OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #34 *Arrests*

[Betty P]

Gary’s father, Kenneth Rhoden, passed away last month.

Kenneth Rhoden

Yes, we posted some tributes to him back then. Poor man passed without getting answers about who killed his family.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Yes, we posted some tributes to him back then. Poor man passed without getting answers about who killed his family.

That was probably when I took a break from WS for a moment. I apologize for the double post. I saw it elsewhere earlier and decided to share. May he Rest In Peace. He has the answers he needed now and he’s reunited with those he lost.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Using google map I see something at 50 Bell Hollow Rd. Latham. Let me figure out if it has cabins.

Well Mitten I see you were on the ball as usual and you have posted the winning answer. Congratulations & good work.

Thank you

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Something to think about. Why HMR, 2 shots? I think the shot locations, after learning some of them, spoke more to me than the number, especially w/DR, and learning of the muzzle being right against GR. I think they may have tried to point LE in a specific direction, through the way some were shot, and by something purposely left behind. I don't know what, but there's a reason they took those trailers. This was brutal. I'm not related to these folks, don't even live in the state, but it's still too close.

I’ve wondered the same. I think it could be a few different things. Perhaps different shooters at SR’s and/or more than one shooter at DR’s. Could two people have entered Dana’s, one going to HMR’s room, the other going to DR’s room, this CRjr heard shots and hid. I would special speculate that the same person shot both jr. and DR.

OR, it depends on which theory one is looking at. Was there anger towards DR, thus the reason for 5 shots to her w/one being under her chin AND remorse for HMR? Is it possible whoever shot HMR just couldn’t make themselves keep pulling the trigger?

Why 5 shots to HHG’s face, w/one being to the eye? But FR was shot 3x laying right next to her.

Maybe that was one of the killer(s) goals-to make absolutely no sense in their shooting patterns and cause even more confusion. All JMO.

 

[ilovepierre]

What's with the varying number of shots per victim? Was the shooter or shooters trying to send a message to whoever? Or were they just shooting until their guns were empty?

OT: my country legalized marijuana today and it's all everyone is talking about.

 

[rsd1200]

I think that more than one, was shot in the eye, too.

KR shot 1
HMR 2
GR, and FR, 3x each
CR2 4x
DR & HHG 5x each
CR1 9x (Head and body)

Coroner said that head shots were all fatal. It was said that CR1 was deceased longest. I think that GR was shot first, but just out-lived CR1 for a bit (Sorry, but, as in, just passed away a bit after CR1 did, they may have noticed he was still breathing, hence additional shots). I think that may possibly have been the case, too, in some of the victims, no sign of life, no more shots, or one shooter may not have been as confident as the other(s).

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I think that more than one, was shot in the eye, too.

KR shot 1
HMR 2
GR, and FR, 3x each
CR2 4x
DR & HHG 5x each
CR1 9x (Head and body)

Coroner said that head shots were all fatal. It was said that CR1 was deceased longest. I think that GR was shot first, but just out-lived CR1 for a bit (Sorry, but, as in, just passed away a bit after CR1 did, they may have noticed he was still breathing, hence additional shots). I think that may possibly have been the case, too, in some of the victims, no sign of life, no more shots, or one shooter may not have been as confident as the other(s).

I believe atleast HHG was shot in the eye. IIRC, that was listed in one of the recent articles published regarding the unredacted preliminary autopsies.

 

[Betty P]

I’ve wondered the same. I think it could be a few different things. Perhaps different shooters at SR’s and/or more than one shooter at DR’s. Could two people have entered Dana’s, one going to HMR’s room, the other going to DR’s room, this CRjr heard shots and hid. I would special speculate that the same person shot both jr. and DR.

OR, it depends on which theory one is looking at. Was there anger towards DR, thus the reason for 5 shots to her w/one being under her chin AND remorse for HMR? Is it possible whoever shot HMR just couldn’t make themselves keep pulling the trigger?

Why 5 shots to HHG’s face, w/one being to the eye? But FR was shot 3x laying right next to her.

