Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

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  • #2,501
M on her forehead reminded me of this doe with a W scar on her forehead . You can't really see it in the photo but it made me wonder if they were hit with the same thing just at a different angle? http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/512ufwv.html

What would leave that characteristic 'M' shape wound? I was looking at so many of the older 'Trucker's Friend' tools, but none seem to have anything that would leave that mark. To me it almost looks like some kind of nail-puller...

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  • #2,502
Im wondering if its a horse tack tool, or a farriers driving hammer?
 
  • #2,503
Except it's not from a hammer - when I've taken a regular hammer and struck it (the nail-puller) against a piece of clay, it leaves a much different mark that isn't even close to this one. It also tends to do what I believe would pull the skin off. Also, since a hammer is heavy, the repeated blows that BSG took to her head would have probably killed her alone - and thus there would have been no need to strangle her. This has to be some tool that is lightweight; maybe a nail-puller tool on its own?

I thought it looked like the other side of the hammer too!

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  • #2,504
What is everyones best guess on the lack of shoes? FULLY dressed, but no shoes. JUst like a corpse in a coffin was she intentionally put in her buckskin best after being killed? Cuts on the scalp and face bleed profusely, but i dont recall her buckskin jacket being soiled with blood
 
  • #2,505
I believe she was found separately from her jacket - that someone saw her jacket, and then noticed the body a little ways away. Maybe her jacket was thrown out of the vehicle first, and then her body (which was found face-down).

What is everyones best guess on the lack of shoes? FULLY dressed, but no shoes. JUst like a corpse in a coffin was she intentionally put in her buckskin best after being killed? Cuts on the scalp and face bleed profusely, but i dont recall her buckskin jacket being soiled with blood
 
  • #2,506
Here is something totally far fetched but it just came to my mind . Do you think her head was slammed against the truck(assuming it was a trucker that killed her) and when slammed against the truck she hit the MACK truck emblem? Most of the those big trucks are Mack trucks I believe. The M has the same slant and one side of the M is thinner than the other like the scar on her forehead.

Here is a link to the emblem http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mack-Truck-...89bb32a&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=4&sd=262950424957. Here is another link http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mac...76180e7&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=201802474070
 
  • #2,507
Rancher/cowgirl wrangler jeans - check.
Western wear/Indian inspired buckskin jacket - check
Cowgirl braids - check
Boots - missing
Horse gloves - missing

I *really* wish we could see pics of her hands and feet. Even with boots and gloves, a horsewoman's hands and feet would show telltale signs of that work.
One thing I've learned on WS, is that what you can be SURE of, turns out not to be. So while I'm SURE she's a farm/ranch-girl, I'm keeping my mind open.

I haven't looked back through all previous suggestions but IIRC the possibility of a link to the horse racing industry has been suggested before. I wonder if she could have been involved in escorting bought and sold racehorses across the country, and maybe travelling from time to time to or via Lexington; and Troy is straight up the I75 from Lexington.

Horse racing everywhere is an upmarket industry, so it seems to me a well groomed young woman from a middle class or rural background would probably fit right in, perhaps in an admin or secretarial role if not actively working with the horses.
 
  • #2,508
OMG, That is scary - I'd say that's the closest I've ever seen, to the point where I believe that is a distinct possibility! Good work!

Here is something totally far fetched but it just came to my mind . Do you think her head was slammed against the truck(assuming it was a trucker that killed her) and when slammed against the truck she hit the MACK truck emblem? Most of the those big trucks are Mack trucks I believe. The M has the same slant and one side of the M is thinner than the other like the scar on her forehead.

Here is a link to the emblem http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mack-Truck-...89bb32a&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=4&sd=262950424957. Here is another link http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mac...76180e7&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=201802474070
 
  • #2,509
http://nursekey.com/25-blunt-sharp-and-firearm-injuries/

Blunt force trauma injury terms -
Lacerations result from blunt injuries and may be contaminated with foreign material or contain trace evidence.
Lacerations of soft tissue, brought about by contact with angular objects in areas that overlie bone, may be mistaken for cuts.

• Directional characteristics are frequently present in abrasions and lacerations, and occasionally in fractures, although broken ends of bone are seldom examined with direction of force in mind (with the exception of bullet wounds).

