OH OH - Roberta 'Bobby' Snider, 70, Hartville, 4 Jan 2018 *Guilty*

[watergirl62]

If he left Graceland/Days Inn at 3:30 am, it’s about a 2 hr drive to that bridge, so he’d hit it around 5:30-6am. Wonder how much traffic would be going thru there at that time? Around me (suburban area), if it’s a weekday rush hour would be starting, so plenty of traffic. But is that bridge in a more rural area? And was it a weekday (5th) or weekend (6th)? That could make a difference.

Okay, so it could be feasible. Sorry if I missed this discussion. Honestly (ironically) my ST memory is so bad I may have read it and forgot. [emoji52]

 

[watergirl62]

Things I’d like to know are, did they travel much and if so did they they always take his pickup truck on vacation? Did they have a car? This is an 11 hour drive from Hartville to Memphis. Seems like a long, uncomfortable ride for a woman whose’s terminally ill.
If she died along the way, and he’s saying he wrapped her up in trash bags, where exactly did he wrap up her body and how? Out in a parking lot somewhere in the bed of his truck?






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Good questions. Vehicle: We will take truck if we travel together, I will take small car if just me, but an old full-size luxury car would be most comfortable for travelling in, and they very well could still own one they bought years ago.

Maybe she died at home, and it was so close to her birthday he took her anyways?No idea.

 

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Things I’d like to know are, did they travel much and if so did they they always take his pickup truck on vacation? Did they have a car? This is an 11 hour drive from Hartville to Memphis. Seems like a long, uncomfortable ride for a woman whose’s terminally ill.
If she died along the way, and he’s saying he wrapped her up in trash bags, where exactly did he wrap up her body and how? Out in a parking lot somewhere in the bed of his truck?






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Many trucks are now very comfortable and have back seats just like cars. Without knowing what kind of truck it is, we can't really say it would be uncomfortable, as they are just as comfortable as cars these days.

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[osu]

Many trucks are now very comfortable and have back seats just like cars. Without knowing what kind of truck it is, we can't really say it would be uncomfortable, as they are just as comfortable as cars these days.

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Thanks. Very true. I didn’t think about it being a newer truck with a King cab.


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[MelmothTheLost]

If she died at home, I can't think of any reason why he would take her on a road trip and throw her off a bridge. Why not just call her doctor, family, etc, and do it the normal way, have her cremated etc? It's what she wanted after all, to be cremated and her ashes to be returned to earth in some way. Why would he instead decide not to cremate her and throw her in a river? It makes no sense. It would also be much more difficult for him to accomplish rather than let professionals deal with the dead weight of a corpse. And for what purpose? Imo she did not die at home.

That would be fairly easy to determine - just bring in cadaver dogs to the house. If she died there they would detect that.

Same if her body had been in the back of the vehicle.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I don't think he'd have the guts to just "burn" her body.

I'm not convinced he would have had the wherewithal to do so. It's a lot harder than people think*. Creating an open air funeral pyre that would allow for complete destruction of a body is a complex process - and one that even Hindus in India, with thousands of years of practice, don't generally manage completely.

* (Not speaking from experience, you understand)

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Here’s a picture of the bridge there from google maps. The ‘railing’ is low.

It looks to me to be about level with the bottom of the windows in the vehicle up ahead, so 3 feet high at least.

In terms of hoisting her body up to and over the top, I can't decide whether rigor mortis would make that easier or harder.

One rule of thumb is 12-12-12, ie 12 hours to set in fully, 12 hours in full, rigor and then 12 hours for it to gradually resolve.

If she did die on the way down to Memphis it's difficult to know whether rigor would be active or not by the time he got to the bridge. Its onset and passing tends to be quicker in violent deaths than in natural causes ones, and slower in low temperatures.

 

[Philigumbo]

It looks to me to be about level with the bottom of the windows in the vehicle up ahead, so 3 feet high at least.

In terms of hoisting her body up to and over the top, I can't decide whether rigor mortis would make that easier or harder.

One rule of thumb is 12-12-12, ie 12 hours to set in fully, 12 hours in full, rigor and then 12 hours for it to gradually resolve.

If she did die on the way down to Memphis it's difficult to know whether rigor would be active or not by the time he got to the bridge. Its onset and passing tends to be quicker in violent deaths than in natural causes ones, and slower in low temperatures.