Maybe that was one of the killer(s) goals-to make absolutely no sense in their shooting patterns and cause even more confusion. All JMO.

After reading about the preliminary AR's, especially the murders of KR and HHG, I'm fairly convinced there were at least two killers with different methods.

Someone posted back a page or so ago that their autistic daughter listened to her discussing the case and said the killers were scared. That's a very astute observation, JMO. I've always thought one of the shooters was jumpy and shot victims multiple times if they made a move of any kind. So, at least one experienced killer with self control and a second one who was also experienced, but jumpy.

I also think the poster's daughter was also right about the killers being afraid because it's the reason they killed so many innocent people. They felt someone in the Rhoden family was a serious threat to them and others in their organization. They took extreme measures for fear of being killed by someone higher up in the food chain or of going to prison for life. The killers were accountable to much more powerful and dangerous folks than themselves.

 

[Betty P]

That was probably when I took a break from WS for a moment. I apologize for the double post. I saw it elsewhere earlier and decided to share. May he Rest In Peace. He has the answers he needed now and he’s reunited with those he lost.

Probably was. No harm in mentioning Mr. Rhoden's passing again, though. I felt so badly for the guy, he seemed like a very decent fellow who had to bear unimaginable sorrow and grief.

 

[PlainJane1]

Or maybe someone was jealous that DR got a new trailer? Jealousy can be a terrible thing!

Long time lurker here with my first post. I love to read all of your posts and have learned so much from all of you.

This crime has haunted me since the day I first heard of it. Out of curiosity I drove 2 hours to UHR a few weeks ago to check out the sites where the three trailers once stood. (I was very respectful—no pictures and did not get out of my car. I said a prayer that those murdered would all Rest In Peace.) I was absolutely surprised at how beautiful DR’s homesite was. The homesite was so tidy and someone has continued to mow and take care of the lawn. The driveway was nicely paved and the barn off to the side was huge and in great shape. The land was picturesque and backed up to woods. I’m sure DR, HR & CR Jr enjoyed sitting back a bit from the road and the privacy between them and their neighbors. It was so different from the site of the other two trailers. I’m sure DR was so proud to have called it home for her last month of life. Seeing how much her home life had improved, it would not surprise me if jealousy was a huge factor in this tragedy.

My other comment would be that my father was in a nursing home the last few years of his life and I saw firsthand how hard the nurse’s aides work to care for their patients. To think that DRs last few hrs on earth were spent working so long and so hard makes me very sad.

 

[MizStery]

Welcome Plain Jane what a thoughtful first post. I loved your description of DRs,HMR &CRjr lawn your description of the landscape with flowers and well maintained yard spoke highly of the pride DR took with the yard of her home.I appreciate the special trip you made to pay respects to UHR where they made their homes,

MizStery pleaese post your link (paraphrased)when you can to the news story about the Candy and Mykal Newsome murders in Lucasville, OH 4 months prior to the Rhoden murders. It's possible HR worked with or knew of a fellow employee who was a victim of the murder, IIRC. I'll look, too.

If you have not watched Ellie Merritt's investigative video then this will be hard to follow.Unfortunately the YouTube video I posted has been heavily edited.If you are interested my post is #409
NBC4 WCMH-TV Columbus

I believe the lights came on for me when I read from Betty's post:

There are two assisted living/convalescence homes in Lucasville Edgewood Manners I & I. HMR and Candy Newsome worked for the same company which owned both Edgewood Manner I and II.

HMR worked at Edgewood Manners I according to her obituary. Ellie Merritt in the video summary of her investigation did not indicate which assisted living building Candy Newsome worked at Edgewood Manner I or II.(paraphrase)But she did say Candy had previously been apprehended for selling OxyContin.

Both Edgewood Manor I and II are right next door to BBL

When I read of DRs fears;I knew in my heart what my biggest fear would be. It would be that my son were in danger of engaging in something so dangerous it very well could put put his life in danger.

In post 401 Altojack puzzles over what DR was crying about at work the night of the murders. I can't help but question in my mind if a business relationship had been severed. I also can't help but wonder if the straw that broke the camels back was when DR fought to prevent HMR from getting in something over her head.

