OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #29

[Bootsctr]

The only proof is that DS said he found a "tray" of them while strolling about the property, after finding his best friend, and cousin, deceased, which then triggered him to call 911. When I think "tray", I think of a tomato plant tray or a flower tray with seedlings in their own little containers, within a "tray".

Yeah, that's what I think too. I think it was rumored to be 100 or 200 plants in the tray? Cannot
remember.

CBS This Morning reported the street value of the marijuana found is nearly $500,000.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/4-possible-motives-in-pike-county-ohio-murders

That is a good chunk of change right there! If someone was angry about the Rhodens growing marijuana I think they would have destroyed the grows too. . . and the tray that was at Kenneth's home.

I don't know who hangs around to count money at a murdered man, but DS is quoted as saying $1000 was strewn around Kenneth's feet. Maybe it was ten $100 dollar bills ? ? ?

Stone claimed that a CCTV system his cousin had recently installed inside the trailer had been removed by the killer and that the dogs, not bred to being friendly to strangers, didn’t raise a paw during the incident.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...e/news-story/1b45bdf93e2acea8da0a4701357cbfb0

I had read there was a camera in a birdhouse at the other scene, but not at Kenneth's home. I think this guy (DS) lies. I feel he absolutely knew about the marijuana grows. If he was comfortable entering Kenneth's home to check on his status and hang around long enough to count money, he knew more than he is saying.

Maybe these folks were producing shatter.

"Shatter is just one form of dabs, the catch-all term for marijuana concentrates produced by extracting cannabinoids like THC and CBD, the plant's psychoactive chemicals, officials say. The term "shatter" comes from the fact that the leftover resin is cooled into a glassy sheet, similar to boiled caramel hardening into candy. That sheet can be shattered into pieces.

Officials investigating the Pike County slayings declined to comment, but Sgt. Greg Morgan with the Hamilton County Sherriff's Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit explained the process of making shatter is similar to the process for making meth, so officials who investigate them wear protective hazmat suits.

Footage from Channel 9 shot on the day of the killings shows people wearing hazmat suits at one of the scenes. "

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

Maybe narcotics were involved too. If anyone had a Rx for pain killers I think LE would look for the Rx bottles. Maybe HMR since she had a C-section was prescribed Vicodin. Any ladies out there who have had C-sections been prescribed pain killers afterwards? And goodness look at LM, he must be in chronic pain with his back and having a steel rod stuck up his spine! I have a friend who has a similar situation with her spine and the hardware in place is very painful. She doesn't take narcos for fun, she genuinely needs them. I think the killers would have liked to have taken out the Manleys too, but just didn't have enough people to kill them.

Maybe pictures were not released of the grows because they didn't want other people getting information on how the grow was set up? Maybe the plants were not destroyed?

Whatever this family was doing they did not deserved to be slaughtered. It is wrong and I hope they are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. And to that note: The wicked flee though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion. Proverbs 28:1

 

[Bootsctr]

I meant to say sun up to sun down on the horse farm operation. I waited too long and now it won't let me edit it. Anyway the horse farm is one that I imagine is hands on and much like a cattle ranch. Lots of work every day.

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[goofyone]

They could be horse poor. With 2000 acres, horses, dogs and hairy pigs, I can imagine that is a farm operation that is run daylight to dawn. Horses are a lot of work. They have to be groomed, exercised, trained and fed. Lots of $$$ involved in keeping the operation up and running.

My problem is the entire family moving and leaving the elderly parents without much needed help to run their ranch. Maybe they have good hired hands? I don't know. Just seems if GW the 3rd is set to inherit the horse ranch he would have stuck around to make sure the operation was being run correctly.

Outsiders who would like a piece of that pie (horse farm) have ways of becoming irreplaceable and taking advantage of elderly folks. Maybe GW the 3rd has a brother that has stepped in. I don't know. It would not surprise me at all that AW was a pot stirrer and very, very controlling. Just my opinion. :moo: :cow:

How do we know they have no help.. lot if assumptions going on ..if it's a successful operation they may have hired help

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[J4cknsal1y]

Yeah, that's what I think too. I think it was rumored to be 100 or 200 plants in the tray? Cannot
remember.



http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/4-possible-motives-in-pike-county-ohio-murders

That is a good chunk of change right there! If someone was angry about the Rhodens growing marijuana I think they would have destroyed the grows too. . . and the tray that was at Kenneth's home.

