OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #16

[NWLady]

Just jumping off your post...I can't remember if it was the 911 call by DS or in one of his interviews but it seems as if I remember him mentioning KR had "A gunshot wound" If indeed that was said, IMO that could be very telling...

From his 911 call:




http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...ipts-911-calls-pike-county-slayings/83445300/

I believe this is from the first interview he gave to the Daily Mail:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cutors-killings-cold-calculated-massacre.html

And this...BBM and Snipped by me...

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...ipts-911-calls-pike-county-slayings/83445300/

Caller: It’s all that stuff that’s on the news. Um, I just found, I just found my cousin with a gunshot wound.

Caller: I’m out of the house right now. I just went in, hollering at him, and checked if he was alright, and I looked up at him and he had a gunshot wound.

 

[NWLady]

Just jumping off your post...I can't remember if it was the 911 call by DS or in one of his interviews but it seems as if I remember him mentioning KR had "A gunshot wound" If indeed that was said, IMO that could be very telling...

From his 911 call:




http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...ipts-911-calls-pike-county-slayings/83445300/

I believe this is from the first interview he gave to the Daily Mail:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cutors-killings-cold-calculated-massacre.html

So, Daily Mail reports that DS found KR face down. I thought I read somewhere that DS said KR had blood in his eyes. If so, then either DS picked up KRs head to look at his face, or he wasn't face down... Or maybe just on his stomach with his head turned?

Yes, you are right, here is the link...

http://www.wlwt.com/news/cousin-of-...unts-grisly-discovery-at-crime-scene/39424988

I walked up to the foot of the bed, I raised my head up and I looked. I saw blood in his eyes, and I knew then he was dead."

 

[Canaille]

http://nbc4i.com/2016/05/05/pike-co...-cousins-body-calling-911-on-day-of-massacre/

“I look over and I see Kenneth’s leg on the bed,” he said. “I walk up to the foot of the bed, and I raise my head up and I looked and I seen blood in his eyes, and I knew he was dead.”

 

[rsd1200]

Just jumping off your post....

I wonder if maybe CR Sr might've been interested in the property too because of the building on it?!

IIRC, DR and CR had been together since she was probably in her late teens, so with that in mind, I find it hard to believe that she would not know about the grow ops. JMO

I don't see how she could not have known unless she just never went into the grow room and they kept the trailers completely spotless of any marijuana evidence. It could be possible but I really doubt it. I'd read a post somewhere that indicated they'd gotten back together as early as 2010. She may not have approved but went along w/it. Something LM said about her, and the kids, being good, but couldn't speak for the rest of them, led me to believe he knew a bit more then he let on too. But, back to your thought, I'd say that's entirely possible. It would serve two purposes. New place for them and more space for the plants. They need a bit of room as they grow. If at all possible, it is preferable to not allow their leaves to touch (just a rule of thumb).

 

[NWLady]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cutors-killings-cold-calculated-massacre.html

Car repairman Donald Stone, 44, described how he found cousin Kenneth Rhoden lying face down on his bed with a single bullet wound to his head.

 

[NWLady]

And as another poster had pointed out just recently, the position of CR and GR being face up versus face down was also changed from one to the other...

 

[rsd1200]

Hello from New York! Been keeping up with this case since the day it began and have been following these posts for a bit but finally decided to post. To me it seems like money is the motivation. A few main targets and the rest could have been snitches so they had to be taken out as well. In my mind that's one of the only reasons to motivate someone to kill like this. BJM and DS can be suspects however I don't think they are clever enough to make a clean murder. Not tryin to put them down but really, how many common people can get away with murdering 8 people in 4 different locations?

Another big discussion is the illegal activities of the family members. I'm not from around the Pike County area but I have read that it is an area with limited jobs/opportunities. It's easy to judge people who are involved in "cockfighting" but if it's between having two birds kill each other or having your family starve, I'm sure the decision will be easy. This might not be the case or it just might be, we will never know. I'm from NYC, which is full of hustlers who will get their money by any means necessary, no fighting around here but plenty of people sell drugs. No it is not "right" but that's just the world we live in.

Anyway, I just thought I would put in my two cents and am glad there's people who are just as obsessed with this case as I am! I'm just hoping LE was able to find even a little bit of DNA somewhere to get a suspect.

Also has anyone seen a YouTube video of a man claiming he spoke to CR2 and KR through spirits? (If this comment/link isn't allowed please let me know) and as well as HR Instagram page?

Welcome! I have not seen that video but will now have to search it out. It's against TOS to post it here though. I did not know DR had an Instagram but have seen the Flip-a-gram. I'm not sure if we are allowed to post links to Instagrams or not.

