OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #20

[rsd1200]

I've read they bonded out already. Probably going to the grand jury? $150K bond, not sure if it was 10% or not.

It didn't say cash bond, so I'd guess it was 10% and that was probably pretty easy for them to come up with. But, his name is still listed, no sign of hers though on the site that recommended the case to the grand jury. It's just him. If he takes the fall for it, and says she knew nothing, they may not be able to get her, if there was nothing outside of those vault doors, but she'll have nowhere to live. They'll confiscate everything.

 

[Dr. Know?]

It didn't say cash bond, so I'd guess it was 10% and that was probably pretty easy for them to come up with. But, his name is still listed, no sign of hers though on the site that recommended the case to the grand jury. It's just him. If he takes the fall for it, and says she knew nothing, they may not be able to get her, if there was nothing outside of those vault doors, but she'll have nowhere to live. They'll confiscate everything.

Not sure about OH but some states have a clause that if it's cash surety bond and is backed by illegals gains, that could be forfeited also. S Eury has an interesting background from the 90's but I'm getting really off topic, my apologies.

 

[Everyday Grace]

The Eury operation was what I would call "sophisticated." Not enough information regarding the Rhoden op for me to form a solid opinion as to the full size and scope.

Tossing out what are only speculative possibilities:

Ohio growers would be smart to move some of their grows to year-round indoor ops. Higher quality products and year-round product to supply to the market.

Possible that the Rhoden ops were expanding their indoor ops and had received technical guidance from Eury. Speculation only.

Also possible that both ops sold product to the same broker to put their product into the market.

Regardless of the size of the Rhoden op, I wouldn't say they and the Eurys were necessarily "competition."

My experience with illicit growers located in a general area is that their relationships with one another were more along the lines of "cooperative" rather than "competitive."

They didn't share all of their growing knowledge and tips with one another, but some did work together to get the best wholesale prices for their products and to grow product of a quality to enhance their area's reputation and thus increase their market prices.

I'm not sold on a theory that the Rhodes simply sold grams and other small quantities to locals. They may have had some local retail sales, but I think they were probably producing enough to sell some volume to the wholesale market that would then leave the area.

Going by what KR's daughter had to say about her father's participation in the weed economy, I don't see him or CR1 as novices who would settle for only messing with local retail sales.

I think it is possible that the Eury op could have been uncovered by the Rhoden investigation.

Possible that both producers were selling product to the same broker(s) and that being a manner in how law enforcement learned about the Eurys.

Also possible that an investigation pre-dated the Rhoden murders and could have bearing on the Rhoden and Eury events that put them into the news.

All purely speculation.

One could have nothing to do with the other beyond shared geography.

 

[glf]

Can you find a link for that grow opp? I would like to read it.

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Thread 2 pg1, press video.

 

[glf]

I remember those pics too. There was a bit of talk on the MSM sites about not allowing them in, and why. Iirc too, they shut down the road just past KR's place and above it UHR, in at the other end of UHR.

If I remember correctly, a TV reporter stated they were about three-quarters of a mile from crime scene, being Chris's and Frankie's property.

 

[Everyday Grace]

Am I missing something or is the wife/gf not in that listing. She may get out of this.

You won't find her if you look for Justice Eury. You will find her case by looking for Justice Stamper.

County Court tab.

Same address as his on State Route 348, Blue Creek, OH

Her particulars are the same as his. 2nd degree cultivation.

I don't see her getting out of the charge other than him possibly dealing a guilty plea to have hers dismissed or reduced.

 

[MaryMac250]

Probably won't matter which or how many newspapers file to sue Pike county, that will all just get pushed to the back burner, and we won't know anything til it's all over! I am really sick of Pike county's BS.

Totally agree. They may think they're playing it smart, but they're coming off very dumb looking. Of course, as we are all fond of saying, JMO.

 

[MaryMac250]

All I am simply saying is I don't understand why people think it is strange that there are no photo's. They have not shown any evidence in this case at all. What they are showing is consistent behavior in denying details as they said they would. We would all love to see some evidence but I don't feel like I have a right to it in the middle of an investigation. Nor do I feel it is their job to prove this case to me before it goes to trial. That is the responsibility of the attorneys. Making us believe what happened is saved for the court room. We unfortunately have to wait and let them work it. I do not mean to come off as being sh**ty but they are not in the business of making us believe anything. I'm not trying to guess the size of the grow. I'm just looking for connections.

Now, if the families involved were crying out for the public's help and demanding info I would support them in that.