I don't know who hangs around to count money at a murdered man, but DS is quoted as saying $1000 was strewn around Kenneth's feet. Maybe it was ten $100 dollar bills ? ? ?



http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...e/news-story/1b45bdf93e2acea8da0a4701357cbfb0

I had read there was a camera in a birdhouse at the other scene, but not at Kenneth's home. I think this guy (DS) lies. I feel he absolutely knew about the marijuana grows. If he was comfortable entering Kenneth's home to check on his status and hang around long enough to count money, he knew more than he is saying.

Maybe these folks were producing shatter.

"Shatter is just one form of dabs, the catch-all term for marijuana concentrates produced by extracting cannabinoids like THC and CBD, the plant's psychoactive chemicals, officials say. The term "shatter" comes from the fact that the leftover resin is cooled into a glassy sheet, similar to boiled caramel hardening into candy. That sheet can be shattered into pieces.

Officials investigating the Pike County slayings declined to comment, but Sgt. Greg Morgan with the Hamilton County Sherriff's Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit explained the process of making shatter is similar to the process for making meth, so officials who investigate them wear protective hazmat suits.

Footage from Channel 9 shot on the day of the killings shows people wearing hazmat suits at one of the scenes. "

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

Maybe narcotics were involved too. If anyone had a Rx for pain killers I think LE would look for the Rx bottles. Maybe HMR since she had a C-section was prescribed Vicodin. Any ladies out there who have had C-sections been prescribed pain killers afterwards? And goodness look at LM, he must be in chronic pain with his back and having a steel rod stuck up his spine! I have a friend who has a similar situation with her spine and the hardware in place is very painful. She doesn't take narcos for fun, she genuinely needs them. I think the killers would have liked to have taken out the Manleys too, but just didn't have enough people to kill them.

Maybe pictures were not released of the grows because they didn't want other people getting information on how the grow was set up? Maybe the plants were not destroyed?

Whatever this family was doing they did not deserved to be slaughtered. It is wrong and I hope they are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. And to that note: The wicked flee though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion. Proverbs 28:1

I had a c section almost 6 years ago. I was prescribed pain killers. I personally was not prescribed Vicodin (I am allergic). It has been almost 6 years so I can't be positive but I am almost certain I was prescribed Oxy.


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[Bootsctr]

How do we know they have no help.. lot if assumptions going on ..if it's a successful operation they may have hired help

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Oh absolutely! That was my point, but you are right I should keep my speculation broad as LE has named no suspect.

 

[rsd1200]

When they said a "tray" I assumed it was no bigger than 12" x 24" with seedling plants in it. Why DS would have decided to take a stroll and find them is unbelievable. I think he knew they were there and checked to see if they were taken when KR was shot. I wondered also if he decided some of them should be hidden in his trunk before LE was called. Maybe some cash also. Did LE ever confirm there was cash at KR's house like DS said? I don't recall if they did...

Your thoughts are exactly the same as mine, and no, LE never did confirm that there was any cash at the site. I'm so shocked too. /s There may have been some there though, I tend to think that there was, b/c hearsay had it that DS seemed a bit well-heeled a few weeks later, so I'd not discount that he may have seeded the scene and known where something was kept (you stay out here, XX, you don't need to see this). There are folks who are opportunists, even though they wouldn't commit murder. Old sayin' around here; So and so would steal the pennies off a dead man's eyes.

 

[rsd1200]

This is not about this case, but, again, shows that family will turn on family. Truly awful and they should never walk the streets and free people, again. Not. Ever.

CB and WB's 16-year-old daughter, along with her boyfriend, CE, 22, are facing two counts of murder. CE is also charged with burglary and tampering with physical evidence.

http://www.lex18.com/story/35797341/community-in-shock-after-revelation-in-murder-case

 

[Bootsctr]

I had a c section almost 6 years ago. I was prescribed pain killers. I personally was not prescribed Vicodin (I am allergic). It has been almost 6 years so I can't be positive but I am almost certain I was prescribed Oxy.


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Thank you. Several years ago I used to transcribe C-section discharge summaries and it was quite common at that time to send the mother home with pain meds for the discomfort associated with the operation. I'm sure that has changed now as the powers-that-be are cracking down on prescribing pain meds.

 

[rsd1200]

They could be horse poor. With 2000 acres, horses, dogs and hairy pigs, I can imagine that is a farm operation that is run daylight to dawn. Horses are a lot of work. They have to be groomed, exercised, trained and fed. Lots of $$$ involved in keeping the operation up and running.

