GUILTY OH - Zachary Dunn for kidnap, rape of 6yo girl, Jackson, 2013

[matou]

Did the perp know her? I hope he suffers in jail and lives in pain forever.

 

[No Stone Unturned]

One of those articles upthread said that her father knew the perp. Not sure if she knew him or not.

 

[Miss_Diana]

@#@#$%$%&^&*($%^Q#$%@#Q#$

Is that allowed? :truce:

 

[scorekeeper]

http://www.10tv.com/

headline story on noon news; didn't get whole report but

mom was in court asking to be released
child was found naked and hiding in bushes
looking for possible other suspects
awaiting further medical reports to see if child was sexually abused
more charges may be added

I didn't get to hear the whole live report
hopefully, they will add the video to their site

 

[scorekeeper]

also, the guy charged was at the house on Wednesday

 

[scorekeeper]

http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/07/29/jackson-abduction-suspect-held-on-bond.html

 

[NJJohn]

One of those articles upthread said that her father knew the perp. Not sure if she knew him or not.

His gf is fb friends with FS Jr. Seems likely he is probably a regular customer in the family's (apparently 24 hour...) "electronics" selling business. Seems doubtful M knew him, although the teen, who according to his fb page also seems quite fond of "electronics", might have at least recognized him from "electronics" parties in the past. But whatever, we're not here to impugn the family. They had nothing to do with this particular crime.

 

[EGirl]

His gf is fb friends with FS Jr. Seems likely he is probably a regular customer in the family's (apparently 24 hour...) "electronics" selling business. Seems doubtful M knew him, although the teen, who according to his fb page also seems quite fond of "electronics", might have at least recognized him from "electronics" parties in the past. But whatever, we're not here to impugn the family. They had nothing to do with this particular crime.

I agree technically, but the parents have obviously failed this child. She should not have been available to one of their 'customers' at 2 am


JMO

 

[NJJohn]

I agree technically, but the parents have obviously failed this child. She should not have been available to one of their 'customers' at 2 am


JMO

I don't disagree, but on the other hand, while they're not the most upstanding citizens in the country, they don't seem evil and what happened to their girl is far more punishment than they deserve for this. Hopefully, it is a wakeup call for the entire family to re-think how they live.

 

[EGirl]

I don't disagree, but on the other hand, while they're not the most upstanding citizens in the country, they don't seem evil and what happened to their girl is far more punishment than they deserve for this. Hopefully, it is a wakeup call for the entire family to re-think how they live.

lease: yes!

 

[RazTaz]

From http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/07/29/jackson-abduction-suspect-held-on-bond.html
"The child's mother, (deleted), appeared in court on Monday on unrelated charges, including a probation violation.

A judge denied her request to be released"

Terrible. No matter what one might think of the family, the little girl needs her mama. Give her a ankle bracelet, escort her to the hospital, but let that woman see her baby!

 

[J1981]

From http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/07/29/jackson-abduction-suspect-held-on-bond.html
"The child's mother, (deleted), appeared in court on Monday on unrelated charges, including a probation violation.

A judge denied her request to be released"

Terrible. No matter what one might think of the family, the little girl needs her mama. Give her a ankle bracelet, escort her to the hospital, but let that woman see her baby!

ITA!! I don't know why she's in jail but police escort her to the hospital to hug her poor daughter. Both her and her daughters hearts are broken right now. I was hoping she was in on non-violent charges and because of that could be let out for a visit or therapy. Of course, I'm also hoping that the judge knows this but has other info we don't and that's why s/he ruled this way.

 

[NJJohn]

ITA!! I don't know why she's in jail but police escort her to the hospital to hug her poor daughter. Both her and her daughters hearts are broken right now. I was hoping she was in on non-violent charges and because of that could be let out for a visit or therapy. Of course, I'm also hoping that the judge knows this but has other info we don't and that's why s/he ruled this way.

Her rap sheet is long, but non-violent. Mostly stuff involving over-indulging like public intoxication, dui, indecent exposure, along with several child endangerment charges that I suspect are related to reckless behavior while wasted. Also several parole violations.

 

[IBsleuthin]

From http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/07/29/jackson-abduction-suspect-held-on-bond.html
"The child's mother, (deleted), appeared in court on Monday on unrelated charges, including a probation violation.

A judge denied her request to be released"

Terrible. No matter what one might think of the family, the little girl needs her mama. Give her a ankle bracelet, escort her to the hospital, but let that woman see her baby!