DR was begging in prayer for protection against someone powerful. It's just a theory but it's possible it was,' every mother's biggest fear that her child would make a mistake that they could never recover from'. Perhaps she realized her family were perceived as a threat or of no further usefulness and there was no authority but God to help them.

Theory and My Opinion Only

 

[MizStery]

he shows HMR as sending a last text message, at 12:40 a.m.

This would imply that not only was DR awake but also HR. I think we have always assumed both HR and CR2 were asleep.

Who was HR texting?

Wouldn't we love to know. However, knowing how my kids and grandkids are, she could've texted her Mom to bring her something, or just to ask her a question. No telling at this point. We know the murders had to occur after DR's last FB post, but HMR could've dozed off by then, too.

Alto Jacks post #401 really prompted me to look at my Timeline. He astutely recalls the people at the assisted living reported DR talking on her cell crying.

I have on my timeline these text messages from DR and HMR. And I have a hinky feeling of 'what it could have been about'. But then all of us have our own thoughts on the events immediately leading to the murders. I am no more in the know than any of you!

I have on record ALL the last know persons who 'claim knowledge of the victims that evening' i.e. Those claiming plans or having conversations with reporters or who were the last to exchange text/cell/post to social media are on the 'cross hairs' of my radar. I attempt to not stray too from from my timeline. It's full of scratches and scribbles and names no one could read it but me. It's kind of my own 'quick & dirty' shorthand for random clues & usually links.I am a linear critical thinker I have to have my notes.

I will just take time to single out a special thanks to Ellie Merritt from Cleveland Ohio TV News Station for the investigative video she shared. Kudos to Ellie!

34 threads and I' m not going anywhere and I am fortunate to have a whole lot of caring people as company that aren't going to give up either.

Just My Opinion

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Welcome Plain Jane what a thoughtful first post. I loved your description of DRs,HMR &CRjr lawn your description of the landscape with flowers and well maintained yard spoke highly of the pride DR took with the yard of her home.I appreciate the special trip you made to pay respects to UHR where they made their homes,



If you have not watched Ellie Merritt's investigative video then this will be hard to follow.Unfortunately the YouTube video I posted has been heavily edited.If you are interested my post is #409
NBC4 WCMH-TV Columbus



When I read of DRs fears;I knew in my heart what my biggest fear would be. It would be that my son were in danger of engaging in something so dangerous it very well could put put his life in danger.

In post 401 Altojack puzzles over what DR was crying about at work the night of the murders. I can't help but question in my mind if a business relationship had been severed. I also can't help but wonder if the straw that broke the camels back was when DR fought to prevent HMR from getting in something over her head.

DR was begging in prayer for protection against someone powerful. It's just a theory but it's possible it was,' every mother's biggest fear that her child would make a mistake that they could never recover from'. Perhaps she realized her family were perceived as a threat or of no further usefulness and there was no authority but God to help them.

Theory and My Opinion Only

BBM

puzzles over what DR was crying about at work the night of the murders.
Didn't DR's co-worker report that when DR got the phone call she started crying and told the co-worker "I made a mistake"? I thought I read that "I made a mistake" comment somewhere. I have always wondered what that phone call and her saying she made a mistake was about. It implies that she was responsible for the outcome of whatever drama was going on.

Did she make a mistake in arguing with JW at the hospital or allowing him to come over to sit up the crib? Or was her mistake in barring CG from the hospital?

Could the mistake have been more of a personal nature i.e. as in her having a relationship with someone else then ending it because she intended to reconcile with CR1?

DR was begging in prayer for protection against someone powerful.

The person she was afraid of doesn't have to be someone rich or powerful. Many people are terrified of their ex-spouses. Just ask any abused wife. Sometimes people enter your life that are so evil it leaves you with nightmares for the rest of your life, if you survive that is. Abused spouses and their families pray for protection from the evil that is in their lives all the time. It's in the news everyday almost. Parents, family members, friends on the news saying "I always knew he/she would do something like this, but I prayed it would never happen" after a loved one is murdered.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Long time lurker here with my first post. I love to read all of your posts and have learned so much from all of you.

