OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #21

[grow73]

I cannot understand why girls in the last two generations do so much bed hopping. And the guys are just as bad. That's why they are stressing having both genders get the HPV vaccine. And, at age 12! I have four grandbabies in the 12-15 age range, and I can't imagine that any of them could be sexually active. I know the 15 year old is wise beyond his years, and says he is not willing to risk his or any girls chance of not being able to finish school and end up getting married and getting a job because they have a baby on the way. He's always been a good kid, and I hope that he sticks with that decision. My SIL was just as bad, e en to this day. She had five kids with five different men. I was just relieved she had a tubal after the youngest was born.

That's quite easy to understand, just look at what they are being exposed to from an early age, everything is sexualized: comercials, music, movies and 90% of the internet. It takes quite a lot of self assurance standing against the pressure, but that assurance is torn down by the same media.

 

[glf]

That's quite easy to understand, just look at what they are being exposed to from an early age, everything is sexualized: comercials, music, movies and 90% of the internet. It takes quite a lot of self assurance standing against the pressure, but that assurance is torn down by the same media.

Very true! When I was approaching school age, I remember the Playtex bra commercial. The lady had on a black turtleneck shirt, and the bra on the outside of her shirt! Nowadays, they show women wearing bra and panty sets on TV, and that's ALL they are wearing! And, they advertise condoms, Viagra, K-Y jelly... I must be desentized to them, because I didn't think about that until you reminded me!

 

[Iona]

You are so right. And the reporters, who of course have more information than they can share with the public, are not letting go of this case, AND are starting to question LE's maneuvers. That tells me everything.

Regarding the latest CG article, what does KR2 know about LE's reason for moving the homes that TR doesn't?

Edit: IMO Reader should've realized that his secrecy eventually would turn peoples eyes on him. Even though he is polite, he's really telling everyone to mind their own business and trust him to deal with his. That trust is wearing thin as time goes by with no results.

Grow73, I am smelling what you are cooking, and I do believe you are on the right track...

 

[Dr. Know?]

This article caught my eye a couple of days ago. Not saying corruption but it's interesting in regards to drug busts in Ross Co. and the Ross Co. Sheriff's department being excluded from secret indictments and arrests.

Sheriff not part of weekend sweep, focusing on county

CHILLICOTHE - In a news conference Monday, the Chillicothe Police Department released results of a weekend sweep that included assistance from several local, state and federal agencies, but notably missing from that group was the Ross County Sheriff's Office.

Sheriff's Office Lt. Mike Preston said Sheriff George Lavender talked to Chillicothe Police Chief Keith Washburn about the special detail, but Lavender felt the police department had enough personnel involved and his resources could be better used in the county. Washburn declined to comment for the story.

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...-part-weekend-sweep-focusing-county/90700144/

 

[Dr. Know?]

I meant to add that it could also be due to upcoming elections.

 

[Dudly]

I cannot understand why girls in the last two generations do so much bed hopping. And the guys are just as bad. That's why they are stressing having both genders get the HPV vaccine. And, at age 12! I have four grandbabies in the 12-15 age range, and I can't imagine that any of them could be sexually active. I know the 15 year old is wise beyond his years, and says he is not willing to risk his or any girls chance of not being able to finish school and end up getting married and getting a job because they have a baby on the way. He's always been a good kid, and I hope that he sticks with that decision. My SIL was just as bad, e en to this day. She had five kids with five different men. I was just relieved she had a tubal after the youngest was born.

It isn't really just the last two generations. My first Ex has four kids with three fathers. My second ex has three kids with three fathers. The youngest of those kids are in their 30s. My eldest daughter has two kids with two fathers and has never been married. But, I agree, it does seem to be getting worse. The "first comes marriage" is a thing of the past for a lot of the younger people.

 

[grow73]

Grow73, I am smelling what you are cooking, and I do believe you are on the right track...

I'm afraid my soup is rather thin, and we need to get some meat on that bone. Starvation generates a lot of creative and possible poisonous cooking... (I think this is as far I'm able to stretch the cooking analogy. )

 

[rsd1200]

I think perhaps now would be a good time for LE and DeWine to hold a good interview and give us SOMETHING. Election time is approaching quickly. Just occurred to me, what IF Reader does not get elected? Where does that leave this case?

Just had a thought. Maybe that's what they're waiting on. They spill a bit of stuff, or, arrest a suspect close to election time, and the AG and SR, are almost a shoe in at the polls.

 

[Iona]

I'm afraid my soup is rather thin, and we need to get some meat on that bone. Starvation generates a lot of creative and possible poisonous cooking... (I think this is as far I'm able to stretch the cooking analogy. )

Lol! Thanks!Needed that laugh!!![emoji23]

 

[rsd1200]

JW already got custody of Sophia, this was a campain for the lawyer bills. He was going for 20 000, but gave up at 1175? Some rich uncle might have passed away, or the lawyer waived the bill, but we all know those things never happen. Anyway, he is obviously not the father of Kylie.

Maybe he's not since he took down the gofundme page, but, this is what he said June 4th, prior to taking the dna test:

Jake Wagner, 23, said there's a 50/50 chance he's Kylie's father. He and Hanna Rhoden dated for nearly three years before they welcomed her half-sister, Sophia, now 2 1/2 years old. If Wagner is her father, that would mean her half-sister would become her full sister.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...s-all-weve-got-left-just-those-kids/85231530/

 

[Meemaw12]

Autopsy report released still some info redacted

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/...BCI/Pike-County-Final-Autopsies-REDACTED.aspx


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[grow73]

Autopsy report released still some info redacted

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/...BCI/Pike-County-Final-Autopsies-REDACTED.aspx


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You see, THIS is how you do it if you follow prosedure. But Reader made the media go to court to get this... But besides looking at what's blacked out, and how much, it doesn't tell me much. All except GR had the same toxicologist, so the amount of blocked out text can tell us that some victims had more text in their tox report than others, but that's about it. Is there a doctor on this plane?

