OH OH - Tyler Davis, 29, Columbus, 24 February 2019 #2

[wyome]

I'm so new to this case, so be kind in repeating info to the newbie.

Questions: Has the uber driver ever come forward or has LE released anything on him?

Has it ever been substantiated WHY they were kicked out of the strip club that night?

Did Schon spend the night in the hotel that night, or did he drive home?

 

[velvta]

I'm so new to this case, so be kind in repeating info to the newbie.

Questions: Has the uber driver ever come forward or has LE released anything on him?

Has it ever been substantiated WHY they were kicked out of the strip club that night?

Did Schon spend the night in the hotel that night, or did he drive home?

Hi Wyome. 1. I believe that police have said their discussion with the Uber driver simply corroborated the story told by Britney and the friend. 2. They were kick out of the strip club just because it was closing. Britney was still in the bathroom when the bar officialy closed, and Tyler wanted to wait for her inside. The bar's security said he had to go outside to wait and they briefly disagreed about where he would have to wait for her. I think too much is made of this little spat. 3. Schon went home. He lives in Gahanna, so he drove home. He apparently got sick and tired of looking for Tyer, and decided he'd had it with his behavior, and went home in his own car . He was probably too drunk to drive. But who knows?

 

[Pipsissiway_Potts]

I agree with Velvta regarding the argument. I think it's relevant regarding Tyler's state of mind, but nothing beyond that. I also have always believed Britney. I may be biased as she reminds me both in her appearance and her voice of a close friend of mine. I don't think Britney had anything to do with Tyler disappearing. As for the quick charge of her phone, I think she was being irrational and impractical due to being drunk. Certainly when people are drunk the decisions they make don't make sense to someone who is sober. And probably not to them either when they're sober. If anything, Britney has been forthcoming. I suspect she may be embarrassed about some of their actions on that evening, and in the early morning, but I don't pick up on anything like guilty knowledge. I can't speak for the friend, Schon, as he has never appeared in public as far as I know, and immediately got a lawyer. Lawyering up is a smart move if you think you're going to be suspected, certainly. It didn't look good then, and it doesn't look good now, regardless of how "smart" it is. It depends on how much you trust local LE or whether you think "something" will be pinned on you. We in the public really can't evaluate whether he shows signs of guilt or has anything in his background that would make him a person of interest because he has been protected from the public eye. I don't know what I think of him. I think he's probably not that great of a friend for leaving Britney to sink or swim in the media. Schon could add a lot to what happened as I'm more interested in their conversation after the two walked off. I'm less interested, as I said, in whatever argument they had. Tyler might have felt slighted, ignored, or not given the proper respect and gotten angry, regardless of how true that was. But Schon could tell us what he and Tyler talked about, or what Tyler said as he went away. It sounds like either Tyler wanted to be alone and that's why Schon left him, or Schon gave up on trying to reason with him, and just left him where he was. I'm thinking it was the former, that Tyler wanted a few minutes alone, maybe to smoke, maybe to clear his head. It is possible that Schon was involved in Tyler's disappearance, but without anything to go on, I'd rather wait for more information. What truly worries me is the bodies of water that were within easy walking distance of Tyler. Everyone here on Websleuths have seen many cases of young men going off alone, having had a few drinks, and then end up being found dead in water. For whatever reason. I don't recall if the ponds were dragged. If anyone remembers? But, it's my belief Tyler is there, somewhere. My hope is that someone in the near future will stumble across his remains. I hate to think he's dead, since he seems like a really nice person, good father, husband, provider. It's just so sad.

 

[wyome]

Oh, found it. Last pinged 3:53 a.m. at Morse Crossing and Stelzer. This article also said they searched a pond near here and found no clues.

Police release audio in search for man who was last seen near Easton

 

[pdxalyssa]

Yes, I went to the spot last week where his phone last pinged according to the map provided by LE (attached) at 3:53AM. It is the far corner of Abbott Labs property. You can see the top of the Hilton Hotel from there and it is very lit and iconic at night (you can see it from almost anywhere on this map, photo attached). But maybe he is a dude and just didn't know what the building looked like? He is clearly headed toward the hotel according to the map...and if he kept walking in that direction, when he spoke to Britney again at 4:10 would have been close as he says. If he somehow got turned around and went in the opposite direction he would have been close to the swampy area they have searched multiple times. However, as of the end of the map, he is headed in the right direction.

I think my biggest question is about what data LE has about his location and cell phone usage AFTER 3:53AM - clearly it was on because he spoke to Britney again. Also, it seems to me LE is holding that info back. If so, why? Maybe they suspect foul play of some sort?

 

[wyome]

Yes, I went to the spot last week where his phone last pinged according to the map provided by LE (attached) at 3:53AM. It is the far corner of Abbott Labs property. You can see the top of the Hilton Hotel from there and it is very lit and iconic at night (you can see it from almost anywhere on this map, photo attached). But maybe he is a dude and just didn't know what the building looked like? He is clearly headed toward the hotel according to the map...and if he kept walking in that direction, when he spoke to Britney again at 4:10 would have been close as he says. If he somehow got turned around and went in the opposite direction he would have been close to the swampy area they have searched multiple times. However, as of the end of the map, he is headed in the right direction.

