Haven't posted in forever, but have quietly lurked in the background, checking in on all the cold and new cases... Beyond overjoyed to see arrests in this case! While I always believed JW was involved, possibly with his brother and/or a friend as an accomplice, I didn't expect to learn that Dad, Mom, and the Grannies were in on it - holy carp! Sick, sick family.
I'd be interested in others' views as to the "code" they adhered to during these brutal senseless murders, which appeared to be that no children were to be killed in the attacks. The waiting until HR gave birth, in my view, was not because the baby could possibly be JW's, as they spared the other 2 who were no relation to them. No. It appears that in their sick & twisted minds, they told themselves that the killing of children (including very likely being strong opponents of abortion) was a bar too low, despite the fact that they were willing to cause lifelong unimaginable trauma to these children by killing their loved ones in their presence and robbing them of a parental relationship! Or could it be that they convinced themselves that they were actually "saving" these children from something??
Regardless, there is NOTHING the R family could have done - or the Wagner's imagined that they'd done - that could ever-ever come close to justifying these acts of pure evil that the Wagner's committed against them. And yet the Wagner's saw themselves as the better people and parents of children! Wow.
How did an entire family jointly, with no descenders, dehumanize and vilify a family to a degree and level that these acts of evil vengeance were even momentarily considered to be an option? I can wrap my head around one or even two people in a family having severely warped thinking, but the whole family? Did any of them have friends outside of their family or were they isolated among themselves? And, if the latter is true, that tells me that there are some very deep dark family secrets in the Wagner family's background...
First, I believe throughout their married life they had a sense of entitlement.
Second, Angela was dirt poor if information about her mother’s living conditions are correct. Angela made the choice many poor teens do, join the military. This is where I strongly believe the “ precision, well planned, carefully executed traits originated. I believe she was the author of the plan.
Third, I believe the plan began and was perfected right at their dining room table. It might have been in writing. The plan was divided into 4 sections with each Waggie having responsibility for identifying, filling and procuring each item needed to fill their part.
Fourth, as far as the guns and ammo, I thing George III procured those. He would not have procured locally but driven as far away as possible to find them. Part of the plan was to have backup weapons I I think there were 8-10 firearms prepared for use that night.
Fifth. I believe Angela and Jake and perhaps George 4 set up the surveillance on the computers. I think Jake did some of the installation when he set up the crib for the baby. Although by that time it could have been to fix a glitch. The Waggies should have been pretty far into their plan by then.
Sixth, the boys documented every single electronic device the Rhodens owned. They mapped the trail cams, identified whether each cam was wireless, required batteries for operation And exactly the quality range and specs of each camera.
Seven, there is a John Doe named in the indictment included in the portion about Fredericka and Rita. Doe may have played several roles in this crime. It’s also probable he was paid for his services. Part of what he did was to teach the Waggies everythingbthey needed to know about hacking.
No one in their right mind would consciously get involved in this bizarre plan, but this is one of the roles Doe could have played. It’s possible Doe had a high level set of computer skills and instructed Jake and George 4 exactly how to turn every electronic device the Rs owned into a reverse monitoring system. Similar to
blackmailers who do it online to obtain money.
As a side thought, Doe could have created the final forged documents allegedly signed by Hanna Rhoden giving Jake Custody. I’m using Doe as a fill in because there is no info about him other than his identifier. It could have been anyone. A student of Rita’s, an employee of Flying WS, just about anyone.
Each phone, computer and even smart tv could have been used to monitor anything the Rhodens did, said it spoke with. Their personal phones and a GPS app could have been the method used to track exactly where they each were, where they had meals, cared for pot plants and most important to the plan where and with who each of them slept.
I’ll finish this later. Need coffee. 40 here in Las Vegas and I’m cold.
There was most likely many practice runs. The floor plan if each trailer could easily been laid out on sny is arch of grass. Paintball guns could have been substituted for live weapons during practice.
I think Angela would have been happy once the practices were perfect.
I need Doe help with something I can’t get square in my mind.
Why was CRSR killed first And was noticeably more decomposedthanthe others?
Which body do you think was moved. Was it more than one? Was The CRSR kIlled off site perhaps lured somewhere then transported back to his trailer.
It’s said he was shot through a door. Nothing I’ve seen identifies which door. But he was dead longer than the others.
