invited to GW4s wedding, then they were close enough.

When did HMR and JW started to date?

Do you have a link showing the R's were invited to GW4's wedding? TIA

 

[Cool Cats]

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[Dudly]

BBM. Who claimed they were like brothers? What is your source to tell they weren't?

AW claimed the Rs were friends. I believe it to be true at one point in the history of their relationship. Of course, not in the end.

I also believe GW3 knew well KR. Remarkably, they were of same age.

The kids have known each other for a long time. They could have met at school of course. However they arent the same age. Therefore I tend to think the friendship between the parents played part.

From everything I have seen over the last few years, JW and HR met at Big Bear Lake. Their age difference is such that they wouldn't have been in high school together. She was going to graduate the year she was murdered.
My parents and my ex-wife's parents were in pics together and were not close friends. They never spoke to each other unless they were at a gathering for the grand kids or something. But they smiled for the pics. Do you see GWIII and CRsr smiling like they are happy together?

 

[Myland]

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[Deleted member 239597]

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I live in Ohio and it isn't a tough place to live imo. People that live in that area are offended by how their community is being portrayed.

The crime statistics vary from state to state. The State of OHIO based on statistics alone put it in a higher category for violent crime when compared to the same statistics as other states. I'm sorry you took it to mean I was portraying your state in a negative light. I Never ONCE said it was a bad place to live. I said a tough..... there is a difference.

The R's are victims. Their families are victims. WS is a victim-friendly site. I don't know and I can't even speculate of anything that would cause the R's to deserve to be murdered in the dead of the night.

Who is stating that they deserve to be murdered? Surely NOT ME....quite the contrary. NO ONE DESERVES to be murdered ESPECIALLY the way this family was.

They were at the same event (whatever it was). That's how I take it and I don't think it means that they were close at all. Every year, people appear in photos with people that they are not close to and I don't think appearing in a photo means that they went together.

I've already stated I do not feel they were close at all; especially NOT the two patriarchs of the family. I actually said the same exact thing you have said here.

My parents and my ex-wife's parents were in pics together and were not close friends. They never spoke to each other unless they were at a gathering for the grand kids or something. But they smiled for the pics. Do you see GWIII and CRsr smiling like they are happy together?

I want to get one thing straight. I do look at things in an objective light. The state of OHIO is not being portrayed negatively when someone simply says it's a tough place to live. Second, just because I do believe CRjr was rebellious and got into fights does not mean I think he was a bad KID he was a child. Children do those things all the time. FURTHERMORE....I DO believe the R family are good people. Kind people....not once have I said, personally anything to the contrary.

As much as I like to stick with the US CONSTITUTION in stating EVERYONE is INNOCENT until Proven guilty in no means reflects my personal opinion as to who did this and my own personal feelings of what they are. I do state it to be in alignment of what the judicial system has stated.

I do not know if any of these comments were directed at me but I wanted to set the record straight there.

 

[Dudly]

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The crime statistics vary from state to state. The State of OHIO based on statistics alone put it in a higher category for violent crime when compared to the same statistics as other states. I'm sorry you took it to mean I was portraying your state in a negative light. I Never ONCE said it was a bad place to live. I said a tough..... there is a difference.



Who is stating that they deserve to be murdered? Surely NOT ME....quite the contrary. NO ONE DESERVES to be murdered ESPECIALLY the way this family was.



I've already stated I do not feel they were close at all; especially NOT the two patriarchs of the family. I actually said the same exact thing you have said here.



I want to get one thing straight. I do look at things in an objective light. The state of OHIO is not being portrayed negatively when someone simply says it's a tough place to live. Second, just because I do believe CRjr was rebellious and got into fights does not mean I think he was a bad KID he was a child. Children do those things all the time. FURTHERMORE....I DO believe the R family are good people. Kind people....not once have I said, personally anything to the contrary.

As much as I like to stick with the US CONSTITUTION in stating EVERYONE is INNOCENT until Proven guilty in no means reflects my personal opinion as to who did this and my own personal feelings of what they are. I do state it to be in alignment of what the judicial system has stated.

I do not know if any of these comments were directed at me but I wanted to set the record straight there.

Why was what I posted included? I didn't direct anything toward you in any way. I made a comment that people taking pics together do not have to be good friends...

