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Also Fathers Day is almost here and she lost her father a year ago. Her sister died 06/24/2011.
 
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MittenScarpetta said:
Using ws from my phone the past couple days has been a nightmare. It freezes, double posts, puts words in I didn’t type. Ugh.
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Oh what a fiasco my last post #266 was! The way the editor displayed my paragraphs I couldn't figure why every paragraph was formatted entirely differently?I knew immediately it had to go to the 'posts that should be blown up' heap.

My Opinion :p
 
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Hatfield said:
JMO
The other thing I wanted to add today is if I lived anywhere near there and had a personal connection to ANY of the deceased people I would be moving as quickly and quietly as I could.

At the rate people are turning up dead this may still not be over. Alaska was a good idea but since someone already chose that area I think Hawaii would be my choice. Make it hard for anyone to get me. :)
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Maybe if you live a certain life style.

Oh you did say personal connection.

Still. It’s very concerning over here.
 
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Tssiemer said:
Maybe if you live a certain life style.

Oh you did say personal connection.

Still. It’s very concerning over here.
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The lifestyle. It's as addicting as the dope, imo, and a lot of these young people were raised up in it, and that's what they know, the family business.

I do not want meth heads around me. Period. That stuff is bad, bad, bad.
 
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iridized said:
It makes sense to me that the shot was to the chest. Per her own face book posting ...

Violet Taylor Thanks so much Carla Long and I'm sry to hear that. Ur not the only person who lost someone on July 4 th either. My mom committed suicide July 4th 1989 and even though I was close to turning 6 I remember it like yesterday. I remember her lying in a mud peddle with a whole through her heart. I know I'm not alone but I want u to know neither ru, I will be here for u
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Oh that’s terrible. I never read the comments on that post. That poor girl. She had so much heartache, starting as a little girl.
 
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Regardless of all the factors, there's a standard protocol for declaring someone's death a suicide. Most medical examiners or coroners at least wait for toxicology reports.

Given the recent history of violent deaths in this family and extensive criminal activity in the area, you would think these investigators would want to dot all the i's and cross all the t's.

The coroner should be leading the effort. He can rely on deputies, BCI, etc for help. There's no reason to rush the investigation. DeWine ' s office can call on others to help.

In addition to interviewing family and friends, they need to search Violet's home and car, cell phone, call &message records, social media, etc.

Investigators should be sharing all of this info with her adult next of kin, along with any evidence, reports and personal items belonging to Violet. They should also provide more information to the public, especially the local community. They deserve to be reassured they're not in danger and that a full, professional, thorough death investigation was conducted.

This is all SOP. Family should consider talking to an attorney to help them navigate this process. Maybe an attorney can offer some help pro bono.
 
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rsd1200 said:
The lifestyle. It's as addicting as the dope, imo, and a lot of these young people were raised up in it, and that's what they know, the family business.

I do not want meth heads around me. Period. That stuff is bad, bad, bad.
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The lifestyle. I’ve spoke of this before and can agree that it’s as addicting as dope. Well, idk about being addicted to dope, thank God, but I know about being addicted to the lifestyle. I’ve known a family for 20 years very similar to the Rhodens-minus the gamecocks and demolition derby’s. And large scale MJ ops. I mean if the family I know well, grew it, it wasnt anything to write home about.

Anyways, I think what people misunderstand is that to do better in life, you have to know better. We all are products of what we are raised in. I’m not saying the lifestyle is negative either because honestly some of my best memories in recents years is time I spent with the family I know, just outside of Appalachia. They may not have kept their yards and homes the way I keep mine, but their hearts are big and there was never a dull moment. Anyways, people living this lifestyle don’t know any different than the country way of life. Just as people raised in Orange County or The Hamptons don’t know any better than their life full of opportunities-some of those people don’t know any better than to look down on others not living the same lifestyle.

What we know, is how we live, most times. When you’re born and raised in a small town that offers little opportunity, you work with what you’re given. I come from a family that’s roots are all in Appalachia-on both sides. I have a lot of family still there. My own family was poverty stricken years ago and the reason I am where I am today is because my grandparents were tired of the struggle. A tobacco farmer and a housewife living in a hollow with no electricity isn’t exactly the American dream. But they were happy. Just as the Rhodens & HHG appeared happy. They enjoyed their off road mudding and 4 wheelers. Their country music and laidback lifestyle. Btw, if no one has ever went mudding-you should try it at least once in your life because it’s the most fun you’ll ever have for free.

Anyways, my point is, at the end of the day we are all just people. We all struggle. Although each persons struggles are different-we all still walk through hills and valleys in life. I know you’re well aware of all of this RSD, but I just wanted to again remind people that Appalachia is part of who the Rhodens and HHG were just as each of us carries with us the atmosphere of where we grew up. It doesn’t mean the R’s & HHG were any less than anyone else because their homes weren’t all up to par or they had dynamics that’s some people question. We all have some skeletons in the closet but theirs are on display publicly because evil stole all of their lives. Annnnd that’s my rant and insight for the day lol.
 
