OH - Spencer and Monique Tepe found shot to death at home 2 children unharmed, Columbus, 30 December 2025 *ex-husband arrested*

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Just getting in and catching up. Listened to a portion of the pressor on the way home. So the only new thing I caught was a weapon in his possession was a match in NIBIN - to the bullets recovered in the murders. Is that correct, TIA.
And when the police chief was asked if they believe McKee is the man in the video she said “ we do”
 
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Just getting in and catching up. Listened to a portion of the pressor on the way home. So the only new thing I caught was a weapon in his possession was a match in NIBIN - to the bullets recovered in the murders. Is that correct, TIA.
Yes'm. Otherwise, it was mostly "we can't comment on that at this time"
 
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5 years in a residency program seems very long to me...?

Also, when doctors get credentialed at a hospital etc., they have to answer questions about weather they are under any mental treatment and are they capable of performing their duties. I guess he could have lied if he was on any mental medication, but that can be verified I think.

I don't see how that can be verified. HIPPA exists for a reason.
 
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McKee allegedly threatened Monique's life "many times," according to Misleh, who says that Monique had told him about the abuse. The alleged threats were verbal in nature.


"Monique was very vocal about being terrified of this guy [until her death]," says Misleh, who is married to Spencer's sister. "He was very emotionally abusive to her, to the point that it changed her as a person."
 
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Technically he is still a doctor, but we no longer need to address him with the “Dr.” honorific.

In my opinion he no longer deserves the respect that comes with the title.

Killing one’s ex-wife is a pretty good reason to doubt his integrity as a man of medicine.

JMO

We can call him MM, but his name is very common.

His middle name is David, so either MDM or doctor MDM, in order to make it less generic and not to harm his namesakes.
 
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I don't see how that can be verified. HIPPA exists for a reason.

I agree, and it's HIPAA --the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) of 1996.

Established federal standards protecting sensitive health information from disclosure without patient's consent. The US Department of Health and Human Services issued the HIPAA Privacy Rule to implement HIPAA requirements. The HIPAA Security Rule protects specific information cover the Privacy Rule.

 
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Still thinking about this case and what a total nightmare it is. How do you safeguard yourself against people from years ago?? I’m sure by the time baby #2 comes along the last thing you are thinking or imagining is that your psycho ex is obsessively planning your demise.

Someone on here mentioned that he could have been stalking and watching them enter their passcode with binoculars. I think that is the case. He entered their bedroom in the night. I don’t think protecting their passcode would have stopped him but def a good reminder about being aware of your surroundings.

And I don’t think he didn’t care about getting caught. I think he was honestly such a cocky 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 he thought he would get away with it. The sloppiness comes from the fact it was his first murder. As I’ve heard many ppl say there is no perfect murder.

Like, think about Kohberger. He planned for a long time and still left behind a knife sheath! Total bonehead move but reality is different than fantasy and most humans will have a human reaction to committing murder (adrenaline and frantic thinking)
 
  • #4,568
Almost ten years of terror for Monique, and still a tragic ending. I can’t believe they took so long to figure out it was him…
They knew it was him from day 1 or 2. They just didn’t tell us that.
 
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MM was not as smart as he thought he was. He kept the murder weapon in his car! Probably wanted to look at it from time to time and relive what he did to them.
Who said the murder weapon was in his car?
 
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Still thinking about this case and what a total nightmare it is. How do you safeguard yourself against people from years ago?? I’m sure by the time baby #2 comes along the last thing you are thinking or imagining is that your psycho ex is obsessively planning your demise.

Someone on here mentioned that he could have been stalking and watching them enter their passcode with binoculars. I think that is the case. He entered their bedroom in the night. I don’t think protecting their passcode would have stopped him but def a good reminder about being aware of your surroundings.

And I don’t think he didn’t care about getting caught. I think he was honestly such a cocky 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 he thought he would get away with it. The sloppiness comes from the fact it was his first murder. As I’ve heard many ppl say there is no perfect murder.

Like, think about Kohberger. He planned for a long time and still left behind a knife sheath! Total bonehead move but reality is different than fantasy and most humans will have a human reaction to committing murder (adrenaline and frantic thinking)

I posted about binoculars, but I didn’t know it was her ex. The development area appears dense, and my fear was of someone poorly known to the Tepes secretly observing them.

I don’t know what MM expected, but it is not impossible that had he succeeded, he won’t stop with his ex and her husband.
 
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Here is a thought I want to test. We all talk about “grievance collectors” and “narcissistic rage” but we don’t have a good idea why. Claudio Valente’s video didn’t make it clear.

What if all such mass shooters have the urge to kill but choose "less people" and more “themed targets”?

Look at 3D theme targets. They come in different forms, “a deer”, “coastal”, but I also saw Karl Marx. Whoever you want to aim at.

So imagine that Valente chose “US academia” thematic target. (Probably because he blamed “academia” for the perceived “loss of face”.) Brown, of course, was known. We assumed that Nuno Loureiro was shot out of personal envy. But Nuno also represented MIT. MIT Valente knew poorly and would have had more problems navigating (as opposed to Brown.) A former schoolmate who was accessible but also, the head of a MIT lab was the face of MIT.

If MDM is “the alley walker” then the man seems to be aware of the objects around him. He is sure-footed and appears goal-driven. What was his theme target? Relationship? Or was it still more, “medical world”, "the dentist" (whoever he blamed for the loss of face. Could be personal or professional). This we can find out. Hopefully during the trial.