My problem is the entire family moving and leaving the elderly parents without much needed help to run their ranch. Maybe they have good hired hands? I don't know. Just seems if GW the 3rd is set to inherit the horse ranch he would have stuck around to make sure the operation was being run correctly.

Outsiders who would like a piece of that pie (horse farm) have ways of becoming irreplaceable and taking advantage of elderly folks. Maybe GW the 3rd has a brother that has stepped in. I don't know. It would not surprise me at all that AW was a pot stirrer and very, very controlling. Just my opinion. :moo: :cow:

BBM
I'm not so sure that GWIII is an only child, and sometimes, if adult children don't do as parents wish, although they're adults, they'll get zip.

I don't think that they're horse poor, it seems they've been in it long enough to know what they're doing, ... but it is a thought. It can happen quick too. Two or three years of drought, w/scarce hay, having to feed your hay early in the season b/c of drought conditions, hard rains the next spring to wash your pasture seed away, and erode your pasture, and you're hit. Some folks got hit hard here a few years back and some good horses went to the yards, or were seized by the Humane Society. It was at the height of the "trail riding" frenzy and folks over bred, and over bought, hoping to get in on the wave. Idk what the conditions in Pike have been but w/2000 acres they could rotate pretty well and I'd guess the majority of theirs are stabled inside with turn out pens.

I can't really put my finger on it for discussion, b/c of TOS, but I don't quite know what to make of the elders.

 

[Dudly]

Yeah, that's what I think too. I think it was rumored to be 100 or 200 plants in the tray? Cannot
remember.



http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/4-possible-motives-in-pike-county-ohio-murders

That is a good chunk of change right there! If someone was angry about the Rhodens growing marijuana I think they would have destroyed the grows too. . . and the tray that was at Kenneth's home.

I don't know who hangs around to count money at a murdered man, but DS is quoted as saying $1000 was strewn around Kenneth's feet. Maybe it was ten $100 dollar bills ? ? ?



http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...e/news-story/1b45bdf93e2acea8da0a4701357cbfb0

I had read there was a camera in a birdhouse at the other scene, but not at Kenneth's home. I think this guy (DS) lies. I feel he absolutely knew about the marijuana grows. If he was comfortable entering Kenneth's home to check on his status and hang around long enough to count money, he knew more than he is saying.

Maybe these folks were producing shatter.

"Shatter is just one form of dabs, the catch-all term for marijuana concentrates produced by extracting cannabinoids like THC and CBD, the plant's psychoactive chemicals, officials say. The term "shatter" comes from the fact that the leftover resin is cooled into a glassy sheet, similar to boiled caramel hardening into candy. That sheet can be shattered into pieces.

Officials investigating the Pike County slayings declined to comment, but Sgt. Greg Morgan with the Hamilton County Sherriff's Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit explained the process of making shatter is similar to the process for making meth, so officials who investigate them wear protective hazmat suits.

Footage from Channel 9 shot on the day of the killings shows people wearing hazmat suits at one of the scenes. "

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

Maybe narcotics were involved too. If anyone had a Rx for pain killers I think LE would look for the Rx bottles. Maybe HMR since she had a C-section was prescribed Vicodin. Any ladies out there who have had C-sections been prescribed pain killers afterwards? And goodness look at LM, he must be in chronic pain with his back and having a steel rod stuck up his spine! I have a friend who has a similar situation with her spine and the hardware in place is very painful. She doesn't take narcos for fun, she genuinely needs them. I think the killers would have liked to have taken out the Manleys too, but just didn't have enough people to kill them.

Maybe pictures were not released of the grows because they didn't want other people getting information on how the grow was set up? Maybe the plants were not destroyed?

Whatever this family was doing they did not deserved to be slaughtered. It is wrong and I hope they are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. And to that note: The wicked flee though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion. Proverbs 28:1

Those were not hazmat suits in the videos from the day of the murders. They were disposable coveralls.They are plastic or plastic coated paper and only used to keep clothes clean.

 

[Bootsctr]

Those were not hazmat suits in the videos from the day of the murders. They were disposable coveralls.They are plastic or plastic coated paper and only used to keep clothes clean.

That is a direct quote from the link. Looks like they are completely covered, but nothing on the face unless they put them on out of sight. Again, I never called them hazmat suits, reporter said they were hazmat suits at the link.



http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

 

[rsd1200]

I meant to say sun up to sun down on the horse farm operation. I waited too long and now it won't let me edit it. Anyway the horse farm is one that I imagine is hands on and much like a cattle ranch. Lots of work every day.