Lacerations -
• Tears resulting from forceful contact with angular objects can, if there is underlying bone, lead to the formation of linear injuries, which may be mistaken for cuts from sharp objects.
• Lacerations may indicate direction of force when, for instance, the bent knee of a vehicle occupant hits the lower part of the dash in a frontal collision.
Some people use the expression “trapdoor laceration” to describe the directional nature of such an evulsion injury, an inverted U- or V-shaped flap of skin that remains attached at its upper margin.


It's just a thought, but her head could have been pushed into or hit by a number of things - even something flat like a dashboard - a car panel - a steel road pole - something inside a phone booth ..
It maybe a single blow - or several.

Im not sure of the direction that the wound indicates, but to my untrained eye, I am wondering if she was hit from behind, had her head bent backwards or was lying down when she was hit.
Maybe from someone sitting in the backseat of a car if she was in the front.


I am wondering what the laceration looked like prior to it being sewn up.
I'm not seeing the bruising surrounding the stitched wounds associated with a hit - not to say its wasn't there, it could have been erased before publishing the photo back then.
Was this injury prior to her strangulation?
Was there any investigation of any material taken from the wound?
 
  • #2,510
It always makes me wonder if the missing person records at police departments from back then were ever entered into the new systems, or just perhaps discarded at some point? I mean, back then everything was on paper and departments didn't necessarily share information either. I mean, NCIC was launched in 1967, but were all police departments online and using it in 1980?

Hmmm - that crossed my mind last night too.
Wondering if a missing persons report is somewhere in Texas/Oklahoma in a box - and seeing she was a traveller, the case wasn't taken seriously - or they put her down to being a runaway.

I am looking at Oklahoma and Texas currently - thinking that BSG might have her base there - and there have been some serious investigations into the mismanagement of some Missing Persons/ Murder cases where by they have had suspects names and DNA tests which could have been used to make arrests, and the criminals have been known to Police, but the DA didn't feel they would win the case at the time so they didn't charge nor prosecute anyone.

Lester Black Bear was one case which was overlooked for 30 years -

Another is Temmie Cooley (Dallas) - sentenced 2014 for a 28 year old murder of Sharon Trimble - which bears the hallmarks of how BSG died.
MSM said that Cooley was 48y.o. in 2014 - which means he was 15 years old in 1981 - so it would be a huge stretch if he had anything to do with BSG, - but who knows who he was hanging out with then, where he was living - he would have been around the age of BSG's younger age estimation.
But with the 2 murder cases he sexually assaulted these women, the first murder was in 1989. He was in a clandestine relationship with them.
Details of Cooleys 1989 and 2001 murders - (from msm links below
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The murders of Sharon Trimble and Earlene Warrell had macabre-like similarities.
Each woman's partially clothed body was dumped on the side of a country road.
Trimble, 23, was found along County Road 140 in Plano in 1989.
Warrell, 47, was found along Malloy Bridge Road in Kaufman County in 2001.
Both had been strangled one with a ligature, one undetermined - possibly by hands.
Shoes were off one victim, and found nearby.
No dna evidence to prove murder on the victims.
Cooley stole the victims cars.
No ID on the victims, but they had been reported missing.
Victims were found in ditches the next day after they had been murdered.




(2010) Former OSBI Agents Say Problems Lead To Cold Cases
http://www.news9.com/story/13507016...eport-problems-with-the-agency-and-the-system

(2014) Plano PD makes arrest in 1989 murder case (updated)
http://starlocalmedia.com/planocour...cle_894b61d6-0c5b-11e4-bf81-0019bb2963f4.html
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...gulation-coworker-found-dead-1989-plano-ditch

(2014) Killer's 80-year sentence for 1989 murder was a long time coming for victim's family
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter
 
  • #2,511
And now I see this article ...

I know the some of the testing results was saying she may have been from the area North Texas and South Oklahoma - so I have been searching there - but I pity anyone who has a case there presently as they have had their funding cut this year.