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In that community, I am not sure anyone would say anything negative about the way LE is proceeding---JMO. Also, against the background of recent LE problems in the area, I think close outside public scrutiny is more than justified. Just saying.

 

[rsd1200]

Not sure about OH but some states have a clause that if it's cash surety bond and is backed by illegals gains, that could be forfeited also. S Eury has an interesting background from the 90's but I'm getting really off topic, my apologies.

I saw that too, but looks as if they've been trying to fly under the radar in recent years. I just honestly don't see the two grows being related, based on what we've been given at this point, again, unless the Rhodens were narcing.

 

[rsd1200]

The Eury operation was what I would call "sophisticated." Not enough information regarding the Rhoden op for me to form a solid opinion as to the full size and scope.

Tossing out what are only speculative possibilities:

Ohio growers would be smart to move some of their grows to year-round indoor ops. Higher quality products and year-round product to supply to the market.

Possible that the Rhoden ops were expanding their indoor ops and had received technical guidance from Eury. Speculation only.

Also possible that both ops sold product to the same broker to put their product into the market.

Regardless of the size of the Rhoden op, I wouldn't say they and the Eurys were necessarily "competition."

My experience with illicit growers located in a general area is that their relationships with one another were more along the lines of "cooperative" rather than "competitive."

They didn't share all of their growing knowledge and tips with one another, but some did work together to get the best wholesale prices for their products and to grow product of a quality to enhance their area's reputation and thus increase their market prices.

I'm not sold on a theory that the Rhodes simply sold grams and other small quantities to locals. They may have had some local retail sales, but I think they were probably producing enough to sell some volume to the wholesale market that would then leave the area.

Going by what KR's daughter had to say about her father's participation in the weed economy, I don't see him or CR1 as novices who would settle for only messing with local retail sales.

I think it is possible that the Eury op could have been uncovered by the Rhoden investigation.

Possible that both producers were selling product to the same broker(s) and that being a manner in how law enforcement learned about the Eurys.

Also possible that an investigation pre-dated the Rhoden murders and could have bearing on the Rhoden and Eury events that put them into the news.

All purely speculation.

One could have nothing to do with the other beyond shared geography.

BBM

I think that you are probably pretty close. I agree w/you on the Rhoden's sales too. I think it went to actual dealers, who broke it down, and then sold it to lower level folks, who basically sell it to help pay for their usage of the product and make a bit extra on the side. I don't think the Rhodens were selling dime bags out of their homes. I heard "rumor" that one of them was selling a little that way but it's unfounded, however, they may very well have kept some back to sell to friends and family.

 

[rsd1200]

You won't find her if you look for Justice Eury. You will find her case by looking for Justice Stamper.

County Court tab.

Same address as his on State Route 348, Blue Creek, OH

Her particulars are the same as his. 2nd degree cultivation.

I don't see her getting out of the charge other than him possibly dealing a guilty plea to have hers dismissed or reduced.

I looked under Stamper earlier but it didn't show. I must've missed it.

 

[rsd1200]

You won't find her if you look for Justice Eury. You will find her case by looking for Justice Stamper.

County Court tab.

Same address as his on State Route 348, Blue Creek, OH

Her particulars are the same as his. 2nd degree cultivation.

I don't see her getting out of the charge other than him possibly dealing a guilty plea to have hers dismissed or reduced.

I found it this time. I must've failed to click the correct button. The wives of the two folks I knew got out of it and it was much more than pot. One was arrested, but was found not guilty or wasn't indicted, I can't remember which. But, she was pretty much homeless afterward. The other was in an era that they didn't confiscate your assests.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I saw that too, but looks as if they've been trying to fly under the radar in recent years. I just honestly don't see the two grows being related, based on what we've been given at this point, again, unless the Rhodens were narcing.

Agree, I don't think they are related, just hoping someone talks. Today, I'm following the money and since a bank was named with the Eury's it's so interesting to sleuth.

I know some posters earlier on were familar with Dana's property & the money put down plus the other money financed. Anyone remember who financed it? Not finding it on the property info link. Just the property info. tia

 

[glf]

Ray do you think there is a connection between the Rhodens and the Eury's? Other than geographical? Or that somebody upset about the Rhoden's deaths could have tipped off police about underground pot grow? Adams county Sheriff made it sound like theirs was an ongoing investigation, but "ongoing" doesn't necessarily mean many months.