O/T: RSD1200 I love your 4th of July signature! It is AWESOME! Can't wait to see the local firework show! For a small town, they actually have some big fireworks. Picnics and fireworks and families being together, I love it!

O/T too: Thanks! We're going to the one they combine w/the local fair tomorrow, they usually also have a rodeo, or demo derby that night too! We're looking forward to it. Have a happy 4th Boots!

 

[rsd1200]

Yeah, that's what I think too. I think it was rumored to be 100 or 200 plants in the tray? Cannot
remember.



http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/4-possible-motives-in-pike-county-ohio-murders

That is a good chunk of change right there! If someone was angry about the Rhodens growing marijuana I think they would have destroyed the grows too. . . and the tray that was at Kenneth's home.

I don't know who hangs around to count money at a murdered man, but DS is quoted as saying $1000 was strewn around Kenneth's feet. Maybe it was ten $100 dollar bills ? ? ?



http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...e/news-story/1b45bdf93e2acea8da0a4701357cbfb0

I had read there was a camera in a birdhouse at the other scene, but not at Kenneth's home. I think this guy (DS) lies. I feel he absolutely knew about the marijuana grows. If he was comfortable entering Kenneth's home to check on his status and hang around long enough to count money, he knew more than he is saying.

Maybe these folks were producing shatter.

"Shatter is just one form of dabs, the catch-all term for marijuana concentrates produced by extracting cannabinoids like THC and CBD, the plant's psychoactive chemicals, officials say. The term "shatter" comes from the fact that the leftover resin is cooled into a glassy sheet, similar to boiled caramel hardening into candy. That sheet can be shattered into pieces.

Officials investigating the Pike County slayings declined to comment, but Sgt. Greg Morgan with the Hamilton County Sherriff's Regional Enforcement Narcotics Unit explained the process of making shatter is similar to the process for making meth, so officials who investigate them wear protective hazmat suits.

Footage from Channel 9 shot on the day of the killings shows people wearing hazmat suits at one of the scenes. "

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

Maybe narcotics were involved too. If anyone had a Rx for pain killers I think LE would look for the Rx bottles. Maybe HMR since she had a C-section was prescribed Vicodin. Any ladies out there who have had C-sections been prescribed pain killers afterwards? And goodness look at LM, he must be in chronic pain with his back and having a steel rod stuck up his spine! I have a friend who has a similar situation with her spine and the hardware in place is very painful. She doesn't take narcos for fun, she genuinely needs them. I think the killers would have liked to have taken out the Manleys too, but just didn't have enough people to kill them.

Maybe pictures were not released of the grows because they didn't want other people getting information on how the grow was set up? Maybe the plants were not destroyed?

Whatever this family was doing they did not deserved to be slaughtered. It is wrong and I hope they are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. And to that note: The wicked flee though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion. Proverbs 28:1

All good points.


At this point, based on Reader's statement (a couple little pot grows), and their back and forth on number and locations, that they wayyyy overestimated what kind of grows were there, & the sophistication. LE loves to hype the street value. The street value isn't what the grower gets. Lots of time, and care, and ensuring the plants are healthy, no bug infestation, etc... I think they were calling the indoor grow, that tray that DS found. I believe they were getting ready to plant some plants, strategically placed, out in the back forty, after frost danger. Last danger of frost is usually after Mother's Day here. CR1 lived pretty darn close to the road. If they dried and prepped it in that big barn and had very much of it you could smell it from the road w/o any problem most likely.

With GR being a recovering needle addict, it could be possible that he backslid and got mixed up in a deal, or presented one to the other two men, that went south. If it's hard drugs I'd think he'd be most likely to have the connections and if that were the case, it could even link back to Ky. I don't think he'd made a permanent move. There's was a lot of drugs in that county and some who came to buy from CR1 may have had other stuff with them/other connections. That would be very hard for an addict.

It's not just the pot we have no pics of, they've tried to block photos of everything. We've never even seen photos of the Rhoden dogs, and their wonderful new owners, who have taken them into their hearts, and into their homes. Idr how many coon hounds they had back there. No plea from the local shelter for funds b/c of the intake of dogs and game and having to find new homes for them. I guess they just left them on the property til they found homes for them.