 

[Deleted member 239597]

Why was what I posted included? I didn't direct anything toward you in any way. I made a comment that people taking pics together do not have to be good friends...

Sry don't worry about it... I didn't mean to....I'm going to sit on my hands

MY heart goes out to the RHODEN AND GILLEYS GOD BLESS YOU all and have a wonderful life.

 

[OhioBlues]

BBM. Who claimed they were like brothers? What is your source to tell they weren't?

AW claimed the Rs were friends. I believe it to be true at one point in the history of their relationship. Of course, not in the end.

I also believe GW3 knew well KR. Remarkably, they were of same age.

The kids have known each other for a long time. They could have met at school of course. However they arent the same age. Therefore I tend to think the friendship between the parents played part.

I thought AW said that BW/CR were like brothers in a news article. I could very well be wrong so unless someone else knows the source then everyone should disregard. I edited that statement.

Your next statement says that you believe AW friend claim to be true. We all have opinions fortunately and I respect that. I just don't agree tho. If a grown man gets my young daughter pregnant then I would be furious and strongly dislike him and probably them for life. I would try to make it ok for my daughter tho and try to not let her know or put her in the middle of anything.

Why do you think that GW3 and KR were friends? I haven't read anything in the news about that or even seen speculation about that.

 

[Deleted member 239597]

Why was what I posted included? I didn't direct anything toward you in any way. I made a comment that people taking pics together do not have to be good friends...

I don't know why actually …..we are all saying the same things with the three comments bout the w and r/g not being close...stricken off the record please.... I really felt badly @OhioBlues took what I said wrong. In no way do I ever want to hurt another's feelings here. That is evil in and of itself.

 

[iridized]

From Custody dispute played role in killing of Rhoden family, officials say
"John “Ozzy” Osborn, owner of Ozzy’s Barber Shop in Waverly, said the arrests seemed to take the case full circle. The volatile relationship between the Rhodens and Wagners wasn’t exactly a secret.

“Those two families were tight — until they split,” he said." This guy claims that they were friends at one point. I see no reason why he would lie to the reporter.

I do not understand the dislike shown to those who do report on this story. From what I have seen they report on the region in an accurate manner. It may not paint the region in a glowing light, but that does not make it inaccurate.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

The Wagners were once close with the Rhodens. Angela Wagner, 48, told the Cincinnati Enquirer last year that her husband, George "Billy" Wagner, 47, was "best friends" with Hanna's father, Christopher Rhoden, Sr.

 

[Cool Cats]

BBM. Who claimed they were like brothers? What is your source to tell they weren't?

AW claimed the Rs were friends. I believe it to be true at one point in the history of their relationship. Of course, not in the end.

I also believe GW3 knew well KR. Remarkably, they were of same age.

The kids have known each other for a long time. They could have met at school of course. However they arent the same age. Therefore I tend to think the friendship between the parents played part.

Angela Wagner called her husband, George "Billy" Wagner and Christopher Rhoden, Sr., "best friends."

"He would have been there for Chris through thick and thin," she wrote. "They were that close."

 

[Cool Cats]

I thought AW said that BW/CR were like brothers in a news article. I could very well be wrong so unless someone else knows the source then everyone should disregard. I edited that statement.

Yes 100% for sure Angela Wagner said in an article, MSM, that Chris Rhoden Senior and Billy Wagner were like brothers.

I can find this article if anyone doubts it, I just need time to go back and search for it, but it's true and I've read it at least a few times. I have a good memory.

However, just because Angela Wagner said this doesn't make it absolutely true, but it was reported in the MSM.

 

[Betty P]

From Custody dispute played role in killing of Rhoden family, officials say
"John “Ozzy” Osborn, owner of Ozzy’s Barber Shop in Waverly, said the arrests seemed to take the case full circle. The volatile relationship between the Rhodens and Wagners wasn’t exactly a secret.

“Those two families were tight — until they split,” he said." This guy claims that they were friends at one point. I see no reason why he would lie to the reporter.

I do not understand the dislike shown to those who do report on this story. From what I have seen they report on the region in an accurate manner. It may not paint the region in a glowing light, but that does not make it inaccurate.

