GUILTY OK - Anne Josette Hill, 16, Edmond, 10 April 2014

[JerseyGirl]

From the FB page:

At OKC Airpark again, maybe we'll get a tip today that leads us to Annie - and thanks to friends at the Edmond arts festival posting and handing out flyers today!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203998235863364&set=p.10203998235863364&type=1&theater

 

[Mari2013]

I've been a lurker on here for months and months, but this is my first post because it's the first one where I feel I have something relevant to add...

I live on the south side of Lake Hefner and my kids have been in the OKC private school system for about 15 years now. I have close family who recently retired from Casady, and my husband graduated from there. So, I have some thoughts about general things I know about the private school kids around this area (Nichols Hills).

The first thing I'd like to know is how long Anne went to Casady. I have always known the families of who my kids hung out with, as did my husband's parents, so if any of us ever needed to figure out where our kids were, it would take about 3 phone calls to track them down. This leads me to think that she hangs with kids outside of the private school system, which is also unusual around here. Her car also leads me to believe that. My kids had to have BMWs and Volvos, not an older car with racing stripes.

The same thing applies to the lady who was rumored to be searching for models. I don't know a lot of parents who would even follow up on that. In fact, my daughter was once approached by someone saying that at the same movie theater I'm assuming Anne went to, and I told her to give me the number, which I threw away. Most of us keep pretty close tabs on our kids and ask a lot of questions when they are approached by a stranger.

I guess my main point is that the private school community here is very close knit, including parents and students. If she had been with kids from Casady, I honestly think it would have been shaken out by now. This makes me wonder if the "bad people" were public school kids or older people that were known to be into drugs.

I don't think ANY of my kids have ever been to a party at random apartments in the metro area. The kids here tend to stay in groups, and house parties around Nichols Hills and southeast Edmond are the most common.

I grew up in Edmond playing at Fink Park, and went to UCO for both of my degrees. While Fink Park looks crazy wooded, it's not that big AT ALL. It would take no time to search that park, and it is surrounded by houses and the university.

Anyway, I tried to be coherent, but I was trying to hit a lot of the point I've read on this thread over the last couple of hours.:blushing:

 

[Mari2013]

One thing I meant to say but forgot to...

Her car was found close to the Lake Arcadia area, which is east of Edmond. When I was younger, we would go out there and party sometimes at night. Other than kids partying, it was usually pretty deserted at night (kids riding bikes around tripping or otherwise wasted, etc.). I really hope this area has been WELL searched because it seems to be the perfect place to go for privacy at night.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome, Mari! Glad you joined us. Your input is valuable. It helps to understand more of Annie Jo's circle (and also how the answers may be outside of that circle).

I haven't seen an answer on how long she has gone to Casady, but it is a good question. Her actions could be associated with people from her former school if it hasn't been too long. Kids sometimes feel pressured to do things outside their norm to be accepted in various groups besides their own.

Annie Jo is an honors student which means she also carries the somewhat nerdy stigma among her peers. While honor students are serious minded as a rule, they are no different than other teenagers wanting to fit in. I would like to know if she did fit in at Casady and/or if she set herself apart on purpose by the choice of a car or in other ways?

 

[Mari2013]

Welcome, Mari! Glad you joined us. Your input is valuable. It helps to understand more of Annie Jo's circle (and also how the answers may be outside of that circle).

I haven't seen an answer on how long she has gone to Casady, but it is a good question. Her actions could be associated with people from her former school if it hasn't been too long. Kids sometimes feel pressured to do things outside their norm to be accepted in various groups besides their own.

Annie Jo is an honors student which means she also carries the somewhat nerdy stigma among her peers. While honor students are serious minded as a rule, they are no different than other teenagers wanting to fit in. I would like to know if she did fit in at Casady and/or if she set herself apart on purpose by the choice of a car or in other ways?

Hmmm....good questions. I did notice that about one-quarter of her facebook friends are mutual friends of mine on FB (the families, not the kids LOL), so that would actually be pretty easy to find out over the next couple of days. But I also noticed that a lot of her FB friends are adults, or in college. I have a senior, and other than family, his friends are other kids his age. This was especially true when my kids were sophomores.

