Found Alive OH - Rainn Peterson, 2, North Bloomfield, 2 Oct 2015 - #2

[AmyPond]

IMO, even if Brandie's labs would have shown no drugs and everything at her home completely checked out, she would still have been held responsible had Rainn disappeared on her watch. That's a shame.

I think a child could possibly run off on ANY parent's watch. Kids are crazy like that. But...while some parents really try their best to put safe guards in place and watch their kids....others, do not. If it's one of THOSE types of parents, then yeah...I am more likely to have bad thoughts about them. I'm a human. So for me, it's pretty easy to have varying feelings about different people. I can't place ALL parents into the same box.

Also, you don't have to be on drugs to be a crappy parent. I've known quite a few people who aren't on drugs but if their kid ran off on their watch...then yeah, I'd blame them because I know what kind of parent they are.

 

[tamild]

IMO, even if Brandie's labs would have shown no drugs and everything at her home completely checked out, she would still have been held responsible had Rainn disappeared on her watch. That's a shame.

IF Brandi had no history of drugs
AND her home checked out
AND Rainn went missing in the evening, still daylight, dinner hour
AND Brandi's story was that she was busy preparing dinner when Rainn went missing
AND she called 911 after doing a search around the property
AND she knocked on neighbor's doors looking for Rainn
then YES, I would've believed her story and assumed Rainn simply slipped out the door, as kids have been known to do.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

Rainn is in the hands of medical professionals. If there were any toxicological cause for her reported hallucinations I am pretty confident we would have heard about it by now.

You think? I think that this police team and investigation has been kept pretty professional and I don't think we would hear anything about that until there was an arrest of some kind. She's a minor and her medical info might be kept very quiet. Only guardians would be able to agree to what should go out to media, I would think. Maybe GGP's don't want that kind of thing going out. I don't know that I necessarily agree that Rainn was drugged either, but I don't think we would know that unless something big cracked in the case.

 

[ZhaZhaHa]

I can't help but wonder what the attitude of LE, children's services, and WS posters would be had Rainn gone missing in the exact same manner and same place but under Brandi's watch?

Considering she has had a past with narcotic use and child endangerment charges, I think people would think Brandi was fully responsible. I still think there is a reason the baby left her GGP's home. I don't think she just left. I think she followed someone out.

 

[Hatfield]

Considering she has had a past with narcotic use and child endangerment charges, I think people would think Brandi was fully responsible. I still think there is a reason the baby left her GGP's home. I don't think she just left. I think she followed someone out.

I have to agree. Its the nature of things and reputations are hard to change.

Its an interesting theory that she may have followed someone out of house.

 

[tlcya]

You think? I think that this police team and investigation has been kept pretty professional and I don't think we would hear anything about that until there was an arrest of some kind. She's a minor and her medical info might be kept very quiet. Only guardians would be able to agree to what should go out to media, I would think. Maybe GGP's don't want that kind of thing going out. I don't know that I necessarily agree that Rainn was drugged either, but I don't think we would know that unless something big cracked in the case.

We live in the era of the oh so vocal "unnamed source close to the investigation"

It is much harder to keep things quiet nowadays (JMO) because people seem to be in such a hurry to leak what they know in recent years.

 

[Cardinal47]

I have never thought the GGP could not do it but always wondered why they were in charge of three small children.

As I understand it there is one mother and two dads which gives us three sets of grandparents. Then it jumps to the GGP.

They have to be in their 60's and wanting to slow down a bit.

I know a lot of grandparents are raising children whose parents aren't able to due to drugs and alcohol.

But this one skipped a whole generation going to the GGP.

Now..if the GGP raised druggies and now the parents are druggies I would have to question if these three children are being raised in a suitable environment.

This would be strike three!

 

[ILOKAL]

I didn't realize they were that old. Sorry but 74 and 75 year olds should not have to raise three little children 2,3 and 4.

In my younger days I watched one of my daughters children two days a week. One at a time. SIL brought them at 10, they took a nap and my daughter, a teacher, picked them up at 3:30.

We were all in with the last one. I can't imagine having three little ones 24/7 plus all the drama of Brandee.

I used to watch my daughter with them and she had soooo much more energy and did so many interesting things.

God Bless those GGP's.

It should be obvious (and hopeful) to everyone that this placement is temporary and, hopefully, short-term. It's one thing to "keep up" with three little ones when they're not in school, but once school and activities begin, that's a whole other story and a new set of energy the GGPAs haven't seen in decades!

 

[katydid23]

IMO, even if Brandie's labs would have shown no drugs and everything at her home completely checked out, she would still have been held responsible had Rainn disappeared on her watch. That's a shame.

If Brandi passed her drug tests and nothing was found in the home then I don't think she would have been blamed. JMO

 

[ILOKAL]

If Brandi passed her drug tests and nothing was found in the home then I don't think she would have been blamed. JMO

I would like to think that would be the case, but I have serious doubts :-(

 

[katydid23]

I would like to think that would be the case, but I have serious doubts :-(

She has a serious problem with her recent past history to overcome. Why shouldn't she be looked at with extra scrutiny? She has been irresponsible and negligent in the past and everyone will take that into account until she has time to overcome those doubts.