Most of the reporters who have worked on this story are from local/regional news media. They've all done a very good job. Some of them have big fans and followers here. I have a hard time singling any out, because they've all done exemplary work, especially Chris Graves of the Cincinnati Enquirer, Holly Zacharia at the Columbus Dispatch, Jody Barr, who was at the Fox affiliate in Cincinnati, everyone at the Chillicothe Gazette. No one could ask more of newspapers than the Cinci Enquirer and Columbus Dispatch who went all the way to the Ohio Supreme Court to gain news media access to the final AR's, not for sensationalism, but for the sake of transparency.

WLWT does a great job covering the hearings, etc. and of course our favorite pool video journalist who stands in the corner of the Pike County Courtroom to give us a good view during the pre-trial hearings. He's very professional and seems to know just when and where to move the shot to capture facial expressions, movements, people writing on their trousers, etc. I should try to find out his name.

The regulars/locals have all been very good and I assume they've been respectful to the families and friends.

At the beginning, there were a lot of national and global journalists covering the story. They did as good a job as they could at the time, given the restrictions placed on them by LE.

For months and years, many following this case tried to get the national news media to come back, do a follow up story, poke into the case to see why it was taking so long to make an arrest. None were interested. Since the arrests have been made, I hope the national news media returns to cover the story in an unbiased, professional manner.
They may want to follow the example of local/regional news media who might explain local customs and help them understand the importance of avoiding stereotypes. The tabloid tv shows may want to consider doing the same.

JMO

 

[Betty P]

WRT crime statistics for Ohio, the state actually ranks low for violent crime, compared to the other 50 states.

Here's the data from 2017, by state

Reported violent crime rate in the U.S. by state 2017 | Statistic

The national average is 394 reports per 100,000 population
Ohio is below the national average at 297.5 reports per 100,000 population. That's not bad considering there are at least 5 major metropolitan areas in the state: Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Dayton and Toledo.

There are 33 states that rank higher than Ohio for violent crime, including New York, California, Tennessee, Nebraska, Washington, District of Columbia, Illinois, Colorado, Montana, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Massachusetts, etc.

We've analyzed a lot of data here in the last 2 yrs relating to murders, drug use, drug deaths, etc. Will be happy to look up more stats for those who need them.

JMO

 

[OhioBlues]

I don't know why actually …..we are all saying the same things with the three comments bout the w and r/g not being close...stricken off the record please.... I really felt badly @OhioBlues took what I said wrong. In no way do I ever want to hurt another's feelings here. That is evil in and of itself.

You highlighted 3 different things that I said and I don't know why either.

I replied to one thing that you wrote only.

Everyone can speak for themselves but when I post it doesn't mean that I am posting to you so you don't need to make another post that you think that you hurt my feelings.

I am not going back/forth with you about anything. This is about the victims and killers and theories etc.

I hold no ill will etc.

 

[Harmony 2]

Not Allowed

Social media pages that fall in the following categories are OFF LIMITS.

Family members of either a victim or a suspect
Friends of either a victim or a suspect
Most any other individual

Don't link to these pages, nor make reference to information you find on them.

Rules - Social Media - Facebook, Twitter, etc.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

WLWT does a great job covering the hearings, etc. and of course our favorite pool video journalist who stands in the corner of the Pike County Courtroom to give us a good view during the pre-trial hearings. He's very professional and seems to know just when and where to move the shot to capture facial expressions, movements, people writing on their trousers, etc. I should try to find out his name.

Robert McGraw.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

"Wagner also told The Enquirer that her husband, Billy, and Christopher Rhoden Sr. were more like brothers than friends."....



SHE LIED!!!!!


Ohio authorities: Custody dispute played role in slaying of 8

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Before we lose focus on what matters most, here is but one reminder of why I will see this case through, until each and every one of these 4 soulless killers is either strapped to a gurney, or locked behind bars for life.

Jake later told the outlet via email:

“No, I have not told Sophia her mommy was killed/murdered. That would be too much for her to handle right now. She knows her mommy is visiting with Jesus and lives in her heart whenever she needs her.”


How can any of them profess to love little Sophie when they have put her through so much pain and turmoil? These little ones are the true innocents....

One day I pray Jake can man up and spare Sophie any more pain and tell her some truths! Hanna didn't go visit Jesus by choice, he and his sick family caused her to be with Jesus through no fault of her own!!

Tears for these kids.