 

[grow73]

Maybe he's not since he took down the gofundme page, but, this is what he said June 4th, prior to taking the dna test:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...s-all-weve-got-left-just-those-kids/85231530/

He said 50/50, according to others it was 33/33/33. I don't think HR would've told CG he was the father unless she was pretty sure, but that is clearly colored by me thinking of her as a straigtforward girl, and that again is formed by the impression she gave on SoMe. So not a fact. Taking oneself out of the equation is the hardest part of sleuthing imo.

 

[grow73]

It isn't really just the last two generations. My first Ex has four kids with three fathers. My second ex has three kids with three fathers. The youngest of those kids are in their 30s. My eldest daughter has two kids with two fathers and has never been married. But, I agree, it does seem to be getting worse. The "first comes marriage" is a thing of the past for a lot of the younger people.

Totally OT, but my great grandmother, born 1902, was daughter of a woman who had 5 kids (maybe more, I really can't remember and I don't want to exaggerate ) with different men, most of the men wanted to marry her, but she refused. Some of the kids ended up in foster care, my ggm included. Guess my gggm was born a little a head of her time. My father (who I don't know) has 6 kids with five women, once he got twins... :-/
Conclusion: People like to get laid, have always liked to get laid, and if you don't take precautions, the world will see living proof of it. ;-)

To be serious, the teen pregnancy trend is also escalating for echonomical reasons, the girls are not presented with much choice in a culture where lack of education and poverty is the rule. It tears me apart browsing all these facebook pages with the young moms in their fragile relationships.


Edit: Wow, I totally dominated this page. I'm so sorry.

 

[rsd1200]

He said 50/50, according to others it was 33/33/33. I don't think HR would've told CG he was the father unless she was pretty sure, but that is clearly colored by me thinking of her as a straigtforward girl, and that again is formed by the impression she gave on SoMe. So not a fact. Taking oneself out of the equation is the hardest part of sleuthing imo.

There's only a six day window of time, for conception, each month. With ultrasounds and such, you can nearly pinpoint the exact date of conception these days. With them dating so long, and him being there at the hospital when the child was born, or at least shortly after, I'd guess that she thought it was fairly likely Edit: that JW was the father, too.

 

[rsd1200]

Totally OT, but my great grandmother, born 1902, was daughter of a woman who had 5 kids (maybe more, I really can't remember and I don't want to exaggerate ) with different men, most of the men wanted to marry her, but she refused. Some of the kids ended up in foster care, my ggm included. Guess my gggm was born a little a head of her time. My father (who I don't know) has 6 kids with five women, once he got twins... :-/
Conclusion: People like to get laid, have always liked to get laid, and if you don't take precautions, the world will see living proof of it. ;-)

To be serious, the teen pregnancy trend is also escalating for echonomical reasons, the girls are not presented with much choice in a culture where lack of education and poverty is the rule. It tears me apart browsing all these facebook pages with the young moms in their fragile relationships.


Edit: Wow, I totally dominated this page. I'm so sorry.

The overall rate of teen pregnancy has steadily dropped over the last couple of decades. We just just have a much larger window into everyone's lives with constant news, reality shows, and the internet. Also, in my era, it was something that was kinda kept quiet. Some of the girls left school when they started "showing", or got married and, Gee, that baby sure looks big and healthy for a premature birth! In 2014, there was an average of about 24 births for every 1,000 adolescent females, but in 1991 the teen birth rate was nearly 62 births for every 1,000 adolescent females.

 

[amauet1]

Just had a thought. Maybe that's what they're waiting on. They spill a bit of stuff, or, arrest a suspect close to election time, and the AG and SR, are almost a shoe in at the polls.

Great! Just Great! To use the death of a family of 8 for elections! My parents used to say "what is this world coming to?" Boy is that an understatement! It seems more and more that "life" is no big thing to people. To me it is the greatest gift on earth to have health, and family. Money is something you need to "survive" not to have "things". Every life should be a "cherished" thing! Ambition, headlines, money, power, these are the things most important to a lot of people these days. Not morals, honesty, love, kindness, looking out for one another. In today's world, everyone is in such a "hurry" for everything. This just makes me so very sad for our world.

 

[glf]

I know when a sonogram is done, they don't say 11 weeks and leave it at that. More likely it will say something like 10 weeks and 5 days. It has almost become an exact science. Sonograms were being done in 1983, but not on a regular basis. When I was pregnant with my 30 year old, I went to the doc and he asked me how far along I was. I told him 8 or 9 weeks. Then when he examined me, he said no, 11 or 12 weeks. But he never suggested a sonogram while I was pregnant, so having a boy was a surprise, as it was with his two older brothers.

 

[Canaille]

No thoughts yet on the autopsy reports??? I can't believe how quiet it is in here. I guess everyone is either trying to absorb it all or are driving home from work. Maybe a stop at the pub on the way home?

 

[amauet1]

Ok, doctors and nurses on here, can you deciper some of the autopsy reports for us? I understand some of it, but would like your opinions of the reports. Thank you.