 

[rsd1200]

That is a direct quote from the link. Looks like they are completely covered, but nothing on the face unless they put them on out of sight. Again, I never called them hazmat suits, reporter said they were hazmat suits at the link.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

They do call them "hazmat suits". They don't seem to have headgear on though. :thinking: I did a little scanning of the pictures taken by copters that day, and there are no photos of folks in whatever type of suits those are, at any of the other locations. We see these three folks walking into CR1s, yet, I see in the links below, that LE are all around FR/HHG porch, and one seems to be entering the trailer, sans suit, and no protective type suits on anyone around DR's place either. It's also odd to me, seeing the gravity of the situation, that these are the only photos that the copters were able to get. I just don't think so. The media are like sharks. (They'll show horrific wrecks, with locations, photos of cars, etc... and family have not yet been notified, on our local news site.) Maybe I need to get my tinfoil hat out of storage. We know CR1 was awake. It's been said he and GR were found a couple of different ways, with one saying CR1's body was draped with some type of cover. I do believe that this shook Reader. I wonder if we just aren't seeing the photos of the men in white at the other places, or if something was even more significantly different at CR1's place.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/Sta...-Pike-County-victims.html?ci=stream&lp=10&p=1

http://www.smh.com.au/world/seven-p...ing-at-ohio-trailer-park-20160422-godcs0.html

https://goo.gl/images/8d92cw

 

[Dudly]

That is a direct quote from the link. Looks like they are completely covered, but nothing on the face unless they put them on out of sight. Again, I never called them hazmat suits, reporter said they were hazmat suits at the link.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/coul...te-shatter-be-related-to-pike-county-killings

Which is which? A hazmat suit has to be sealed head to toe. There is usually tape around the wrists and ankles. A respirator of some kind is required.

http://www.jondon.com/safety-products/coveralls.html

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XyUAAOSwajVURFNl/s-l1600.jpg

I never claimed you said they were hazmat suits. This was discussed early on and the general consensus was that they were coveralls. It keeps them clean and keeps them from contaminating a crime scene. No one knows for sure...

 

[Dudly]

They do call them "hazmat suits". They don't seem to have headgear on though. :thinking: I did a little scanning of the pictures taken by copters that day, and there are no photos of folks in whatever type of suits those are, at any of the other locations. We see these three folks walking into CR1s, yet, I see in the links below, that LE are all around FR/HHG porch, and one seems to be entering the trailer, sans suit, and no protective type suits on anyone around DR's place either. It's also odd to me, seeing the gravity of the situation, that these are the only photos that the copters were able to get. I just don't think so. The media are like sharks. (They'll show horrific wrecks, with locations, photos of cars, etc... and family have not yet been notified, on our local news site.) Maybe I need to get my tinfoil hat out of storage. We know CR1 was awake. It's been said he and GR were found a couple of different ways, with one saying CR1's body was draped with some type of cover. I do believe that this shook Reader. I wonder if we just aren't seeing the photos of the men in white at the other places, or if something was even more significantly different at CR1's place.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/Sta...-Pike-County-victims.html?ci=stream&lp=10&p=1

http://www.smh.com.au/world/seven-p...ing-at-ohio-trailer-park-20160422-godcs0.html

https://goo.gl/images/8d92cw

CR1's place is the one with very few windows on the front. I've never seen a mobile home made that way. There are normally windows in every room. I've wondered if he took them out and put siding over the openings. LM made a comment something to the effect that it wasn't much more than a roof. I think.
There were pics or video of people in similar suits near a shed out back. They had no head gear either. The suits look very similar unless they wear the yellow suits.
LE may have confiscate media video, too. It sure wouldn't be a surprise...

 

[rsd1200]

CR1's place is the one with very few windows on the front. I've never seen a mobile home made that way. There are normally windows in every room. I've wondered if he took them out and put siding over the openings. LM made a comment something to the effect that it wasn't much more than a roof. I think.
There were pics or video of people in similar suits near a shed out back. They had no head gear either. The suits look very similar unless they wear the yellow suits.


LE may have confiscate media video, too. It sure wouldn't be a surprise...

I remember seeing them back there now that you mention it, but it seems we only saw them at CR1's. His place had the most activity in the beginning though, now that I'm thinking about it after some sleep, this morning. Seems we had more photos of his and FR's place too, iirc (I've not really looked to be positive though). Could be that they waved media off, and, you're right, I'd not be surprised at all if LE confiscated media. Out of all of the people who made it through the perimeter, in the world of cellphones, not one single cell phone vid has popped up either. Not that I'm suggesting they do so, but, there's always those one or two folks... the ones who video and post the crashes on the highway, or go onto the new owner's property, and ignore no trespassing signs, to snag video of the Ws former property. No one has even alluded to having video and I think that the DailyMail pays for that stuff.