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MittenScarpetta said:
The lifestyle. I’ve spoke of this before and can agree that it’s as addicting as dope. Well, idk about being addicted to dope, thank God, but I know about being addicted to the lifestyle. I’ve known a family for 20 years very similar to the Rhodens-minus the gamecocks and demolition derby’s. And large scale MJ ops. I mean if the family I know well, grew it, it wasnt anything to write home about.

Anyways, I think what people misunderstand is that to do better in life, you have to know better. We all are products of what we are raised in. I’m not saying the lifestyle is negative either because honestly some of my best memories in recents years is time I spent with the family I know, just outside of Appalachia. They may not have kept their yards and homes the way I keep mine, but their hearts are big and there was never a dull moment. Anyways, people living this lifestyle don’t know any different than the country way of life. Just as people raised in Orange County or The Hamptons don’t know any better than their life full of opportunities-some of those people don’t know any better than to look down on others not living the same lifestyle.

What we know, is how we live, most times. When you’re born and raised in a small town that offers little opportunity, you work with what you’re given. I come from a family that’s roots are all in Appalachia-on both sides. I have a lot of family still there. My own family was poverty stricken years ago and the reason I am where I am today is because my grandparents were tired of the struggle. A tobacco farmer and a housewife living in a hollow with no electricity isn’t exactly the American dream. But they were happy. Just as the Rhodens & HHG appeared happy. They enjoyed their off road mudding and 4 wheelers. Their country music and laidback lifestyle. Btw, if no one has ever went mudding-you should try it at least once in your life because it’s the most fun you’ll ever have for free.

Anyways, my point is, at the end of the day we are all just people. We all struggle. Although each persons struggles are different-we all still walk through hills and valleys in life. I know you’re well aware of all of this RSD, but I just wanted to again remind people that Appalachia is part of who the Rhodens and HHG were just as each of us l carries with us the atmosphere of where we grew up. It doesn’t mean the R’s & HHG were any less than anyone else because their homes weren’t all up to par or they had dynamics that’s some people question. We all have some skeletons in the closet but theirs are on display publicly because evil stole all of their lives. Annnnd that’s my rant and insight for the day lol.
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Excellent, excellent post. (Especially the mud :D )
 
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flute4peace said:
Excellent, excellent post. (Especially the mud :D )
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I promise, if you’ve never done it, it should be on your bucket list cause it’s a downright blast.
 
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Betty P said:
Regardless of all the factors, there's a standard protocol for declaring someone's death a suicide. Most medical examiners or coroners at least wait for toxicology reports.

Given the recent history of violent deaths in this family and extensive criminal activity in the area, you would think these investigators would want to dot all the i's and cross all the t's.

The coroner should be leading the effort. He can rely on deputies, BCI, etc for help. There's no reason to rush the investigation. DeWine ' s office can call on others to help.

In addition to interviewing family and friends, they need to search Violet's home and car, cell phone, call &message records, social media, etc.

Investigators should be sharing all of this info with her adult next of kin, along with any evidence, reports and personal items belonging to Violet. They should also provide more information to the public, especially the local community. They deserve to be reassured they're not in danger and that a full, professional, thorough death investigation was conducted.

This is all SOP. Family should consider talking to an attorney to help them navigate this process. Maybe an attorney can offer some help pro bono.
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What’s odd though is they’re not even saying “appears to be self inflicted pending tox and investigation”. We see murder suicides all of the time on here. I Just followed a case last month where a mother killed her self and her 3 kids. The community was freaking out wondering if a killer was on the loose-LE & the coroner were quick (within 2 days) to reassure the public that that they didn’t believe there was anything to be worried about and the murder weapon was found next to a victim.

I also followed a case recently where a well loved and well known member of a community went missing and was missing for over a month. LE dropped the ball, IMO, BUT when she was finally found and an autopsy was done, a statement was released that she died from what appeared to be a suicide, pending toxicology. That info was released because her husband was under suspicion by both the family and the public.

In VR’s case, the suspicion and worry is amplified because of the 8 murders of their family. And we are told nothing except an investigation is under way.
 
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MittenScarpetta said:
I promise, if you’ve never done it, it should be on your bucket list cause it’s a downright blast.
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Oh I'm right there with you. Had a '71 Bronco that wasn't happy if you could see any paint. Man I miss those days. Now it's just the minivan on the dirt road behind the house...
 
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iridized said:
Also Fathers Day is almost here and she lost her father a year ago. Her sister died 06/24/2011.
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Her sister died? Is that JME?
 
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MittenScarpetta said:
The lifestyle. I’ve spoke of this before and can agree that it’s as addicting as dope. Well, idk about being addicted to dope, thank God, but I know about being addicted to the lifestyle. I’ve known a family for 20 years very similar to the Rhodens-minus the gamecocks and demolition derby’s. And large scale MJ ops. I mean if the family I know well, grew it, it wasnt anything to write home about.

Anyways, I think what people misunderstand is that to do better in life, you have to know better. We all are products of what we are raised in. I’m not saying the lifestyle is negative either because honestly some of my best memories in recents years is time I spent with the family I know, just outside of Appalachia. They may not have kept their yards and homes the way I keep mine, but their hearts are big and there was never a dull moment. Anyways, people living this lifestyle don’t know any different than the country way of life. Just as people raised in Orange County or The Hamptons don’t know any better than their life full of opportunities-some of those people don’t know any better than to look down on others not living the same lifestyle.

