Found Deceased OH - Sierah Joughin, 20, Fulton County, 19 July 2016 #6 *Arrest*

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I'm sure you've all have read everything. I'm just starting and haven't seen the thread posts. Sorry if the things I post have been noted.

Is anyone else worried about the palm print not being an exact match? I hope to God that doesn't F-up prosecution from proving him guilty.

Crsr18, what are your thoughts???

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  • #442
I'm sure you've all have read everything. I'm just starting and haven't seen the thread posts. Sorry if the things I post have been noted.

Is anyone else worried about the palm print not being an exact match? I hope to God that doesn't F-up prosecution from proving him guilty.

Crsr18, what are your thoughts???

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IIRC, the lab reported a tentatively positive match, but requests a better print from Worley to compare. Maybe his palms were too sweaty to get a good sample, lol... Nervous?
 
  • #443
Condoms......bc he's smart and doesn't want to be caught by his seminal DNA.......yet....... leaves a crap load of evidence at the scene......idiot......or we are all missing something........(even if he was thinking he could go back later to collect evidence from the scene, he was dumb to leave it......things still aren't clear.....I'll keep reading......lol

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  • #444
IMO,

JDW works in his own backyard, near it or in his surrounding area. Unlikely to travel much.

And, he does it in the day light hours.

A real creeper!
 
  • #445
I'm sure you've all have read everything. I'm just starting and haven't seen the thread posts. Sorry if the things I post have been noted.

Is anyone else worried about the palm print not being an exact match? I hope to God that doesn't F-up prosecution from proving him guilty.

Crsr18, what are your thoughts???

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I think I read somewhere that they took a second print.

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  • #446
Sleuthers.....can you figure out the rest of the title behind "Countless"?

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  • #447
He does use the computer/internet. I found email addies for him. And no, they were not business emails. FWIW.
 
  • #448
Someone tell me why the chicken cage is needed evidence? For a DNA transfer?

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  • #449
IMO,

JDW works in his own backyard, near it or in his surrounding area. Unlikely to travel much.

And, he does it in the day light hours.

A real creeper!
Couldn't find any usage of his passport. But he bought it for a reason AND it was under his mattress......not normal.......

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  • #450
IMO,

JDW works in his own backyard, near it or in his surrounding area. Unlikely to travel much.

And, he does it in the day light hours.

A real creeper!
Do we need to check the bodies in Canada??

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  • #451
Notnice26 wrote, " Someone tell me why the chicken cage is needed evidence? For a DNA transfer?"

My guess would be that it is thought not to be a cage for chickens but to have held victims. I imagine they are looking for DNA or have information that it was used as part of his torture and harming of victims.

I have been looking at the Countless CD-R. It is a homemade CD so he either burned it himself or got it from someone. If it has illegal images, it would be useful in finding anyone else who may be engaged like the monster. I will continue to explore for it though.
 
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****GRAPHIC****

Rubber glove left at the abduction scene, yet finger/palm prints left as well.......

Tells us that he was trying to not get caught but she was giving him hell!!!! She was f@%king him up!!! She was probably yelling, he needed to tape her mouth closed, unless you're a skilled nurse lol, not many can use tape with rubber gloves on. He takes them off, tapes her mouth. She's still giving him all she can to stop him, he's fighting her, I'm sure his or her blood is now evident on him, he grabs the helmet, bloody palm print, and hits her with it to make her unconscious......

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  • #454
****GRAPHIC****

Rubber gloves left at the abduction scene, yet finger/palm prints left as well.......

Tells us that he was trying to not get caught but she was giving him hell!!!! She was f@%king him up!!! She was probably yelling, he needed to tape her mouth closed, unless you're a skilled nurse lol, not many can use tape with rubber gloves on. He takes them off, tapes her mouth. She's still giving him all she can to stop him, he's fighting her, I'm sure his or her blood is now evident on him, he grabs the helmet, bloody palm print, and hits her with it to make her unconscious......

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Does it say gloveS or glove?
I thought i saw glove.
 
