Match! OH - Strongsville, WhtFem UP15394, 15-25, in Rocky River, Feb'75 - Linda Pagano

  • #221
Dr. David B. Scott was Dean of Case Dental School in March of '74. This report has his examination of Christine McWeeny's dentals that were mentioned earlier in the thread. Seeing as this was fairly new ground back then it may have been a function that only the Dean performed? So maybe the same person did this UID's examination? Doubt Dean Scott would still be around at Case but maybe whoever the new dean is now would know where to look to verify they don't have anything?

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/41899NCJRS.pdf

ETA: Dean Scott passed in 2012
 
  • #222
I was looking at Highland Park Cemetery, and in the world of weird coincidences the founder of the SLA is apparently buried there as well. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=22548 So maybe this is why they checked it against Michelle Harris - maybe they thought he had some contacts in this area who might be willing to help (or also harm) Harris.
 
  • #223
Just a thought...there is another case nearby with an unidentified woman entered into NamUs but not here on WS threads (that I have been able to find). It was in Columbia Station, Lorain County (which is 6.5 miles from Strongsville). Date of death is 1979 - 1981.

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/14921

Ya'll may already be familiar with this case but just throwing something else out there!

Thank you. Was not aware of this one. It looks like it was just entered in Namus in March of this year. Lorain County found other remains in March (in Huntington Township; there is a thread here at WS) and that must have prompted them to clean house and enter the one you referenced into Namus in March as well. Good to see them do this.
 
  • #224
I Just spoke with Anj Fisher of the Cuyahoga Co. MedEx office. I sent her my recon, and suggested that she take a look at Ella Lodermeier. She said that she is also currently looking for the dentals on Patricia Seelbaugh.
 
  • #225
Just for comparison to Ella Lodermeier, I gave my recon a similar hairstyle.

Ella Lodermeier and Strongsville Jane Comparison.jpg
 
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I found another one, Lucie Gelinas, from Trois Rivieres, Quebec. She and her friend were traveling to Vancouver and were never heard from again. Though it's 10 hours driving time between the locations, may be they decided to drive through the US instead of Canada via Niagara Falls.
http://www.nampn.org/cases/gelinas_lucie.html
 
  • #228
I found another one, Lucie Gelinas, from Trois Rivieres, Quebec. She and her friend were traveling to Vancouver and were never heard from again. Though it's 10 hours driving time between the locations, may be they decided to drive through the US instead of Canada via Niagara Falls.
http://www.nampn.org/cases/gelinas_lucie.html

Not enough projection of the nose, IMO.
 
  • #229
So you're saying the nose is really, really big?
 
  • #230
So you're saying the nose is really, really big?

Not really, really big. Not Barbara Streisand big. It is just that it has a distinctive curvature. Not a dorsal lump like Streisand has, but rather a smooth even curve of the dorsum of her nose.
 
  • #231
Not really, really big. Not Barbara Streisand big. It is just that it has a distinctive curvature. Not a dorsal lump like Streisand has, but rather a smooth even curve of the dorsum of her nose.

Like this.

Strongsville Nose Example.jpg
 
  • #232
Gotcha. I was thinking young, pre-nose job Cher but that certainly gives me a better idea. Thank you.
 
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  • #234
I Just spoke with Anj Fisher of the Cuyahoga Co. MedEx office. I sent her my recon, and suggested that she take a look at Ella Lodermeier. She said that she is also currently looking for the dentals on Patricia Seelbaugh.

She already added Patricia Seelbaugh to the rule-outs. But not Ellabeth Lodermeier

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/15394

Ida Anderson
Carol Batterman
Linda Britton
Carlene Brown
Anita Drake
Mary Hammonds
Olga Mauger
Deborah Meyer
Laurie Partridge
Beverly Potts
Donnis Redman
Ione Rehwinkle
Patricia Seelbaugh
Beverly Sharpman
Connie Smith
Margie Snead
Rebecca Triska
 
  • #235
Here's the reference to the blonde hair. In a handwritten note on page 84 .

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W/F
Late teens early 20's
5-1
22 or 25
Channel 8 -
Shape of Skull - Nordic
Blonde Hair
Prominent Nose

Since there is some speculation that she might be blonde, here is a blonde version of the recon. Since we don't know her hairstyle, I am going with it pulled back into a ponytail. Most women who have long enough hair will pull it into a ponytail at one time or another.

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  • #236
Carl, since I don't see them exhuming her soon and getting DNA and a CT of her skull or however else they do reconstructions, I'd have to say your likenesses are going to be what solves this. Even without a reference to her jawline. It was definitely worth doing I think!

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  • #237
Agreed! Well worth giving it a try!
 
  • #238
I can't remember if anyone suggested Vicki Hollar. She went missing from Oregon on 08/20/1973. She was believed to be a Bundy victim, neither she nor her car were ever recovered. It had Illinois plates on it. She has a relatively smooth curve of the dorsum.
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9265/41
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  • #239
Carl, do you know if they are ruling people out by dental at the moment? If so, Vicki has dental available.
 
  • #240
Carl, do you know if they are ruling people out by dental at the moment? If so, Vicki has dental available.

Yes, they are, but since all five of Jane Doe's teeth remaining unerupted teeth had fillings, it is tough to get positive rule-outs on charts alone. Technically, if a MP's tooth is unrestored, and the UID has a filling in the same tooth, you still can't rule them out because you can't assume that the dental chart represents their last dental appointment.
 

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