What we know, is how we live, most times. When you’re born and raised in a small town that offers little opportunity, you work with what you’re given. I come from a family that’s roots are all in Appalachia-on both sides. I have a lot of family still there. My own family was poverty stricken years ago and the reason I am where I am today is because my grandparents were tired of the struggle. A tobacco farmer and a housewife living in a hollow with no electricity isn’t exactly the American dream. But they were happy. Just as the Rhodens & HHG appeared happy. They enjoyed their off road mudding and 4 wheelers. Their country music and laidback lifestyle. Btw, if no one has ever went mudding-you should try it at least once in your life because it’s the most fun you’ll ever have for free.

Anyways, my point is, at the end of the day we are all just people. We all struggle. Although each persons struggles are different-we all still walk through hills and valleys in life. I know you’re well aware of all of this RSD, but I just wanted to again remind people that Appalachia is part of who the Rhodens and HHG were just as each of us carries with us the atmosphere of where we grew up. It doesn’t mean the R’s & HHG were any less than anyone else because their homes weren’t all up to par or they had dynamics that’s some people question. We all have some skeletons in the closet but theirs are on display publicly because evil stole all of their lives. Annnnd that’s my rant and insight for the day lol.
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Great Post.

I learned from a young age to never look down on others and be thankful for whatever you have. I am so so glad that I never lost those values. Some of my best friends growing up through high school were from very poor families but they were the "real people" that I always liked the best.

I will have to try "mudding" someday. I've been off road a few times but never experienced a real "mudder" type experience. LOL I know it would be a blast. :)
 
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MittenScarpetta said:
The lifestyle. I’ve spoke of this before and can agree that it’s as addicting as dope. Well, idk about being addicted to dope, thank God, but I know about being addicted to the lifestyle. I’ve known a family for 20 years very similar to the Rhodens-minus the gamecocks and demolition derby’s. And large scale MJ ops. I mean if the family I know well, grew it, it wasnt anything to write home about.

Anyways, I think what people misunderstand is that to do better in life, you have to know better. We all are products of what we are raised in. I’m not saying the lifestyle is negative either because honestly some of my best memories in recents years is time I spent with the family I know, just outside of Appalachia. They may not have kept their yards and homes the way I keep mine, but their hearts are big and there was never a dull moment. Anyways, people living this lifestyle don’t know any different than the country way of life. Just as people raised in Orange County or The Hamptons don’t know any better than their life full of opportunities-some of those people don’t know any better than to look down on others not living the same lifestyle.

What we know, is how we live, most times. When you’re born and raised in a small town that offers little opportunity, you work with what you’re given. I come from a family that’s roots are all in Appalachia-on both sides. I have a lot of family still there. My own family was poverty stricken years ago and the reason I am where I am today is because my grandparents were tired of the struggle. A tobacco farmer and a housewife living in a hollow with no electricity isn’t exactly the American dream. But they were happy. Just as the Rhodens & HHG appeared happy. They enjoyed their off road mudding and 4 wheelers. Their country music and laidback lifestyle. Btw, if no one has ever went mudding-you should try it at least once in your life because it’s the most fun you’ll ever have for free.

Anyways, my point is, at the end of the day we are all just people. We all struggle. Although each persons struggles are different-we all still walk through hills and valleys in life. I know you’re well aware of all of this RSD, but I just wanted to again remind people that Appalachia is part of who the Rhodens and HHG were just as each of us carries with us the atmosphere of where we grew up. It doesn’t mean the R’s & HHG were any less than anyone else because their homes weren’t all up to par or they had dynamics that’s some people question. We all have some skeletons in the closet but theirs are on display publicly because evil stole all of their lives. Annnnd that’s my rant and insight for the day lol.
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I definitely have my skeletons... but, I was speaking only to the addiction to the lifestyle of the drug culture. It's a very high adrenaline world.

I've lived poor. It made me strong. I'd not change those years at all.
 
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MittenScarpetta said:
What’s odd though is they’re not even saying “appears to be self inflicted pending tox and investigation”. We see murder suicides all of the time on here. I Just followed a case last month where a mother killed her self and her 3 kids. The community was freaking out wondering if a killer was on the loose-LE & the coroner were quick (within 2 days) to reassure the public that that they didn’t believe there was anything to be worried about and the murder weapon was found next to a victim.

I also followed a case recently where a well loved and well known member of a community went missing and was missing for over a month. LE dropped the ball, IMO, BUT when she was finally found and an autopsy was done, a statement was released that she died from what appeared to be a suicide, pending toxicology. That info was released because her husband was under suspicion by both the family and the public.

In VR’s case, the suspicion and worry is amplified because of the 8 murders of their family. And we are told nothing except an investigation is under way.
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They did say that they did not believe it to be related to the murders of her kin. I think they're just being extra careful, getting tox screens, and such, before actually calling it a suicide.
 
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