So the height would be perfect to roll her from the bed of a pickup over the railing. Not much lifting at all if he’s close enough. None in fact...

 

[watergirl62]

I notice in Google Earth there is a fair amount of barge/ boat traffic in the river south of I-40. This gives me a modicum of hope that she may be found.

 

[Gussified]

So the height would be perfect to roll her from the bed of a pickup over the railing. Not much lifting at all if he’s close enough. None in fact...

Conveniently, there is a pickup truck passing in another angle. It looks to me like the center barrier is a bit higher than the side (center seems to have an extra extension on top), so I think you’re right. It seems to be about the right height to go from truck bed over railing with little or no lifting.

 

[Knozzmoeking]

First time posting as a new member.
I'm local to this case and this is where I'm at after reading all posts above:

I'm not buying at all that a man of his age disposed of her entire body by stopping on a bridge located on a major highway and maneuvering the body over a railing. To have used the tailgate of the truck to assist him, he would have had to park the truck perpendicular to the railing with the truck sticking out into the right hand lane - very risky and highly doubtful on a major road regardless of the time of day. If he disposed of her body in the river, I would guess it was at another location.

 

[dms]

Maybe there's an access road off one end of the bridge?

 

[watergirl62]

Maybe there's an access road off one end of the bridge?

[emoji322] Welcome to WS [emoji322]

I think it is feasible from the bridge parked parallel to road also.

I thought the same thing about access roads as well, because... Holly Bobo.

There are roads that runs along the river bank on both sides.

 

[dms]

Welcome to WS

Er, thanks? lol

 

[watergirl62]

Er, thanks? lol

Haha, welcome to my brain on tapatalk. That was meant for Knozzmoeking who posted above you, I answered both thoughts in one post. I hope you feel more special now even if you have been here a while. :drumroll:

 

[Steelslady]

First time posting as a new member.
I'm local to this case and this is where I'm at after reading all posts above:

I'm not buying at all that a man of his age disposed of her entire body by stopping on a bridge located on a major highway and maneuvering the body over a railing. To have used the tailgate of the truck to assist him, he would have had to park the truck perpendicular to the railing with the truck sticking out into the right hand lane - very risky and highly doubtful on a major road regardless of the time of day. If he disposed of her body in the river, I would guess it was at another location.

So you are confirming that this area is a high traffic area at all times? Thank you for your helpful post. I was thinking the same thing- it looks to be a busy stretch, and I just don't know how he could have done that without somebody seeing him and getting suspicious. A long, wrapped package being tossed into the river would definitely get my attention!

 

[Gussified]

First time posting as a new member.
I'm local to this case and this is where I'm at after reading all posts above:

I'm not buying at all that a man of his age disposed of her entire body by stopping on a bridge located on a major highway and maneuvering the body over a railing. To have used the tailgate of the truck to assist him, he would have had to park the truck perpendicular to the railing with the truck sticking out into the right hand lane - very risky and highly doubtful on a major road regardless of the time of day. If he disposed of her body in the river, I would guess it was at another location.

Welcome!
To clarify...are you local to Hartville? Or the I 40/tennesssee river area?

 

[Steelslady]

Thank you, watergirl62 and Gussified for the awesome map and photos of that bridge. I just can't see how he managed to dump her body like that without rousing suspicion from people driving by. It's not like a deserted road, that's a main drag. Especially at that time in the morning- that's rush hour traffic time, too many people would have been driving by, it would be hard not to see that it was a body wrapped in those trash bags- something long and thick in the middle. I wonder why the news hasn't shown his truck and the area he claimed to have dumped her, to try and jog people's memory of that morning.

 

[PetDetective]

Thank you, watergirl62 and Gussified for the awesome map and photos of that bridge. I just can't see how he managed to dump her body like that without rousing suspicion from people driving by. It's not like a deserted road, that's a main drag. Especially at that time in the morning- that's rush hour traffic time, too many people would have been driving by, it would be hard not to see that it was a body wrapped in those trash bags- something long and thick in the middle. I wonder why the news hasn't shown his truck and the area he claimed to have dumped her, to try and jog people's memory of that morning.

My guess is it’s because the police know it’s a BS story


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[osu]

I’ve been checking all of the local news sites daily for anything new and there’s been nothing.
FWIW, I messaged a friend who lives right there in town and she said the news trucks have been parked outside his condo every day. Just not talking, I guess?



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