GUILTY OH - Sierah Joughin, 20, Fulton County, 19 July 2016 #9

[Bbybluz]

It is nice to have you join us :welcome:

I don’t know why the documents won’t open, although they were created as adobe docs, it appears. Hope you can see them, because there is a lot of info in them. Maybe smallfry was able to help ... fingers crossed.

Possibly, this page may help you figure it out: https://m.wikihow.tech/View-PDF-Files-on-an-Android-Phone (Acrobat reader help for Android, opening pdf’s)

or this, (which seems more confusing to me) https://www.adobe.com/devnet-docs/rm/android/acrobatandroid_en/open.html


What does “part of research pertaining to "Sierah's Law" mean, If I may ask? Were you a part of helping to write it, doing research on how a law gets made, or .... Just curious, but glad you were able to take part and help out, however you did! :tyou:

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A group of info gatherers for the Bill ;-)

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[MamaP]

Are those documents with the witnesses defense called final? I thought I herd JW brother was going to testify. Will that be for the prosecuting side? I was assuming his sister was going to testify to since they delayed the trial to go to California to talk to her?

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Prosecution actually filed a motion for him to be a witness for them. Couldn’t find any courts docs that actually confirmed or denied that request.

Does anyone want me to post the website and instructions on how to access these files? There are literally hundreds of docs. I only pulled a few that answered some our questions. By 5am I had to try and sleep. :/


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[MamaP]

I don't get this because I have seen the 3 reporters (all female) in the very last row and several times, 2 of them have had ipads/or notebooks out that they were typing on.

Unfortunately some media likes to sensationalize and skip facts for ratings. Not judging anyone that’s just my opinion.

Edgar Allan Poe: Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.


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[Kadoober]

Prosecution actually filed a motion for him to be a witness for them. Couldn’t find any courts docs that actually confirmed or denied that request.

Does anyone want me to post the website and instructions on how to access these files? There are literally hundreds of docs. I only pulled a few that answered some our questions. By 5am I had to try and sleep. :/


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Hi Mama!
I am currently out of town, so I haven't been able to read what you've posted so far, but thank you for posting them!

I would love that link, I will dig into it once I'm home.

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[MamaP]

This is my first posting so please pardon the errors if I make them. I have followed SJ's case since day one & am also part of research pertaining to "Sierah's Law". SJ's loved ones have had my deepest heartfelt prayers from the start.

This site has become not only a support system to my thoughts but an incredible learning devise about trials, LE, procedures, evidence. I have become a fan of a few of you MamaP to mention as one of them. So thank you all for your dedicaton & education you all bring.

Now my question is on MamaP's attachments. I can't seem to access them, is there a trick to it or just not available on android devises? Thanks

Refer to smallfry345 post as to how to open on phone.

Let me put together a little tutorial the best I can.... you will have to access from a computer/laptop to start. Like I said earlier I’m a little foggy (due to lack of sleep) so it might take me a minute to do it. There is just too much for me to post here.

If anyone doesn’t want to access it yourself let me know what you may want me to try and find and I will do my best to find and post here.


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[MamaP]

Bravo, I'm not sure that I've seen the judges response to the latest filing though allowing such in the wonderful PDF's that MamaP has given us. The prosecution has done a great job having the strongest witnesses first (Josh) and last (RG/if so during CIC)

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=131596&d=1521276830
2/17 Judge order snippets


Thereafter, the State provides in its brief "facts" it intends to introduce at trial in an effort to provide proof of the commonality of the actions of the Defendant in this case and in the 1990 conviction. At this point in time, the Court cannot say with any degree of certainty the State has in fact established commonality because testimony regarding the Defendant's alleged actions in this case has not yet been placed into evidence. To rule on the admissibility of the prior conviction without regard to the admissibility of the alleged conduct of the Defendant in this case would be premature and potentially prejudicial. The Court therefore is reserving ruling on the Defendant's Motion in Limine until after the Defense has rested its case. If the Court is satisfied that the State has met its burden as set forth in the McAdory case, the victim of the prior offense shall be allowed to testify as to the actions of the Defendant which led to his previous conviction. IT IS SO ORDER



https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=131597&d=1521276850
March 9[SUP]th[/SUP] filing by Haselman/Prosecutor in response to judge order snippets


While the Court has previously held its final determination on Defendant's Motion No. 62 in abeyance pending the laying of an adequate foundation, as the Court has at least twice mentioned during the jury selection process that Ms G's testimony may be permitted during "rebuttal", the State is compelled to file this Additional Memorandum as Ohio law clearly and unequivocally indicates that proper Evidence Rule 404(B) evidence is to be admitted in the State's case-in-chief. ...