Take Kohberger who has been mentioned today. Some LE initially said that “the house could be a target”. I thought they meant "it was a party house", but maybe not?

Kohberger scared off women. But he spent his formative years in a house with a mom and two sisters. Did he internally blame growing up with women for “the loss of face”? He was extremely misogynistic in WSU and treated women badly. On video with his dad, he looks happy. So whether he targeted a certain woman (no connection has been shown to the Idaho four, has it?) or a “house with women” per se is unclear. If you remember, that autumn someone attacked a female car parked at a nearby house, and in an odd way. That house got better security.
 
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Suicidal and mood changes especially in those under 25.

Yes, statistically, after 24 their chance of being school shooters decreases. But they clearly attack the entity that makes them lose their face, and it was more than true for Eric. (Remember how everyone was surprised at the randomness of the shooting? EH and DK didn't target the jocks. They targeted the Columbine).

I am interested if MDM blamed Monique for failed future relationships, or he targeted Spencer because Spencer was, after all, from the medical world, or really the couple.

I also wonder if he kept a gun in his car because he wanted to kill someone else? And not in Ohio, given where he was apprehended?
 
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1/14/25

LIVE! Case Updates & Legal Analysis: Spencer & Monique Tepe, Rex Heuermann and More​


28 min mark - Matt Murphy joins Josh to discuss Tepe murders.
 
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And when the police chief was asked if they believe McKee is the man in the video she said “ we do”
They have the video of him entering and leaving the home at the time of the murder, driving back to Illinois in a car registered to him. Tthe murder weapon has been found in his possession. And a history of him being abusive to his victim.
The evidence seems solid.
 
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I don't see how that can be verified. HIPPA exists for a reason.
Medical records can be subpoenaed, providers have to turn them over if they receive a valid court order signed by a judge. Also, lying on an employment application is usually grounds for dismissal. Lying to the state licensing board doesn't work out very well either.

In the event of a malpractice suit the hospital might look at drug use, legal and illegal. Co-workers may be asked to give sworn depositions. There are few secrets in a clinic and hospital.

Also medical practitioners have a duty to warn and to protect. If they believe a patient is a threat to self or others they are mandated to break HIPPA and report as appropriate.
 
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I think “correlation vs causation” is hard to study in these cases.

Take Eric Harris. For what we know, he was on an antidepressant at the time of the shooting. However, Harris’s and Klebold’s criminal behavior started way earlier than his treatment. In January of 1998, the duo broke into a van and stole computers and other electronics from it. Arrested, they were sent to a diversion program and in the context of the program, referred to anger management classes. After that, Harris saw a psychiatrist and was
started on an antidepressant.

Eric kept diaries for two years before the shooting and while IMHO they do trace slow descent into madness, he already comes across as angry and manipulative in the beginning of 1998, over a year before the Columbine massacre and way, way before any treatment.

So to me, while the correlation between Harris being on an antidepressant and the shooting exists, the context is different: the medication was prescribed for preexisting criminality, manifesting itself in felony charges that were dropped post-diversion. These charges happened 1 year and 4 months before the Columbine. (And in a county different from JEFCO, with less affluent school, both boys would have ended in a juvenile). Whether the choice of the drugs was right or wrong is subject to discussions, but the behavior was there.

(Dylan Klebold’s records are sealed so anyone’s guess is as good as mine.)

The fact that other school shooters could be on antidepressants or other “psych meds” as you say, only indicates their significant pre-existing behavioral issues.

Of course, what you post only highlights the need for a multivariate analysis of teenage aggression and criminality, with all multiple contributing factors.
Good grief. Prozac does not cause people to commit vicious, brutal murders. In fact, the medication gives a normal brain chemistry so people can feel and act in normal ways.

I am willing to entertain almost any possibility and theory, but there has to be a modicum of data and logic to it.
 
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I don't see how that can be verified. HIPPA exists for a reason.
Many doctors avoid getting mental health treatment for that very reason - if they answer truthfully about certain medications - it does go on their record and no matter how double secret you think hippa is - not so much in my experience. It affects their employment.

Some doctors self diagnose and self medicate - to avoid the stigma - not ideal.

Also Doctor’s/healthcare workers are a profession with high rates of alcoholism.

Just my opinion/ experience
 
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Still thinking about this case and what a total nightmare it is. How do you safeguard yourself against people from years ago?? I’m sure by the time baby #2 comes along the last thing you are thinking or imagining is that your psycho ex is obsessively planning your demise.

Someone on here mentioned that he could have been stalking and watching them enter their passcode with binoculars. I think that is the case. He entered their bedroom in the night. I don’t think protecting their passcode would have stopped him but def a good reminder about being aware of your surroundings.

And I don’t think he didn’t care about getting caught. I think he was honestly such a cocky 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 he thought he would get away with it. The sloppiness comes from the fact it was his first murder. As I’ve heard many ppl say there is no perfect murder.

Like, think about Kohberger. He planned for a long time and still left behind a knife sheath! Total bonehead move but reality is different than fantasy and most humans will have a human reaction to committing murder (adrenaline and frantic thinking)
This is a good point. Even with a revenge murder, fantasy is a large part of the equation. He probably thought about it endlessly and imagined exactly how it would go. That would have given him confidence.

As is the case with any fantasy, things don’t go exactly as planned. 1 week later he’s in cuffs.
 

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