I did just ask my son about this. His school is also religiously affiliated and about 10 minutes from Casady. All the kids know she's missing, but there don't seem to be any rumors among the kids about WHY. Another thing that makes me think it's people outside of the private schools.

 

[JerseyGirl]

I assume that her connection to the older crowd stems from her job at Sonic.

I'm only assuming, but how else would a sophomore in high school know older, college-aged young adults.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Hmmm....good questions. I did notice that about one-quarter of her facebook friends are mutual friends of mine on FB (the families, not the kids LOL), so that would actually be pretty easy to find out over the next couple of days. But I also noticed that a lot of her FB friends are adults, or in college. I have a senior, and other than family, his friends are other kids his age. This was especially true when my kids were sophomores.

I did just ask my son about this. His school is also religiously affiliated and about 10 minutes from Casady. All the kids know she's missing, but there don't seem to be any rumors among the kids about WHY. Another thing that makes me think it's people outside of the private schools.

Kids do talk and rumors usually have a small amount of truth in them. If the kids are asking why then it does seem she wasn't confiding in others or openly hanging out with unknown people around her Casady friends.

It is interesting that some of the missing kids are friends on Facebook, too. It is a bit of a mystery how they know one another not going to the same school etc.

Off Topic (OT): Enjoy Senior year! Proms and pomp make for quite an exciting time.

 

[Mari2013]

I assume that her connection to the older crowd stems from her job at Sonic.

I'm only assuming, but how else would a sophomore in high school know older, college-aged young adults.

Yup. This makes me wonder WHICH Sonic she works at. Has anyone said?
Or like I said, if maybe she came to Casady from another school?

 

[LaborDayRN]

I assume that her connection to the older crowd stems from her job at Sonic.

I'm only assuming, but how else would a sophomore in high school know older, college-aged young adults.

Does she have older siblings by any chance?

 

[Mari2013]

Kids do talk and rumors usually have a small amount of truth in them. If the kids are asking why then it does seem she wasn't confiding in others or openly hanging out with unknown people around her Casady friends.

It is interesting that some of the missing kids are friends on Facebook, too. It is a bit of a mystery how they know one another not going to the same school etc.

Off Topic (OT): Enjoy Senior year! Proms and pomp make for quite an exciting time.

Prom weekend was crazy, but fun to watch

As for the kids knowing each other...there are maybe (?) 20 K-8 schools in OKC that feed into three private high schools on the north side. While they are still K-8, they are constantly meeting each other at their clubs, social events, camps, and sporting activities.

What I didn't know is that some of the missing were FB friends. Is that what you meant? Because that would be VERY strange and creepy to me.

 

[OkieGranny]

Does she have older siblings by any chance?

Two brothers. At least one of them is older, not sure about the other.

 

[Mari2013]

Does she have older siblings by any chance?

Aren't both of her brothers older than her? IDK...maybe I just assumed that. Otherwise, one of them would have also probably been at Casady on Friday and would also have a lot of insight into her friends. Just a thought. Plus, in pics they look older, like adult salt-of-the-earth kind of guys.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Her car was found at 723 Rockridge Drive in Edmond. That's right near UCO, less than 3 miles (2.6 mi). It's an apartment on a residential street. Looks like off campus student living.

Street view of the parking spot the car was found.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.646...!1e1!3m2!1sG23W854SvvAVSyhdUaSuhQ!2e0!6m1!1e1

Map from UCO to the car.
http://mapq.st/1gRROrA

Following up on car location.

 

[sophiebelle]

My own daughter was more mature than her peers in high school. She didn't care for kids that just hung out or those who were not interested in grades and college. Guys her age held no interest for her. I knew this and she was on a tight rope with me. No way, at age 16, was she going out on Saturday night to wander around, due to this mindset. She didn't date much because anybody who was not in school was out of the question with me. When she got to college, she met somebody a year older and was fine with him, and they married after graduation. But teens, no matter how mature and smart, can make bad choices if they prefer older friends, or friends out of the interest range of their current friends. I think that somehow figures in here. Has anybody seen a bff speaking out? I am certainly not saying Annie Jo's mother didn't monitor her or allowed her to do anything she wanted. She was calling her the night she went missing, but I think there were things she didn't know.