I think my biggest question is about what data LE has about his location and cell phone usage AFTER 3:53AM - clearly it was on because he spoke to Britney again. Also, it seems to me LE is holding that info back. If so, why? Maybe they suspect foul play of some sort?

That's a great point. I don't know why they would exclude those 17-18 minutes before his phone died (assuming it did).

Police ping map starts at 3:21 a.m., and at that point, Tyler's directly south of the hotel. So it would seem that it was pretty soon after they arrived at the hotel, that he went into angry drunk mode. Probably embarrassed he fell, his wife and friend perhaps embarrassed him further explaining that they ARE at the hotel. Ego and alcohol then fueled the flight response. I think based on where his phone pinged in relation to the hotel @ 3:21, the "return fall/snipping/storming off" happened within a minute or two of getting out of that uber.

I'm guessing the interchange between Brittany and Schon took less than 2 minutes before he started walking after him. This probably included a minute or less of pleading for him to come back before deciding Tyler would go after him. And at the rate he was walking off according to the pings, it seemed Tyler's walk was brisk.

So I'm thinking he stormed away around 3:19-3:20 and Tyler followed a couple of minutes later in the same direction. Brittany says Tyler showed up back at the hotel right after her first call from Tyler @ 3:37 a.m. Has there been any indication that Schon ever caught up with him at all?? There doesn't seem to be any indication that Tyler stopped moving. Based on the time-line, Schon was gone for about 16 minutes.

When Tyler does talk to Brittany @ 3:37 a.m., he says he's sorry and just walking around the block. Three minutes later, the pings show him walking through the woods around DeVry university campus. In his 4:10 a.m. call, he says he's in the woods but can see the hotel, which is bizarre because I don't see any "woods" where he last pings. Unless he did a 180 and walked the 17 minutes into the woods directly south. Which doesn't make any sense.

Does anyone know what pond LE searched several times?

خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

 

[wyome]

My bad, looking at the ping map again, Tyler does seem to have slowed down from 3:30-3:32 a.m. at the corner of Chagrin Dr. and Easton Cmns road. If he caught up with him, it was probably there and would make sense time-wise with Schon's return to hotel.

 

[pdxalyssa]

There really is nothing I would consider "woods" in the area at all. However, Brittany says that they are not outdoorsy and Tyler's definition of woods could be just a couple trees. Inside the oval of trees, marked on the map at 3:40 (he called Brittany and apologized at 3:37am, so right there), he also calls that woods. I drove the entire map and you can see either edge of the trees (or in other words, straight through them). And that goes for almost any patch of trees in the area. The patches are small and from the edge of the trees, you can see where they end. So it would be really hard to get lost there.

I am also trying to figure out exactly where was searched and by who and how many times. Really, if he was there, he should have been easily found. The area is not that big and bustling any given day.

I am also curious to know if Abbott Labs (where he is 3:49am to 3:53am) has a security guard or cameras. He walked right up to the building and it seems they likely would have one if not both.

 

[Spartygirl]

Is ID televised a resource that is allowed here?
ID did an interview with some pretty interesting footage of that night.
I can post links once I know if approved or not

 

[0101ABA]

Is ID televised a resource that is allowed here?
ID did an interview with some pretty interesting footage of that night.
I can post links once I know if approved or not

Yes, ID televised is an approved source as long as links can be provided. HTH Thanks for asking.

 

[velvta]

The new ID Discovery episode was interesting. It looks like Schon and Tyler had a little more of a tussle between them than I knew before. It looks like Schon may have tried to stop Tyler from walking off, and bring him inside, and Tyler physically separated himself from Schon's grasp. It's also nice to see engagement from the officer in charge of the investigation with media, especially confirming that searches of the bodies of water have been done.

 

[momrids6]

The ID episode shows and tells of waist deep water. I think they simply haven't found him in there yet. It was cold, he was intoxicated- and the phone just stops. Sounds like he fell while walking in the water.

 

[Vail]

Where Did Tyler Davis Go? | The Missing

Here is the video. In it, Brit recounts the story and additional footage is shown such as what looks like a Facebook video of them in the club, the CCTV of Tyler getting out of the taxi, the CCTV of Tyler crossing a parking lot (perviously shown in news clips), and some great footage of the area at night during this time of year (showing the many 'wooded' areas and vanity treelines in the area and surrounding it.) and the audio clips we have from Tyler's phone.

Still from video where Tyler is fighting off both Brit and Schon before angrily walking off.

The detective specifies that all those pins on the LE map are his tracking Tyler's footsteps based on phone data, so we can be reasonably sure the path on the map is correct. (shown as the orange line on the google version - click the line to view the ping map image Tyler Davis - خرائطي على Google)

I'm not sure how exacting whoever made his namus profile was, but it places his last location in the woods off Vision Dr. Here is a marker and its proximity to the last ping pinned on the detective's map:

I personally think the highest probability is he is in one of the the swampy wooded areas off Stelzer. For example look at this spot right here directly across from the hotel - I'm not sure if it was exactly like this in Feb 2019, but that water could have been iced over or invisible at night and is right off the walking areas - anyone could just walk right into it.

