OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #36 *Arrests*

[MittenScarpetta]

I didn’t say any of that did happen only saying explanations a defense could give. I didn’t realize we should only say yes this is absolutely evidence that points to guilt.

A mixture of blood from a fight a week or so prior would only prove more motive for the prosecution. That shows there was bad blood between the Rhoden’s and the Wagner’s, no pun intended. If I’m a juror, that’s not painting a good picture of the defense.

 

[CIA Team Member]

Exactly they were great friends for a long time. I am saying that unless multiple victims blood or Gary or Kenny’s blood the defense could easily lie. There is plenty of evidence to prove how close the two families were.

Noting in a post-arrest article the local barber (??) stated "everyone knew the R's and W's did not get along...." (paraphrasing) Certainly, at one point they were friends but through time, things changed, significantly.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Exactly they were great friends for a long time. I am saying that unless multiple victims blood or Gary or Kenny’s blood the defense could easily lie. There is plenty of evidence to prove how close the two families were.

You’d still have to prove verifiable dates, times, and reasons why the Rhodens would have been in the Wagner’s vehicle, bleeding none the less. And then you better pray to God it wasn’t Kenny or Gary’s blood or Hannah Hazel’s that was found because then it gets a little harder to come up with a cover story.

 

[Myland]

A mixture of blood from a fight a week or so prior would only prove more motive for the prosecution. That shows there was bad blood between the Rhoden’s and the Wagner’s, no pun intended. If I’m a juror, that’s not painting a good picture of the defense.

the one I would have a problem not having reasonable doubt on would be Kenny if his blood was found in car.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I didn’t say any of that did happen only saying explanations a defense could give. I didn’t realize we should only say yes this is absolutely evidence that points to guilt.

BBM
I didn’t realize we should only say yes this is absolutely evidence that points to guilt.

Everyone is entitled to run out a theory on here. Everyone is welcome to post their theory either pro or con Wagner. We all speculate and post theories. We have for 2 1/2 years. And we all love to read different opinions and theories.

But if what you are posting is just a theory or speculation on your part then it would be a great help to add JMO (Just my opinion) at the end of your post.

If it is something from a news article then post the link to that article so we can all run over and read it ourselves.

I understand from your posts that you are trying to give the W's the benefit of the doubt and that is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

JMO

 

[Myland]

But at

Noting in a post-arrest article the local barber (??) stated "everyone knew the R's and W's did not get along...." (paraphrasing) Certainly, at one point they were friends but through time, things changed, significantly.

at the local Walmart multiple people are saying there is no way the Wagner’s did it. So see u hear both ways

 

[MittenScarpetta]

the one I would have a problem not having reasonable doubt on would be Kenny if his blood was found in car.

I’d have a problem believing why any of the victims’ blood would have been present in a vehicle owned by the Wagner’s at the time of the murders that was sold 6 months after the murders.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Exactly they were great friends for a long time. I am saying that unless multiple victims blood or Gary or Kenny’s blood the defense could easily lie. There is plenty of evidence to prove how close the two families were.

That is a great point. If they were long time friends then yes CR1 may have been in the W's vehicle and it is possible he could have scratched or cut himself while riding in said vehicle.

But I think with all the blood that certainly had to be at the 4 crime scenes there would be blood on the killers feet and that blood tracked into a vehicle would have been a mix of some or all the victims.

JMO

 

[Myland]

BBM
I didn’t realize we should only say yes this is absolutely evidence that points to guilt.

Everyone is entitled to run out a theory on here. Everyone is welcome to post their theory either pro or con Wagner. We all speculate and post theories. We have for 2 1/2 years. And we all love to read different opinions and theories.

But if what you are posting is just a theory or speculation on your part then it would be a great help to add JMO (Just my opinion) at the end of your post.

If it is something from a news article then post the link to that article so we can all run over and read it ourselves.