'Justice system' allows the person who did this to have been living free and roaming the neighborhood to do this but the mother has to remain in jail.

NICE JOB justice system.

 

[MsFacetious]

I think it's important to remember that this mother has something like 60 arrests.
This child is only 6 years old. I don't know how often she has even been around for her.
It is possible the judge has evidence which shows it wouldn't help this child to see her mother.
If my mother had been arrested that many times I don't think she would be a stable person in my life. :twocents:

 

[killarney rose]

Mods delete this if it isn't victim friendly, but I just have to stick MOO in.

Having come from a family of a similar background, taken from it and raised in a different family, while seeing my siblings and cousins raised in a family like the one being discussed, I can say from life experience and observation of how my life turned out as opposed to those of my relatives who were raised in a home like this that, his mother, does not deserve to be with her little girl. This family is unfit to raise her and I hope she is put with a family that will love and protect her from the horrible things she has experienced at the hands of her parents. If these parents had been good parents they would not have had CPS involvement, kids in foster care, nor been in jail.

 

[burbqueen]

Jesus Amen.

Would anyone here take their child over to be babysat by people with multiple arrests and selling "electronics" to whoever at all hours of the night? Not me. No way

I too came from a dad that was a pimp and had his "ladies" babysit me. My mom was running the streets and left me for hours in my crib while she neglected me. I thank god everyday that my grandmother said, enough. She removed me at a young age and fought for custody from her daughter and my dads family. Which consist of ex-cons, street pharmacists, and just the ghetto of the ghettoist.

I have cousins that grew up in what I call street life madness. Momma's and daddies in out of jail, illegal selling of god knows what, and neglect and abuse. They had babies at 15, work low wage jobs and have multiple instances of daily drama. Its a vicious cycle that never ends sometimes.

Just cause your parents love you isnt enough. My parents loved me, but were not mature enough to take care of me. They were a hot mess at the time. Now they are o.k. and i have a relationship with both.

As for me. I have a really good job. College graduate and had my first kid at 33. I had a rough teenage years, but I am who I am cause I was raised by a grandmother that taught me right from wrong and took care of me.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think it's important to remember that this mother has something like 60 arrests.
This child is only 6 years old. I don't know how often she has even been around for her.
It is possible the judge has evidence which shows it wouldn't help this child to see her mother.
If my mother had been arrested that many times I don't think she would be a stable person in my life. :twocents:

Where was CPS all this time? What services were offered previously?

 

[NJJohn]

Jesus Amen.

Would anyone here take their child over to be babysat by people with multiple arrests and selling "electronics" to whoever at all hours of the night? Not me. No way

I too came from a dad that was a pimp and had his "ladies" babysit me. My mom was running the streets and left me for hours in my crib while she neglected me. I thank god everyday that my grandmother said, enough. She removed me at a young age and fought for custody from her daughter and my dads family. Which consist of ex-cons, street pharmacists, and just the ghetto of the ghettoist.

I have cousins that grew up in what I call street life madness. Momma's and daddies in out of jail, illegal selling of god knows what, and neglect and abuse. They had babies at 15, work low wage jobs and have multiple instances of daily drama. Its a vicious cycle that never ends sometimes.

Just cause your parents love you isnt enough. My parents loved me, but were not mature enough to take care of me. They were a hot mess at the time. Now they are o.k. and i have a relationship with both.

As for me. I have a really good job. College graduate and had my first kid at 33. I had a rough teenage years, but I am who I am cause I was raised by a grandmother that taught me right from wrong and took care of me.

The two sides of this argument are actually not incompatible, as long as you separate the long-term welfare of the child from the short-term. In the long-term, it may very well be that the parents are unfit and the child is better off in foster care or wherever (I don't pretend to know enough about this family specfiically to make that call), but in the short-term while all that gets sorted out through CPS and the court system, it may be beneficial for the child to see her parents and let them give her a hug and tell her she is alright and nothing bad is going to happen any more.

 

[RazTaz]

I didn't say anything about her being allowed to go back to that living situation. And I, too, can speak of personal experience. I was adopted @ four and my adopted parents died when I was 13. Many people tried to fill those roles in my life. I've seen all kinds of living situations from both ends of the spectrum. I've still got people in my life that try to fill those roles. While we're close, and I still lean on them in difficult times, I still, to this day, sometimes want my mama and daddy. And no one else can feel that void.

And while I would hope that this baby girl has grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. that are trying to be there for her in that hospital room, I doubt any of them would be able to comfort her like her mama and daddy could.

And some of want to turn her over to the system? I shudder...