The State will not recount the similarity of the factual circumstances between what 2 happened between Ms. G and Defendant back in 1990 and the expected evidence in the case at bar. In that regard, the State would simply refer the Court to the State's prior filings regarding the matter. However, the State is merely filing this Additional Memorandum to make it clear that it is well-established law, as recognized by the Ohio Supreme Court and the Sixth District Court of Appeals, that Evidence Rule 404(B) evidence showing "proof of motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, [or] identity" is admissible in the State's casein-chief, and is not limited to rebuttal...


Moreover, while the State believes that the case law cited in Section A clearly calls for the State's proposed Evidence Rule 404(B) evidence to be admitted during the State's case-inchief, the State would likewise submit that limiting such evidence to rebuttal makes no sense when looking at what the State must prove in its case-in-chief, and the issues which are properly raised on rebuttal….



CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons, and as set forth in the State's Response to Defendant's Motion #62, it is clear that (1) the factual circumstances surrounding the 1990 incident involving Ms. G are admissible under the terms of Evidence Rule 404(B); and (2) that such evidence is admissible during the State's case-in-chief.

I thought the same thing.


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[Spellbound]

Prosecution actually filed a motion for him to be a witness for them. Couldn’t find any courts docs that actually confirmed or denied that request.

Does anyone want me to post the website and instructions on how to access these files? There are literally hundreds of docs. I only pulled a few that answered some our questions. By 5am I had to try and sleep. :/


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I would like the link, please. :tyou:

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Do you think they moved RG up to speak since they are wrapping up the prosecuting witnesses on Wednesday?

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Within the PDFs above, it shows that on January 3rd of this year, the supenoea was issued for this coming week! They knew the schedule long ago! IMO

 

[CZL496]

I would like the link, please. :tyou:

Court Dockets are open and public in Fulton County. There has been a lot of paperwork on there, easier to look at on laptop/computer.

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[dixiegirl1035]

I would like the link, please. :tyou:

Me too! :tyou:

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I joined Tapatalk & wowzy ... (starts singing) I can see clearly now....

A group of info gatherers for the Bill ;-)

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:wagon:

Yeah, the site here at WS appears so different and navigation and what you can see is so different once you join. I don't think folks know that until they join.

 

[lcat]

Court Dockets are open and public in Fulton County. There has been a lot of paperwork on there, easier to look at on laptop/computer.

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Me2

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[lcat]

I would like the link, please. :tyou:

For his brother? Link please!

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[Bbybluz]

:wagon:

Yeah, the site here at WS appears so different and navigation and what you can see is so different once you join. I don't think folks know that until they join.

I agree! Now when I have a chance I may start all over with reading everything from the beginning to see what I missed. Our beautiful hero/fighter/angel SJ has inspired me to start working on a violent offender bill here in Mich too!!

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[Bbybluz]

Within the PDFs above, it shows that on January 3rd of this year, the supenoea was issued for this coming week! They knew the schedule long ago! IMO

I noticed that as well & briefly thought there was a date error.

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[Bbybluz]

I would like the link, please. :tyou:

Yes please.

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[dixiegirl1035]

I noticed that as well & briefly thought there was a date error.

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... there is a timestamp on the top of the document from the court, so we know what date it was submitted. I too am surprised by how far ahead they plan everything, and now we know why they have two days off next week and have shortened days?

 

[MamaP]

For his brother? Link please!

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http://pa.fultoncountyoh.com

Link to look up court records


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[MamaP]

Yes please.

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http://pa.fultoncountyoh.com

Link for court records


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[MamaP]

This is the link to look up court records in Fulton county.

You will need to download something to be able to open the documents. If anyone needs help let know. I’m dragging butt right now.. sorry I didn’t respond sooner.

http://pa.fultoncountyoh.com


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