 

[Mari2013]

My own daughter was more mature than her peers in high school. She didn't care for kids that just hung out or those who were not interested in grades and college. Guys her age held no interest for her. I knew this and she was on a tight rope with me. No way, at age 16, was she going out on Saturday night to wander around, due to this mindset. She didn't date much because anybody who was not in school was out of the question with me. When she got to college, she met somebody a year older and was fine with him, and they married after graduation. But teens, no matter how mature and smart, can make bad choices if they prefer older friends, or friends out of the interest range of their current friends. I think that somehow figures in here. Has anybody seen a bff speaking out? I am certainly not saying Annie Jo's mother didn't monitor her or allowed her to do anything she wanted. She was calling her the night she went missing, but I think there were things she didn't know.

It's funny that you say this...
Last night when my son got home from watching the game, I asked him more questions about what the kids are saying about what happened to Anne, and his remark was "she had a boyfriend who was like 25-years-old. She just ran away with him."
Now, I don't really believe at all that she ran away, but if it's true (which I don't know for sure), that info puts a new spin on what could have happened. What kind of man in his mid-20's would be interested in just dating a sophomore in high school? this just makes me more afraid for her .

 

[sophiebelle]

It's funny that you say this...
Last night when my son got home from watching the game, I asked him more questions about what the kids are saying about what happened to Anne, and his remark was "she had a boyfriend who was like 25-years-old. She just ran away with him."
Now, I don't really believe at all that she ran away, but if it's true (which I don't know for sure), that info puts a new spin on what could have happened. What kind of man in his mid-20's would be interested in just dating a sophomore in high school? this just makes me more afraid for her .

Well anything is possible since nothing is known here. It seems if she had a bf, or other friends not known to her family, there would be some sign of them via phone, computer etc. I don't know much about technology, but I also don't know how people hide communication. Someone may enlighten me??

 

[Mari2013]

Well anything is possible since nothing is known here. It seems if she had a bf, or other friends not known to her family, there would be some sign of them via phone, computer etc. I don't know much about technology, but I also don't know how people hide communication. Someone may enlighten me??

There are web-based chat sites where you can log in and chat with someone, and when you log out, there is no trace of the conversation on your device. I think these sites are popular among cheaters, but when my daughter had a boyfriend that I absolutely despised, this was how she was communicating with him. It just shows up as data-usage, like the user was on the Internet or checking email.

 

[sophiebelle]

There are web-based chat sites where you can log in and chat with someone, and when you log out, there is no trace of the conversation on your device. I think these sites are popular among cheaters, but when my daughter had a boyfriend that I absolutely despised, this was how she was communicating with him. It just shows up as data-usage, like the user was on the Internet or checking email.

Where there's a will, there's a way I suppose. The ones investigating this have given NO information. I always think after a certain amount of time has passed, it's time to talk. Either they know something we don't, or they are lost as well.

 

[OkieGranny]

I raised two teenagers in the '90s and that was hard enough, but we didn't have the internet back then. Fought tooth and nail with my daughter over the usual things — curfew, sketchy friends, wanting a tattoo — but she's 32 now and we're best friends (she did get that tat when she turned 18 and regrets it, lol). I'm so thankful she didn't make any mistakes that couldn't be fixed. So much can go horribly wrong in just one night or in a single encounter with a person who has bad intentions.

Now I'm raising my son's 9-year-old daughter and I'm scared to death. She's going to be a teen in just a few short years; how do I keep her safe? SnapChat, Kik, sexting — even the most vigilant parent can be blindsided by some of the things kids get into these days. I'm studying hard, trying to stay ahead of the curve but, omg, it's terrifying! If it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't know anything about this stuff.

 

[OldSteve]

Where there's a will, there's a way I suppose. The ones investigating this have given NO information. I always think after a certain amount of time has passed, it's time to talk. Either they know something we don't, or they are lost as well.

Agree! IMO surveillance info, be it from cameras or eyeball, is so important; and that's where LE could reach out for information. Someone could have seen something and may not be aware that it's important to case.