OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #7

[creepcrusher]

This.
Also, I think it's possible that Kenneth was a pit stop on the way to the larger Rhoden property. Stop by, get information about how to disable the cameras and whatnot at the larger property, take the keys from him, kill him.

IMO I see Kenneth being killed first. He's alone in a camper. Less risk of waking others. I'd imagine after completing the huge massacre they'd want to get the heck out of the county. That's a whole lot of gunfire to be heard by neighbors.

 

[birpu]

yes, the maps were helpful, it's the narrative that is the issue.

I know. Slipped up there. I figured it out as soon as the post disappeared. Which was remarkably fast, btw. We are keeping you busy....

 

[K.L.Puyallup]

Does this talk of politics really have a place in this thread?
I understand the viewpoints, but not sure if it adds to the discussion. It's distracting.

 

[VicVixvi]

I'm really confused (imagine that). I think I got the relationships of one another down in my head and then a post or posts come along that I then twist it all around again, so if someone would please be so kind to tell me how the 3 deceased family members - Chris Sr, Kenneth and Gary are related, I'd greatly appreciate it. TIA

Here is a visual that was released by the AG that describes it precisely.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ystery-of-the-ohio-slayings-that-left-8-dead/

 

[cady]

I know that you guys are gonna get mad at me, but I really don't care about how to grow pot. Nothing against pot, at all, just don't care about its cultivation. Clearly,it has been determined that there were 3 sites of the grow operation, so it must have been commercial. I still cannot see how some dispute in the family over the enterprise is enough of a reason to murder 8 people. That takes any benefits from the cultivation away from those 8, but also blows the whole operation and future profits and eventually puts people in prison for the rest of their lives. What was the point ????? JMO

 

[KKearns]

I'd actually not heard him called that until your post. I agree with you about sticking to the given names and/or initials to avoid confusion. I was simply explaining my opinion that it was a nickname.

Yeah it has been used several times.

*I'm looking at you CARIIS..*

 

[creepcrusher]

I know that you guys are gonna get mad at me, but I really don't care about how to grow pot. Nothing against pot, at all, just don't care about its cultivation. Clearly,it has been determined that there were 3 sites of the grow operation, so it must have been commercial. I still cannot see how some dispute in the family over the enterprise is enough of a reason to murder 8 people. That takes any benefits from the cultivation away from those 8, but also blows the whole operation and future profits and eventually puts people in prison for the rest of their lives. What was the point ????? JMO

I totally agree on the family dispute thing over pot. However I do have a feeling BM's daily chores may have been to water the plants and not feed the animals. Jmo.

 

[KKearns]

You gotta admit his maps are awesome, though.

The map visuals are great.

 

[K.L.Puyallup]

I know that you guys are gonna get mad at me, but I really don't care about how to grow pot. Nothing against pot, at all, just don't care about its cultivation. Clearly,it has been determined that there were 3 sites of the grow operation, so it must have been commercial. I still cannot see how some dispute in the family over the enterprise is enough of a reason to murder 8 people. That takes any benefits from the cultivation away from those 8, but also blows the whole operation and future profits and eventually puts people in prison for the rest of their lives. What was the point ????? JMO

The cannabis grow operation may very well be at the center of this case. Size, methodology, crop schedules, potential distribution methods and channels, etc. might all be pertinent. On the other hand, it could be completely irrelevant, but I'm all for leaving no stone unturned.
(Ps- definitely not mad. Love what you contribute )

 

[dayna769]

Quick map I started working on. If anyone would like me to add any locations, lmk.
I can also add images to the markers, if that would be helpful for anyone.

Your map is not correct. None of the pins are where they should be. Google Maps doesn't have the correct places so you can't rely on that.

 

[Betty P]

Okay, photos currently numbered 22 & 23 in the (currently) 42 photo slideshow at this link are aerial photos of what I presume is the travel trailer location where Kenneth was located.

I've tried to post the two photos directly, but am experiencing my usual technical difficulties.



http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...enge-our-hearts-pike-co-family-says/83517330/

ETA: I'm trying to get the hang of this, too, to post in the Media/Timeline thread. I've noticed news sites vary in how they post images. Some are easy to link to, others hard.

Right click - View image - opens it up in another screen
Right click - copy image location
Back to WS, click on insert image, choose URL option, paste URL.

 

[K.L.Puyallup]

Your map is not correct. None of the pins are where they should be. Google Maps doesn't have the correct places so you can't rely on that.

Thank you! Do you know where I should look for addresses that translate properly on google maps? I'll delete my map until I get it right. I don't want to distribute misinformation.

 

[KKearns]

CARIIS, that is not correct that police don't tell people to arm themselves.

Also I think some of this needs to be discussed as it pertains here because misinformation is being passed around as fact.

 

[mrssmith23]

I know that you guys are gonna get mad at me, but I really don't care about how to grow pot. Nothing against pot, at all, just don't care about its cultivation. Clearly,it has been determined that there were 3 sites of the grow operation, so it must have been commercial. I still cannot see how some dispute in the family over the enterprise is enough of a reason to murder 8 people. That takes any benefits from the cultivation away from those 8, but also blows the whole operation and future profits and eventually puts people in prison for the rest of their lives. What was the point ????? JMO

Competition. JMO. I'm not sold on it being family involved. Unless family was involved with another source of competition. Or it wasn't about the pot at all and it was about wanting the money, knowing the money that's been saved, knowing it's enough to live on for a long while. There is pretty much something to shoot down every theory. JMO.

 

[carbuff]

Or someone who serves the killers as a guide because they know the family, the grounds, and the dogs. JMO

And then maybe the guide/inside information person was killed to keep them from snitching?

 

[JaimeInLA]

I wish we knew the last time anyone saw Kenneth alive.

 

[KKearns]

I know that you guys are gonna get mad at me, but I really don't care about how to grow pot. Nothing against pot, at all, just don't care about its cultivation. Clearly,it has been determined that there were 3 sites of the grow operation, so it must have been commercial. I still cannot see how some dispute in the family over the enterprise is enough of a reason to murder 8 people. That takes any benefits from the cultivation away from those 8, but also blows the whole operation and future profits and eventually puts people in prison for the rest of their lives. What was the point ????? JMO

There is never any reason to murder anyone.

Remember, motive and a good reason are different things.

 

[tlcya]

EDIT: Removing this map until it's correct. It's in the works

Once you are satisfied with it please alert the post you link it in. I will add it to the opening post for convenient location later and you may want to add it to the MEDIA thread as well - same reason. Thanks so much for tackling the mapping

 

[KKearns]

Deleted because some posts are disappearing..

 

[gngr~snap]

IMO I see Kenneth being killed first. He's alone in a camper. Less risk of waking others. I'd imagine after completing the huge massacre they'd want to get the heck out of the county. That's a whole lot of gunfire to be heard by neighbors.

If he was normally out working on cars at 5:30 am, it sure sounds like his TOD was before that, doesn't it?
I know once my husband gets started working on them there is plenty proof in the event he was interrupted. IMO KR never made it out of his camper/trailer that morning.
JMO

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