I hired a teen girl to watch my kids occasionally. One time I found out, after my kids were having horrible nightmares, that she was watching scary movies, like the bride of Chuckie, with them. [age 2 and 6] And she had her boyfriend over, which was blatantly against my strict rules about boyfriends being there. I fired her and NEVER hired her again.

When I found out my neighbor was using her as a babysitter, I called her and told her what had happened. Why wouldn't I do that? Shouldn't her past behavior be an important thing to note. I felt bad about it but I cared more for the safety of the 3 yr old girl that I did about the feelings of the teen babysitter.

My point is, why shouldn't someone be held under more scrutiny and suspicion if they do something irresponsible and harmful?

 

[ILOKAL]

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Did I read (during the last two days) that Brandie had custody of all three children up until the time Rainn went missing?

 

[katydid23]

Did I read (during the last two days) that Brandie had custody of all three children up until the time Rainn went missing?

Brandi said that to a reporter but it was not true, AFAIK. The GGP's had temporary custody because last year the baby was left in a car under negligent drug related circumstances. She was charged with child endangerment and drug charges.

 

[EllieBee]

Here's the October 7th article that says BRANDIE had custody:

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/07/temporary-custo/?print

She did NOT have custody just prior to Rainn's "disappearance". She SAID she did. But that was a lie. Because druggies lie.

And the courts have spoken. They awarded custody to the GGPs.

 

[ILOKAL]

She did NOT have custody just prior to Rainn's "disappearance". She SAID she did. But that was a lie. Because druggies lie.

And the courts have spoken. They awarded custody to the GGPs.

So that article is completely and totally wrong and hasn't been corrected? Not that it would be the first time that had happened.

 

[Roxie Rosa]

I have never thought the GGP could not do it but always wondered why they were in charge of three small children.

As I understand it there is one mother and two dads which gives us three sets of grandparents. Then it jumps to the GGP.

They have to be in their 60's and wanting to slow down a bit.

I know a lot of grandparents are raising children whose parents aren't able to due to drugs and alcohol.

But this one skipped a whole generation going to the GGP.

Now..if the GGP raised druggies and now the parents are druggies I would have to question if these three children are being raised in a suitable environment.

This would be strike three!

are you saying then that parents and grandparents actually raise druggies? I tend to believe you only have so many years to instill values and behaviour in kids....after that, it is the childs decision if they wish to get involved with the drug scene. If parents are at fault, why then do three or four kids in the same family, not have a drug...or any other problem for that matter, and one child does?

 

[Karinna]

From my understanding of this situation Rainn's GGP's had temporary custody of all 3 children after Brandi's charges. I would imagine that being temp. custody that at some stage Brandi would of filed for custody of her children again once she did the work necessary to facilitate that. As per recent court hearing GGP's still retain custody for now, and Brandi has visitation until any further court hearings that might change her children's living arrangements.
As far as GGP"s ages, i would think that they are fit enough to be the children's caretakers or other arrangements would of had to have been made.

 

[ILOKAL]

From my understanding of this situation Rainn's GGP's had temporary custody of all 3 children after Brandi's charges. I would imagine that being temp. custody that at some stage Brandi would of filed for custody of her children again once she did the work necessary to facilitate that. As per recent court hearing GGP's still retain custody for now, and Brandi has visitation until any further court hearings that might change her children's living arrangements.
As far as GGP"s ages, i would think that they are fit enough to be the children's caretakers or other arrangements would of had to have been made.

As per the recent court hearing, the GGPAs didn't "retain" custody (at least of Rainn) because at the time of the hearing children's service had custody. They were awarded temporary custody of Rainn and her 3-yo brother at that hearing. This article, published just the day before yesterday

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/07/temporary-custo/?print

Says Brandie had custody of all three of her children at the time Rainn disappeared. The question is, is that article correct? If not, why hasn't it been corrected?

 

[Jo in Calif]

As per the recent court hearing, the GGPAs didn't "retain" custody (at least of Rainn) because at the time of the hearing children's service had custody. They were awarded temporary custody of Rainn and her 3-yo brother at that hearing. This article, published just the day before yesterday

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/07/temporary-custo/?print

Says Brandie had custody of all three of her children at the time Rainn disappeared. The question is, is that article correct? If not, why hasn't it been corrected?

It is unclear if the mother also had legal custody of the 4-year-old.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/07/temporary-custo/?print
Not sure if she had custody of all three of her children or not.

 

[ILOKAL]

It is unclear if the mother also had legal custody of the 4-year-old.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/07/temporary-custo/?print
Not sure if she had custody of all three of her children or not.

Notice it is referred to as a "shelter hearing" to determine the new temporary custody arrangement for Rainn and her 3-yr old brother.