OKLAHOMA - Funding to solve cold cases across Oklahoma is cut
MARCH 2, 2017

Families and law enforcement agencies were warned last November it could happen, and it has now become a reality.A national grant for cold case funding has been cut.
The grant is through the National Institute of Justice and is called Using DNA Technology To Identify the Missing.
It provided $4.7 million for the entire country and has been in existence since 2004 and in use at the University of North Texas Center for Human Identification.
That is the lab that provided the DNA testing for all of Oklahoma&#8217;s unidentified human remains.
But, this week, the Oklahoma Medical Examiner&#8217;s office was notified the lab will no longer accept out of state samples, because the grant is not being offered any more.
&#8220;I cried. I took a lunch break and went to the park and cried. I did. Because, it affects me so profoundly,&#8221; said Carla Eastep.
Eastep&#8217;s son, Tommy, has been missing for more than three and a half years.
She knew, if someday skeletal remains were discovered, they could be sent to the lab at UNT to see if they might be Tommy&#8217;s.
That&#8217;s not an option any more.
&#8220;This just makes you feel so hopeless. And, if we don&#8217;t have this funding available to us, how will we ever find our missing loved ones?&#8221; Eastep said.
&#8220;By losing this grant, we&#8217;re taking away not only the hope for the families but hope of resolving these cases for the medical examiner&#8217;s office, and maybe for law enforcement resolving a cold case and maybe seeking justice,&#8221; said Angela Berg, an anthropologist with the Oklahoma Medical Examiner&#8217;s Office.


This (I assume) was the funding which was put in place to try and solve so many of the very old cases which had been sitting waiting for someone to go back and look at the evidences which had been collected and nothing dome with in 2010) - I posted a link in the above post about this very issue.
 
  • #2,512
What would leave that characteristic 'M' shape wound? I was looking at so many of the older 'Trucker's Friend' tools, but none seem to have anything that would leave that mark. To me it almost looks like some kind of nail-puller...

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This would leave a "M"


There are a few reasons a person would have such a tool. Truckers would, tow truck drivers, tire shops, carpenters who rip floors out.

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  • #2,513
Here is something totally far fetched but it just came to my mind . Do you think her head was slammed against the truck(assuming it was a trucker that killed her) and when slammed against the truck she hit the MACK truck emblem? Most of the those big trucks are Mack trucks I believe. The M has the same slant and one side of the M is thinner than the other like the scar on her forehead.

Here is a link to the emblem http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mack-Truck-...89bb32a&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=4&sd=262950424957. Here is another link http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mac...76180e7&pid=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=201802474070
Back then Mack trucks were popular in very heavy hauling, not so much for long haul. Think.. quarry rocks, coal, dirt...

If her head were to hit a emblem it would have to be one on the side of such a truck as the main emblem would be on the hood and very high up. Keep in mind... on a rig.. the cab sits high up, the hood does as well. Some of these trucks have a step inside the center of the number you put your boot into while grabbing the handle area to lower the hood in order to check fluids and or work on the engine. Due to fall risks (falling backwards) most drivers unlatch the hood from both sides then, from the ground, on one side of the hood, loft the hood, holding onto it so it does not bounce and become damaged, to the resting position.

In the rest position, the emblem would then be pointed to the ground.

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  • #2,514
I've always thought the clawed end of a crowbar, tire iron or jack lever.
Every car has the last two, that I know of, for changing tires. I can see this as a lovers' spat gone wrong, over bad driving directions or a flat tire. If you've never had to drive long distances with someone who is bad at either giving or following directions, you have no idea how infuriating it is, LOL.
 
  • #2,515
Perhaps she was a barrel racer.
 
  • #2,516
I've always thought the clawed end of a crowbar, tire iron or jack lever.
Every car has the last two, that I know of, for changing tires. I can see this as a lovers' spat gone wrong, over bad driving directions or a flat tire. If you've never had to drive long distances with someone who is bad at either giving or following directions, you have no idea how infuriating it is, LOL.

This sounds very plausible
 
  • #2,517
Perhaps she was a barrel racer.
Buckskin would be appropriately dressed for it, imo.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=barr...UICCgB&biw=1366&bih=659#imgrc=gCgiBlNwHErsFM:
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So how do we go about looking for her? Look in the background of the pictures and what do you see? All those trucks with tire irons!

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  • #2,520
What about looking for a hall of famer who was around during the time she was found. If we could find one maybe we could find a way of contacting her and asking her if she knows her.

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