 

[tarabull]

The ID episode shows and tells of waist deep water. I think they simply haven't found him in there yet. It was cold, he was intoxicated- and the phone just stops. Sounds like he fell while walking in.

BBM above, fwiw

Shades of Henry McCabe (RIP HM) who disappeared while on foot after a night out and was found in water & was leaving a voicemail when he fell in

Found Deceased - MN - Henry McCabe, 31, Mounds View, 7 September 2015

(I had to edit my post as initially I was thinking of Tim Cunningham who was also found in water but he had entirely different circumstances...)

 

[Spartygirl]

Where Did Tyler Davis Go? | The Missing

Here is the video. In it, Brit recounts the story and additional footage is shown such as what looks like a Facebook video of them in the club, the CCTV of Tyler getting out of the taxi, the CCTV of Tyler crossing a parking lot (perviously shown in news clips), and some great footage of the area at night during this time of year (showing the many 'wooded' areas and vanity treelines in the area and surrounding it.) and the audio clips we have from Tyler's phone.

Still from video where Tyler is fighting off both Brit and Schon before angrily walking off.View attachment 244935

The detective specifies that all those pins on the LE map are his tracking Tyler's footsteps based on phone data, so we can be reasonably sure the path on the map is correct. (shown as the orange line on the google version - click the line to view the ping map image Tyler Davis - خرائطي على Google)

I'm not sure how exacting whoever made his namus profile was, but it places his last location in the woods off Vision Dr. Here is a marker and its proximity to the last ping pinned on the detective's map:

View attachment 244936

I personally think the highest probability is he is in one of the the swampy wooded areas off Stelzer. For example look at this spot right here directly across from the hotel - I'm not sure if it was exactly like this in Feb 2019, but that water could have been iced over or invisible at night and is right off the walking areas - anyone could just walk right into it.

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Thanks everyone for bringing it forward in here. @Vail @momrids6 @velvta
I was going to post it last night but wanted to ask first and this is first chance I have had to get back in here to post it but you all are on it LOL

 

[TatianaBarbie]

Where Did Tyler Davis Go? | The Missing

Here is the video. In it, Brit recounts the story and additional footage is shown such as what looks like a Facebook video of them in the club, the CCTV of Tyler getting out of the taxi, the CCTV of Tyler crossing a parking lot (perviously shown in news clips), and some great footage of the area at night during this time of year (showing the many 'wooded' areas and vanity treelines in the area and surrounding it.) and the audio clips we have from Tyler's phone.

Still from video where Tyler is fighting off both Brit and Schon before angrily walking off.View attachment 244935

The detective specifies that all those pins on the LE map are his tracking Tyler's footsteps based on phone data, so we can be reasonably sure the path on the map is correct. (shown as the orange line on the google version - click the line to view the ping map image Tyler Davis - خرائطي على Google)

I'm not sure how exacting whoever made his namus profile was, but it places his last location in the woods off Vision Dr. Here is a marker and its proximity to the last ping pinned on the detective's map:

View attachment 244936

I personally think the highest probability is he is in one of the the swampy wooded areas off Stelzer. For example look at this spot right here directly across from the hotel - I'm not sure if it was exactly like this in Feb 2019, but that water could have been iced over or invisible at night and is right off the walking areas - anyone could just walk right into it.

View attachment 244938

Thank you, @Vail, for your excellent post. Some of those video clips were new to me.

On one of your maps, you showed the location marked by Tyler's NamUs entry. We had a long discussion on Tyler's thread, back when the NamUs entry was first linked, about that location just being the center point of the zip code area that Tyler was last known to be. Therefore, it would not be marking a known location where Tyler was, just the center point for Easton, Columbus, OH.

 

[Steelslady]

The new ID Discovery episode was interesting. It looks like Schon and Tyler had a little more of a tussle between them than I knew before. It looks like Schon may have tried to stop Tyler from walking off, and bring him inside, and Tyler physically separated himself from Schon's grasp. It's also nice to see engagement from the officer in charge of the investigation with media, especially confirming that searches of the bodies of water have been done.

My thoughts- if you have to hire a lawyer to answer for you, then you're guilty of something.

 

[chimpface]

My thoughts- if you have to hire a lawyer to answer for you, then you're guilty of something.

Respectfully I completely disagree. I wouldn't answer any questions with LE regarding a single thing without representation.

 

[neesaki]

The ID episode shows and tells of waist deep water. I think they simply haven't found him in there yet. It was cold, he was intoxicated- and the phone just stops. Sounds like he fell while walking in the water.

He could have fell. Or... according to the info had a “tussle” with Schon. And then what? It seems to me they had a somewhat contentious relationship.

 

[Valiant]

My thoughts- if you have to hire a lawyer to answer for you, then you're guilty of something.

A lot less innocent people would have ended up in jail had they had a lawyer when the police came calling.