I understand from your posts that you are trying to give the W's the benefit of the doubt and that is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

JMO

Thank you I didn’t realize I needed to do that. I will put that with the posts I make without support I can share.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

But at

at the local Walmart multiple people are saying there is no way the Wagner’s did it. So see u hear both ways

The local Walmart chatter isn’t verifiable evidence obtained by LE, the FBI, and the AG.

My neighbors have opinions about me but that doesn’t mean they’re accurate.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

People of Walmart?

 

[Myland]

That is a great point. If they were long time friends then yes CR1 may have been in the W's vehicle and it is possible he could have scratched or cut himself while riding in said vehicle.

But I think with all the blood that certainly had to be at the 4 crime scenes there would be blood on the killers feet and that blood tracked into a vehicle would have been a mix of some or all the victims.

JMO

I agree completely. Would the bci wait a year and half to make arrest if mixture of blood found in the car they sold? I am just wondering if that is normal.

 

[Myland]

People of Walmart?

yes locals of the county’s opinions. Not many gathering places in pike co

 

[Owutatangledweb]

AW’s post selling the vehicle 6 months after the murders.

Angela Wagner

She's doesn't off-road, but look at all the mud under the tires. Liars in every imaginable way. Lol.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I agree completely. Would the bci wait a year and half to make arrest if mixture of blood found in the car they sold? I am just wondering if that is normal.

They would if they wanted to make sure they dotted every single I and crossed every single T on a 52 page indictment.

 

[Damarna]

@Myland, what is your theory about who killed this family? I'm truly interested. It seems you have some insight - possibly a local? Know the people involved? I'm not asking you to out yourself if you are. That's not expected. I'm just hoping you an expand on your posts a bit more.

 

[CIA Team Member]

yes locals of the county’s opinions. Not many gathering places in pike co

Those you've spoken with or overheard discussing: What are their opinions? What HAVE been their opinions up until the arrests? Just curious. TY.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

THEY were watched, didn’t stay long enough to be truly trusted. And they were involved with some fringe groups.

(I respectfully shortened your post.)
Is Fredericka's church that sits on her property associated with the same fringe groups?

 

[Myland]

@Myland, what is your theory about who killed this family? I'm truly interested. It seems you have some insight - possibly a local? Know the people involved? I'm not asking you to out yourself if you are. That's not expected. I'm just hoping you an expand on your posts a bit more.

JMO bigger than custody

 

[gizmobtj]

I’ve seen the same comments throughout this case.

The first indicator I have is the hundreds of social media comments clearly identifying a well known group of WAGGIE famiky, friends and employees who have been commenting on their innocence. Many posters have identified authors as friends, family,employees and even the Waggies themselves.

And it’s possible that there is someone here. Posters on WS are smart and see right through 99% of bologna. If Waggies or fakers post here they are identified pretty fast.

And if the prosecution needs one defendant to plea to make the other cases fine. But one way or another all the facts, the kill order, the mastermind, down to every blood spatter pattern will be revealed. The residents of the State of Ohio will demand it. All of us need to understand this crime In order to process the after effects. And to understand how

George III
ANGELA
George IV and
Jake

Can all appear so normal, go about normal business, and “own” two grandchildren under ten.

They moved to my community in Kenai, shopped at the regional Walmart and the smaltown grocery. They ate at McDonalds and bought ice cream at the DQ.

THEY were watched, didn’t stay long enough to be truly trusted. And they were involved with some fringe groups. And while most wont understand this, a year in Alaska isn’t a fraction enough to truly succeed. I think they all realized that Alaska is truly a beautiful place.

Nothing is handed to anyone, it takes dedication andvsone very hard work to live well in Kenai. But if you have that work ethic and strong determination the rewards are incredible.

The WAGGIES weren’t enough to create a good life. Their sense of superiority and entitlement got them no where in Kenai. If anything it worked against them.

They ran back to Ohio when things got tough. That says it all.

Interesting. I am curious about what type of fringe groups they associated with in Alaska.

Do you have anymore information on that?