 

[Everyday Grace]

I posted this the other day but thought I'd repost again...BBM

Dewine also elaborated on the three marijuana grow sites found at three of the murder sites. He told 700WLW that the sites were not just a few plants, but rather they were industrial grow sites used to produce marijuana for sale. He said it was one of the biggest operations he's seen in the state. Read more: http://www.700wlw.com/articles/loca...dence-of-cockfighting-14641398/#ixzz49v87pvKx

It's been many years since I've heard Bill Cunningham on the radio.

That's the first time I've actually listened to that interview rather than relying on the post-show write-up.

Interesting how the emphasis on fighting and the marijuana grow is more on Cunningham's part than DeWine's.

His style and method hasn't changed a bit over the years. He does seem to be favored media for DeWine. Makes sense as Cunningham has a big reach to voters DeWine's gonna need.

Maybe I should listen again, but I believe Cunningham is the one who referred to the grow op as one of the most sophisticated that DeWine had ever seen. DeWine seemed to hedge on that one.

I'll wait a bit before I repeat the listening experience. Maybe in another 20 years. ::escape:

 

[NWLady]

I would think the image would stay in a person's mind of what you last seen of your loved one/family member/friend etc. lying there dead and that you'd clearly be able to recall whether they were face up or face down...or at least your recall would be 'consistent' JMO

 

[Everyday Grace]

This is why I think that 200 plants may not be an over exaggeration, nor an under exaggeration. It just depends on the specific person's idea of size, scope, and value. I've found that LE tends to exaggerate at times. We don't know how many Dewine's even seen. He didn't even know what a game was. If there are/were 200 plants I think we'll see 8 x 10 glossies of said plants w/the LEOs holding them, and / or taking apart the sophisticated grow op equipment, b/c it will be just too much of a find not to do so. The link below is reads, "Police say they have eliminated one of the largest and most sophisticated marijuana-growing operations in the city's history." It was a bust this past summer in New Philadelphia, Ohio and there were 18 plants.

http://www.timesreporter.com/article/20150826/NEWS/150829483

With circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was....

 

[bluesneakers]

With circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was....

I was hoping for that.

 

[mrssmith23]

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[JustJaime]

Do we know for sure they had no bank account? Around here you'd have to have stable employment jump through certain hoops to get a 30k loan. I assume it is different there so would anyone really question the money if he did have an account? Am I making any sense lol

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CR1 had a bank account, in an interview view with cr2's friend he stated that they use to got to the bank so CR1 can get enough to buy a couple cars at the auction.

 

[mrssmith23]

So, Daily Mail reports that DS found KR face down. I thought I read somewhere that DS said KR had blood in his eyes. If so, then either DS picked up KRs head to look at his face, or he wasn't face down... Or maybe just on his stomach with his head turned?

I caught this as well. But wouldn't facedown be facedown? I don't know. The one quote was also from the daily mail.. So I have no idea.


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[0101ABA]

Links to Instagram accounts are allowed to be posted. Just please remember that the same rules apply to them as to other SM pages.

 

[Riia409]

Thank you for the welcome! The only IG account I've seen is HR's and I'll post the link. I don't think it has any significant info but just thought I would share.

https://www.instagram.com/redneck_gal_97/

 

[rsd1200]

I would think the image would stay in a person's mind of what you last seen of your loved one/family member/friend etc. lying there dead and that you'd clearly be able to recall whether they were face up or face down...or at least your recall would be 'consistent' JMO

I think maybe the newspapers were at fault on those. It took the one that misquoted BJM about two weeks to edit theirs so I figured BJM notified them or LE did, b/c they probably contacted her re; the discrepancy, and w/DS, it's the newspaper, again, I'd guess, b/c the one that says facedown is in the minority and does not match his 911 call either. I think the papers were in such a hurry to get this on websites and in print that they did not proofread very well. I've found several discrepancies and not on just sites like the DailyMail. I've been pretty hard on DS and BJM but I do believe the papers are at fault this time.

 

[rsd1200]

With circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was....

Caught that, huh? lol

 

[rsd1200]

Thank you for the welcome! The only IG account I've seen is HR's and I'll post the link. I don't think it has any significant info but just thought I would share.

https://www.instagram.com/redneck_gal_97/

These make me sad. On the photo of the ultrasound pictures, HR's due date wasn't until the 29th, she noted; 35 wks, April 29,2016! Baby two!! #baby

 

[mrssmith23]

Thank you for the welcome! The only IG account I've seen is HR's and I'll post the link. I don't think it has any significant info but just thought I would share.

https://www.instagram.com/redneck_gal_97/

Wow. She sure has had quite a few pretty decent looking cars.


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