  • #455
The fact that the motorcycle helmet was found on the EAST side of the road? That means she kicked his 🤬🤬🤬 because she was abducted on the WEST side of the road. She fought so hard that somehow his helmet ended up across the street! I still do not understand the logistics of how it was accomplished but I am beginning to think she may have died where she stood. Yes...he had to transport her and such but with the search warrants...they were onto him LESS than 24 hours after she went missing. I think she passed the same night and she was buried that same night. The next night...LE was already watching, he could not have left with her and not been seen. He knew it was a cluster**** when she fought so hard and she ruined all his dark, depraved plans. That makes me feel good...
 
  • #456
He may have been making an exit plan and he may have been panicked, but although getting a passport is relatively easy it is not a fast process at all. It takes about six weeks to get, although you can get expedited processing. I can't remember what all we went through when my husband applied for his. It was a fairly painless process, but it did take six weeks to get. I think expedited processing can make it take as little as 8 days but it does cost more. Even 8 days is too long if one is in a panic about something and needs to leave the country fast.

If getting a passport was related to his nefarious acts, it either represents more forward-planning than we have been giving him credit for OR much less. I am inclined to go with the latter. He seems to think he is very smart, but really isn't.
 
  • #457
Who (or what) is RHS, LV and 73?
RHS my first thought was Rogers High School, not far from Delta, 22 miles maybe. The rest, I don't know.

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  • #458
First time posting. I grew up in Toledo but am now in central OH. My best friend in Toledo moved to Metamora many years ago. She passed away about 10 years ago, but I spent a lot of summers in Metamora as a teen visiting her. Beautiful area. When I first heard about Sierah, I wondered if my friend or her son might know Sierah or her family. Found out recently that they are related. My heart breaks for this beautiful young lady and her family and loved ones. I found WS just after they found Sierah, this place/the members are amazing and dedicated!

So, with that being said, I hope I do this 'quoting thing' correctly:

Actually to me it looks like the whole inventory is repeated like 5 times. Weird.

Dexter I'm sure someone will type it all out in a condensed form in a day or two. Right now, everyone is just reading.

I can't find the seat in the freezer bit, only carpet samples taken from freezer, twice. Are you guys sure? Eta: oh found it!


BBM . Is it because LE had to get several search warrants? It appears that each time they found what they were originally looking for, then found other evidence and had to request more detailed warrants to obtain those items and it states for the LE to return the inventory list using the same heading as the search warrant to the judge to be filed with the clerk of court. Creating lots of duplication in the file if LE needs to keep resubmitting each inventory list with each new search warrant request. i.e. palm print didn't match but was similar enough to ask for a more detailed search.

(another example, fourth paragraph on page 40 no pond search request, but on page 84 including pond search)

(hope I made sense, I have never seen a case file before and was amazed at him having so many guns til
i realized I was reading duplicated inventory sheets)
 
  • #459
Does it say gloveS or glove?
I thought i saw glove.
Yes. Glove you are right, but he left half of his evidence anyway. So he could have taken the other one and burned it, like he likes to do. But the fact that one was there, proves the abduction was not what he had planned. IMO proves he's not as dumb as we thought, still dumb, just not as dumb. Lol And convinces me more that he has A LOT more victims we need to connect to him.

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  • #460
He may have been making an exit plan and he may have been panicked, but although getting a passport is relatively easy it is not a fast process at all. It takes about six weeks to get, although you can get expedited processing. I can't remember what all we went through when my husband applied for his. It was a fairly painless process, but it did take six weeks to get. I think expedited processing can make it take as little as 8 days but it does cost more. Even 8 days is too long if one is in a panic about something and needs to leave the country fast.

If getting a passport was related to his nefarious acts, it either represents more forward-planning than we have been giving him credit for OR much less. I am inclined to go with the latter. He seems to think he is very smart, but really isn't.

That's why I suggested that a woman went missing, or her body was found and he knew he messed up somewhere. I put the disappearance Dec. Jan. Feb. March area because of it taking about 6 weeks to get. SOMETHING happened in that time frame I believe to compel him to get a passport. That's not something your average CUTTER OF LAWNS thinks to get..a passport
 
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