Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

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Even though it seems pretty clear that the hair and nails analysis will match up the pollen testing, I'll still eagerly awaiting the results. I really wish they had enough funds to be able to shell out the extra money for the isotope analysis with the teeth. I'm longing for detailed answers.

I'm not seeing her as either MVJD or BG. The side-view comparisons show that she has a very different nose (both to BG and MVJD). Rosie's nose curves inward. MVJD and BG both have humps on the dorsums of their noses.

I'm not seeing her as BG either.
 
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I think BG is Patricia Salamandyk. I've compared and overlayed her pic with the frontal morgue photo and it's simply amazing. I've never seen anything like it. I see on her thread that someone beat me to calling her in as a match. Working across borders and without a suspect I wonder if it will take a while before we know one way or the other.

I've been scouring Canadian MPs for years for BG. But I always assumed if she was Canadian she'd most likely have come from Ontario or Quebec - not Alberta - that's so far! If it's her, she left Alberta, possibly voluntarily given the time frame, and I wonder if she eventually hooked up with a trucker. To go from Alberta to the mesic oak forests of the Northeast US to the southwest then back towards the northeast....plus the high-traffic/heavy soot info from her clothes, it's as possible as anything else I suppose.
 
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I think BG is Patricia Salamandyk. I've compared and overlayed her pic with the frontal morgue photo and it's simply amazing. I've never seen anything like it. I see on her thread that someone beat me to calling her in as a match. Working across borders and without a suspect I wonder if it will take a while before we know one way or the other.

I've been scouring Canadian MPs for years for BG. But I always assumed if she was Canadian she'd most likely have come from Ontario or Quebec - not Alberta - that's so far! If it's her, she left Alberta, possibly voluntarily given the time frame, and I wonder if she eventually hooked up with a trucker. To go from Alberta to the mesic oak forests of the Northeast US to the southwest then back towards the northeast....plus the high-traffic/heavy soot info from her clothes, it's as possible as anything else I suppose.

Patricia's thread,
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...amandyk-16-Spruce-Grove-Edmonton-AB-June-1972
 
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I think BG is Patricia Salamandyk. I've compared and overlayed her pic with the frontal morgue photo and it's simply amazing. I've never seen anything like it. I see on her thread that someone beat me to calling her in as a match. Working across borders and without a suspect I wonder if it will take a while before we know one way or the other.

I've been scouring Canadian MPs for years for BG. But I always assumed if she was Canadian she'd most likely have come from Ontario or Quebec - not Alberta - that's so far! If it's her, she left Alberta, possibly voluntarily given the time frame, and I wonder if she eventually hooked up with a trucker. To go from Alberta to the mesic oak forests of the Northeast US to the southwest then back towards the northeast....plus the high-traffic/heavy soot info from her clothes, it's as possible as anything else I suppose.

Her name has been tossed around on this thread for years, but I could never find out if someone actually submitted her, so I sent emails to the RCMP, NamUs, the Miami County Coroner and to the detective's organization. I got confirmation replies from NamUs and the RCMP, that's all, but not real follow up. Someone may have already contacted them about the match before me, who knows? I did it so we could have it documented on here that it was done, and to finally get a match or a rule out.
 
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This may be a redundant or moot point but I noticed a circus act (Erik and Bobbi Adams featuring a "Very Funny Dog Act and Chimpanzee Act"). The dates in 1981 were:

March 22 to March 28 - Dayton, Ohio

April 2 to April 11 - Columbus, Ohio

April 23 to April 26 - Indianapolis, Indiana

May mean nothing but it gives someone time to be going through Ohio and exiting again as well.

http://www.circushistory.org/Publications/CircusReport03Nov1980.pdf

Dayton is South on I-75 (10.6 miles south of I-70 and I-75 corridor); Columbus is east of this I-70/75 corridor (69.7 miles traveling on I-70) and Indianapolis is west of this I-70/75 corridor (112 miles or 1 hour and 46 minutes traveling on I-70). Where BG girl was found is 16.7 miles north (on I-75) from this corridor. The corridor and these trips make a perfect "t".

Also there was a break in shows after 4/11 (in Columbus) till 4/23 show in Indianapolis.

Maybe someone has noticed this before? LE in 1981?

Just throwing a coincidental idea out there!!

Doesn't help with knowing who she was but just an interesting fact!
 
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I have always thought that corridor was chosen for it's quick access to either interstate in any direction. What if she was part of circus (could explain variuos soot, pollen etc.). This would leave the place she called "home" with endless possibilities!
 
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Not sure if this mp has already been suggested or not, although she is listed as being 5'3''..

