GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #3

[nervous_nellie]

http://www.google.com/images?q=1984...k&ct=mode&sqi=2&ved=0CAwQ_AU&biw=1366&bih=653

link to 1984 crown vic images

 

[Cazzie]

The fire was only a few blocks from MH's house.

http://www.mountvernonnews.com/local/10/11/13/downtowns-struggle-after-fires

It sounds like they'd have to be looking at this, too.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Mount+Vernon,+201+South+Main+Street,+OH&sll=40.307024,-82.691936&sspn=0.13562,0.405807&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=201+S+Main+St,+Mt+Vernon,+Knox,+Ohio+43050&ll=40.390522,-82.484708&spn=0.008466,0.025363&z=16

And there was a body in it, IIRC, from the first report.

 

[darlin gal]

2nd car stolen in 2006 not related to case according to 10TV.

 

[raeann]

Second car out, not related, was stolen in 2006

 

[nervous_nellie]

i agree that they are looking for a specific car that must be unaccounted for...

 

[sherbetjello]

A little off topic from the cars, and I am saying this in hopes that someone from/on the FB page comes across this... I understand how fast everyone wants information, but I have no doubt what-so-ever that Sarah is suffering from a form of shock, if not many.
I saw people after 9/11 unable to find words... for days. It's comparable, I would think. So, forcing or demanding that "she should be investigated" breaks my heart. I can only hope that she gave them what she could at the time, and nothing more. The World is heavy on her. She is only 13 and made it out - ALIVE. I think the best thing is for her to be able to process what she knows correctly, around her family (father), in the time that is comfortable..
And, yes, I do realize that there are still 3 others missing, but the responsibility doesn't ultimately lie with her - she was a victim herself and I am sure she is doing all that she can... for her mother and brothers sake.

/removes soapbox.

 

[Sleuthster]

It could have been a stolen rental car too, with texas plates. I had a rental car in Miss a few months ago and it had california plates.

 

[cluciano63]

Could the car be an insurance fraud...

 

[AnaTeresa]

A little off topic from the cars, and I am saying this in hopes that someone from/on the FB page comes across this... I understand how fast everyone wants information, but I have no doubt what-so-ever that Sarah is suffering from a form of shock, if not many.
I saw people after 9/11 unable to find words... for days. It's comparable, I would think. So, forcing or demanding that "she should be investigated" breaks my heart. I can only hope that she gave them what she could at the time, and nothing more. The World is heavy on her. She is only 13 and made it out - ALIVE. I think the best thing is for her to be able to process what she knows correctly, around her family (father), in the time that is comfortable..
And, yes, I do realize that there are still 3 others missing, but the responsibility doesn't ultimately lie with her - she was a victim herself and I am sure she is doing all that she can... for her mother and brothers sake.

/removes soapbox.

If I could thank you a thousand times for this, I would. :applause:

 

[Texas Mist]

JVM is talking about this case tonite.

She's asking for a timeline.

Reporter talking about timeline...nothing that we don't know already.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-family-vanishes-teen-daughter-found-alive/story?id=12148269

Sheriff Calls Kidnapped 13-Year-Old Girl 'Epitome of Bravery'
By BARBARA PINTO and RUSSELL GOLDMAN
MOUNT VERNON, Ohio Nov. 15, 2010

Divers searching a park near the home where an Ohio teenager was found bound and gagged came up empty handed today after locating a car underwater they had briefly hoped would lead them to the girl's still missing family members.

<Snipped>

Despite the girl's efforts to help police in their investigation, they fear Sarah's little brother, mother and a family friend who disappeared at the same time may be dead.

 

[grayjay]

And there was a body in it, IIRC, from the first report.

Interesting. I couldn't find this, but would appreciate a link. I do wonder if it's related.

 

[RoseWhite]

Just came across the news that they found Sarah. Bless her and how fortunate they found her alive! How could someone DO this??? I will never understand. My heart hurts to think I could be at my desk, having a normal day, and anyone- any child, could be going through what Sarah must have gone through. It devastates me.

 

[nerosleuth]

Jane V. Mitchell on CNN Headline News is now carrying this case live on her show.

One person said that Hoffman was a voyeuer, that he sat on a hammock on a tree to watch his neighbors!

 

[Texas Mist]

Mike B. talking about LE has to check out every single lead.

JVM wondering if only 1 person involved, how does one person commandeer that many people...also talking about neighbors calling him weird.

There's a neighbor, Cheryl, lives across the street....never saw him going in & out..she doesn't know him.

JVM asking about him being the town weirdo.

Neighbor says she would see fires in back yard in MH's back yard.....she could sit in her chair & watch the fires & tell her husband to come look...fires 3-4 times a week.

 

[Texas Mist]

JVM talking about fire burning in his yard Wed. nite...neighbor Donna saw a big silver truck in the back yard for days & saw the fire burning.

Caller asking how LE knew that Sarah was in the house.

Reporter says LE doesn't know the connection between the missing people & MH...says Sarah said 1st time she met MH was in the house w/ Tina & Kody.


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[Texas Mist]

neighbor saying MH was sleeping on couch when SWAT broke in.


JVM talking about when LE found beer cans & blood in the house.

A TH saying Sarah will be the key in this mystery...she's the key piece of evidence...but right now, situation grim.

JVM talking about beer cans everywhere in the house...she thinks suspect was in house drinking beer.

Another TH saying disturbing is how many people describe MH....saying MH is weird...his arson, violence, etc....Says he is/was a crime waiting to happen...says it's OK to report if your kids are threatened, report g/f being beaten up.

JVM says don't wait until things get outta hand to report violent behavior.

Ohio caller - asking about MH being stopped earlier by Tina's truck...is it possible there's more than 1 suspect.
Reporter says LE says they don't believe there's anyone else.

 

[imamaze]

Cars in Ohio lake likely unrelated to 3 missing
Investigators say two cars found in a central Ohio lake are likely unrelated to a search for three people who remain missing a day after a 13-year-old girl who disappeared with them was found in a nearby home.
More...

 

[Cazzie]

Interesting. I couldn't find this, but would appreciate a link. I do wonder if it's related.

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/lo...tory-columbus-champion-avenue-fatal-fire.html

I caught most of the presser today (for "our" case) and I can't believe not one reporter asked about the aforementioned case, from Friday!

 

[Texas Mist]

reporter says again that neighbors of MH were saying they were afraid of him


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