 

[glf]

Agree, I don't think they are related, just hoping someone talks. Today, I'm following the money and since a bank was named with the Eury's it's so interesting to sleuth.

I know some posters earlier on were familar with Dana's property & the money put down plus the other money financed. Anyone remember who financed it? Not finding it on the property info link. Just the property info. tia

I believe somebody said one of the local banks. That was a few threads back.

 

[Everyday Grace]

Agree, I don't think they are related, just hoping someone talks. Today, I'm following the money and since a bank was named with the Eury's it's so interesting to sleuth.

I know some posters earlier on were familar with Dana's property & the money put down plus the other money financed. Anyone remember who financed it? Not finding it on the property info link. Just the property info. tia

$30K mortgage

National Bank of Adams County

http://oh3laredo.fidlar.com/OHScioto/DirectSearch/Default.aspx

Rhoden, Christopher
2016R-1844

Main office in West Union.

http://www.nbaconline.com/location.html

IIRC, Clarence Rhoden may have lived in or near West Union or in that part of Adams County early in his life. Hard to remember what it was. Seems like ages ago when I saw it.

 

[Everyday Grace]

I found it this time. I must've failed to click the correct button. The wives of the two folks I knew got out of it and it was much more than pot. One was arrested, but was found not guilty or wasn't indicted, I can't remember which. But, she was pretty much homeless afterward. The other was in an era that they didn't confiscate your assests.

Site was giving me fits earlier especially under the County Court tab.

Driving myself nuts about where to see Adams County felony dockets. 99% sure I could get there a couple of months ago. Will post it if/when I locate it. I'm curious as to the status of the Eurys.

 

[Margo/Mom]

The Eury operation was what I would call "sophisticated." Not enough information regarding the Rhoden op for me to form a solid opinion as to the full size and scope.

Tossing out what are only speculative possibilities:

Ohio growers would be smart to move some of their grows to year-round indoor ops. Higher quality products and year-round product to supply to the market.

Possible that the Rhoden ops were expanding their indoor ops and had received technical guidance from Eury. Speculation only.

Also possible that both ops sold product to the same broker to put their product into the market.

Regardless of the size of the Rhoden op, I wouldn't say they and the Eurys were necessarily "competition."

My experience with illicit growers located in a general area is that their relationships with one another were more along the lines of "cooperative" rather than "competitive."

They didn't share all of their growing knowledge and tips with one another, but some did work together to get the best wholesale prices for their products and to grow product of a quality to enhance their area's reputation and thus increase their market prices.

I'm not sold on a theory that the Rhodes simply sold grams and other small quantities to locals. They may have had some local retail sales, but I think they were probably producing enough to sell some volume to the wholesale market that would then leave the area.

Going by what KR's daughter had to say about her father's participation in the weed economy, I don't see him or CR1 as novices who would settle for only messing with local retail sales.

I think it is possible that the Eury op could have been uncovered by the Rhoden investigation.

Possible that both producers were selling product to the same broker(s) and that being a manner in how law enforcement learned about the Eurys.

Also possible that an investigation pre-dated the Rhoden murders and could have bearing on the Rhoden and Eury events that put them into the news.

All purely speculation.

One could have nothing to do with the other beyond shared geography.

One of my speculative thoughts was that locals working cooperatively were able to threaten some portion of the market controlled by others. For example, as individual growers they may get a take it or leave it price from whomever moves and packages stuff for sale. Working together they might be able to take on some aspects themselves, such as transportation to market. This would also provide some greater ability to hold out for the best price from competing bidders. In a wholly extra-legal market-place, buyers and dealers maintain market share by force.

 

[Margo/Mom]

Thanks Rsd! Maybe it has to do with financing to list the banks name also? Vaults, vault doors & even elevators can be purchased on ebay..

--Dr. Know

I am wondering about structuring or laundering cash. Selling drugs is pretty much a cash operation. Up in Columbus a few years back there was a bust with millions hidden in the walls of the house. Not very practical. Casinos provide another option for a quick wash. Or, if someone on the bank's inside was agreeable, I would imagine that there are other options for turning the cash into something more portable. Just thoughts.

 

[Ray Pate]

Gif::I still have my theory nailed down and in no way does my theory involve ,weed growths,cartels,cars or fights or
any other distraction..If I coveyed my theory out in the open,. I would be laughed to scorn. But if you heard it,,your
interests would be in high gear.Sooner or later someone is going to supply me with an outlet that will make my
theory legal to discuss. Until then,read and observe..jmo