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1238042/1
Judy Davis
NCMC1238042c1.jpg
 
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The jacket makes me think of something that would be sold in something like a gift shop on a reservation- she may have braided her hair to go with the jacket ( native theme) as for no shoes-when I'm traveling in a vehicle for a while I always take my shoes off-that could be why she didn't have any on. I would like to know if the bottom of her feet were dirty as if she had been walking a lot barefoot or clean like killed in vehicle & dumped without noticing her shoes still in car. I also wondered if she was possibly part of some type of religious cult or something similar as the circus mentioned above. To be well kept she had to have access to water/soap/razors maybe like a rv or hotels
 
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I actually found a blog where someone discusses what happened to her.
I'm just not sure I can post a link to it because I know there are certain guidelines against this sort of thing.
It may be nothing, but I found it to be very intriguing.
 
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Can you private message it somehow? I'd love to read it.
 
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I feel so out of the loop! Haven't been able to do a solid post on BG's thread for the last 1.5 weeks.

I actually found a blog where someone discusses what happened to her.
I'm just not sure I can post a link to it because I know there are certain guidelines against this sort of thing.
It may be nothing, but I found it to be very intriguing.

What specifically does it discuss? If memory serves, most blog posts won't be taken down.
 
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This probably won't be a useful post for most people, but I wanted to try to get the facts of the case together in one post.

- Buckskin Girl was found murdered on April 24, 1981. The autopsy estimated her date of death as April 22, 1981, which is the death date listed on her headstone.
- She was found on Greenlee Road of Troy, Newton Township, Miami County, Ohio. She was found approximately 5 miles away from Ohio State Route 55.
- She was a Caucasian female, 18-26 years old. She had long, reddish-brown hair, that was pulled into 2 braids at the time of her death. She had light, ruddy and freckled skin, indicating she may have spent a lot of time outdoors. She was 5'4-5'6 and weighed approximately 130 lbs.
- She had multiple scars on her body, including a 7/8'' below her lower lip. She had a 2 1/4'' scar on left wrist, 1/4 x 1/4'' scar on left arm, 1'' scar on left wrist, 7/8'' scar on right middle finger, 1 1/8'' scar on right ankle, and a 3/4'' scar on right foot. She had a 3/4 x 1/4 tan birthmark on left thigh. She also had a light brown mole on her right breast, and another light brown mole on her left arm.
- She had suffered blows to the head and neck, but succumbed due to strangulation. New reports also indicate that she suffered a lacerated liver.
- She had a porcelain metal crown on tooth #8, the right central incisor. Besides that, no other dental work was noted. Her teeth were straight, white, and in very good condition.
- She was very well-groomed. Her eyebrows had been very recently plucked.
- She was found wearing a buckskin jacket, which inspired the nickname of Buckskin Girl. It was extensively studied by LE, and it is speculated to have been handmade. It had a satin purple lining, and had fringe and leather eyelets. It was hoodless.
- In addition to the jacket, she wore a size Large turtleneck with a distinctive orange and brown geometric pattern. She wore size 30L Wrangler blue jeans. She also wore 32D white bra, no underwear.
- She was found with no shoes or socks.
- Her ears were unpierced. She had no tattoos, and wore no jewelry.
- Pollen tests conducted in 2016 showed that she had spent a long amount of time (possibly more than a year) in the northeastern dry-oak forest region of the USA. This includes areas in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. In addition to this information, she also had a large amount of soot on her clothing from industrial activity or vehicle traffic.
- The outer layers of her clothing indicated that she had spent a very short amount of time before her death (mere days) in the western USA or north Mexico.
- She was laid to rest in Troy's Riverside Cemetery.
 
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Nevermind, I see she's been ruled out.
 
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I was intrigued by the circus possibility. I looked up Erik Adams. It seems he'd been doing his comedy chimp act going back to the 50s. I couldn't find any real pictures outside of the ads that were in the publication, and couldn't find any videos of the act on youtube, but he sure traveled a lot.
 
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Spring, I found your post very useful. It's a great overview.
 
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I just noticed that she had a lacerated liver. That means someone, someone very strong punched her very hard in the stomach. Very hard. She wasn't sexually assaulted, yet she was attractive; buxom. She had blows to the face and neck and was strangled. Someone was extremely angry. Strangled...silenced.
Homemade buckskin jacket - her favorite possession maybe. Bra on but no panties. No shoes or socks. A hasty getaway, but she was caught.

She was described as in incredibly good physical shape. So based on those braids and buckskin, I think she was a ranch or farm girl. The isotypes say she had recently been in Mexico or the West Coast. The jacket could easily be from Mexico. The isotope study also said she hailed from Mass, CT, Penn., or Rhode Island most likely. I can't find anything on Doe that matches up.
Her write up also says she recently plucked her eyebrows, so our girl wasn't completely farm girl.
Foster child that got lost in the system?
 
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I hadn't noticed the cap on her front tooth. That's the kind of repair an active kid who plays sports, climbs trees, etc. will get. Which fits with the minor scars, outdoorsy complexion, and general strong healthy appearance.
 
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