This crime has haunted me since the day I first heard of it. Out of curiosity I drove 2 hours to UHR a few weeks ago to check out the sites where the three trailers once stood. (I was very respectful—no pictures and did not get out of my car. I said a prayer that those murdered would all Rest In Peace.) I was absolutely surprised at how beautiful DR’s homesite was. The homesite was so tidy and someone has continued to mow and take care of the lawn. The driveway was nicely paved and the barn off to the side was huge and in great shape. The land was picturesque and backed up to woods. I’m sure DR, HR & CR Jr enjoyed sitting back a bit from the road and the privacy between them and their neighbors. It was so different from the site of the other two trailers. I’m sure DR was so proud to have called it home for her last month of life. Seeing how much her home life had improved, it would not surprise me if jealousy was a huge factor in this tragedy.

My other comment would be that my father was in a nursing home the last few years of his life and I saw firsthand how hard the nurse’s aides work to care for their patients. To think that DRs last few hrs on earth were spent working so long and so hard makes me very sad.

Welcome!!!!

 

[Betty P]

BBM

puzzles over what DR was crying about at work the night of the murders.
Didn't DR's co-worker report that when DR got the phone call she started crying and told the co-worker "I made a mistake"? I thought I read that "I made a mistake" comment somewhere. I have always wondered what that phone call and her saying she made a mistake was about. It implies that she was responsible for the outcome of whatever drama was going on.

Did she make a mistake in arguing with JW at the hospital or allowing him to come over to sit up the crib? Or was her mistake in barring CG from the hospital?

Could the mistake have been more of a personal nature i.e. as in her having a relationship with someone else then ending it because she intended to reconcile with CR1?

DR was begging in prayer for protection against someone powerful.

The person she was afraid of doesn't have to be someone rich or powerful. Many people are terrified of their ex-spouses. Just ask any abused wife. Sometimes people enter your life that are so evil it leaves you with nightmares for the rest of your life, if you survive that is. Abused spouses and their families pray for protection from the evil that is in their lives all the time. It's in the news everyday almost. Parents, family members, friends on the news saying "I always knew he/she would do something like this, but I prayed it would never happen" after a loved one is murdered.

How long prior to the murders had the custody battle with JW begun? Anyone remember?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

How long prior to the murders had the custody battle with JW begun? Anyone remember?

I believe it was speculated to be 2 weeks prior. I have nothing to back that up with besides my own memory of public conversations. I do remember LM stating something in an interview or maybe I’m remembering wrong. I’ll have to go look at his interviews again.

 

[lstiff]

BBM

puzzles over what DR was crying about at work the night of the murders.
Didn't DR's co-worker report that when DR got the phone call she started crying and told the co-worker "I made a mistake"? I thought I read that "I made a mistake" comment somewhere. I have always wondered what that phone call and her saying she made a mistake was about. It implies that she was responsible for the outcome of whatever drama was going on.

Did she make a mistake in arguing with JW at the hospital or allowing him to come over to sit up the crib? Or was her mistake in barring CG from the hospital?

Snipped by me for space:

Lurker of this thread, longtime WS member. Just reading this post from a fresh set of eyes makes me wonder if she had confronted someone who she thought HMR was involved with and realized that was a mistake? I know plenty of moms who wouldn't think twice about confronting someone they thought was a danger to their children or family. Obviously that usually doesn't end the way this did but just a thought.

JMO from a fresh perspective.

 

[rsd1200]

Anyone heard what other campground CR1 worked for?

Chris Sr. worked for resort owner RW at this and another campground for more than 20years.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cantonrep.com/article/20160427/news/304279993?template=ampart

 

[ilovepierre]

Anyone heard what other campground CR1 worked for?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cantonrep.com/article/20160427/news/304279993?template=ampart

Was BBL the other one?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Anyone heard what other campground CR1 worked for?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cantonrep.com/article/20160427/news/304279993?template=ampart

Did possibly he work for Long’s Retreat as well?