 

[Dudly]

I remember seeing them back there now that you mention it, but it seems we only saw them at CR1's. His place had the most activity in the beginning though, now that I'm thinking about it after some sleep, this morning. Seems we had more photos of his and FR's place too, iirc (I've not really looked to be positive though). Could be that they waved media off, and, you're right, I'd not be surprised at all if LE confiscated media. Out of all of the people who made it through the perimeter, in the world of cellphones, not one single cell phone vid has popped up either. Not that I'm suggesting they do so, but, there's always those one or two folks... the ones who video and post the crashes on the highway, or go onto the new owner's property, and ignore no trespassing signs, to snag video of the Ws former property. No one has even alluded to having video and I think that the DailyMail pays for that stuff.

They definitely seemed to be searching more at CR1's place but we may not have any pics of what they did other places. There was a comment about the public not needing to know about something in there. I think they ended up saying it was bed bugs but was it? It's about impossible to know fact from fiction in this case...

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I remember seeing them back there now that you mention it, but it seems we only saw them at CR1's. His place had the most activity in the beginning though, now that I'm thinking about it after some sleep, this morning. Seems we had more photos of his and FR's place too, iirc (I've not really looked to be positive though). Could be that they waved media off, and, you're right, I'd not be surprised at all if LE confiscated media. Out of all of the people who made it through the perimeter, in the world of cellphones, not one single cell phone vid has popped up either. Not that I'm suggesting they do so, but, there's always those one or two folks... the ones who video and post the crashes on the highway, or go onto the new owner's property, and ignore no trespassing signs, to snag video of the Ws former property. No one has even alluded to having video and I think that the DailyMail pays for that stuff.

BBM

But why? Why all the secrecy? Added to no photos, LE Took the crime scenes and locked them up in a warehouse. I think we all went over this before, what was in those trailers that LE was determined the public not see?

Like I said, with what has been released to the public in this case, it would be hard to prove there was even a murder.

Does anyone have any thoughts on why so much secrecy in this case?

I know I am going to get slammed as being heartless again, but we have no proof there was even a murder committed. All we have is hearsay. LE says there was one. LM says there was one. KR says there was one. TR says so, Gr says so. DS says so, ect.

But no photos of bodies removed, no photos of MJ plants being removed, no autopsy reports other than some with little more than names at the top, no leaks from anyone, no EMT's describing the horror of it all, no statements from family of LE or EMT about what those who were on the scene went through. Nothing.

And yes I saw the photos of the caskets. But at the risk of sounding heartless again, there could have been rocks in there for all we know.

I feel like the secrecy of this entire thing is a major clue in itself.

This case is beginning to look a lot like Roswell. Where is Jessie Ventura?

 

[Bootsctr]

They do call them "hazmat suits". They don't seem to have headgear on though. :thinking: I did a little scanning of the pictures taken by copters that day, and there are no photos of folks in whatever type of suits those are, at any of the other locations. We see these three folks walking into CR1s, yet, I see in the links below, that LE are all around FR/HHG porch, and one seems to be entering the trailer, sans suit, and no protective type suits on anyone around DR's place either. It's also odd to me, seeing the gravity of the situation, that these are the only photos that the copters were able to get. I just don't think so. The media are like sharks. (They'll show horrific wrecks, with locations, photos of cars, etc... and family have not yet been notified, on our local news site.) Maybe I need to get my tinfoil hat out of storage. We know CR1 was awake. It's been said he and GR were found a couple of different ways, with one saying CR1's body was draped with some type of cover. I do believe that this shook Reader. I wonder if we just aren't seeing the photos of the men in white at the other places, or if something was even more significantly different at CR1's place.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/Sta...-Pike-County-victims.html?ci=stream&lp=10&p=1

http://www.smh.com.au/world/seven-p...ing-at-ohio-trailer-park-20160422-godcs0.html

https://goo.gl/images/8d92cw

WoW! Thank you! Great pictures on those sites that I have not seen before.

Whose home was this? There looks to be a greenhouse in process or maybe a covering for a vehicle when finished. This case really is starting to make me think Twilight Zone like someone said. The music is playing in my head. Usually when cops make a big bust ($300,000 to $500,000) they are more than happy to show off what was confiscated, but not in this case. It's weird. Very, very weird! Area 51 and Area 52 weird.