GUILTY OK - Christopher Lane, 22, Australian, slain in thrill killing, Duncan, 16 Aug 2013

  • #241
Another duo comparable to those killing would be, of course, Harris and Klebold, who talked endlessly in writing and on tape about how well known they'd be after their murders (the Herald article above states how the defendants in this case were out to make a name for themselves).
 
  • #242
As senseless as this crime is, I really hope our Aussie friends can come to see that this doesn't happen everyday, on every street in the United States. :sigh: UGH!

'Senseless' shooting of Australian Chris Lane sparks calls for U.S. boycott


By Hilary Whiteman, CNN

updated 7:52 AM EDT, Wed August 21, 2013

(CNN) -- They were younger than him, just teenagers who were driving around, apparently bored and looking for somebody to kill, according to police in Duncan, Oklahoma.

The indiscriminate shooting of Christopher Lane, a 23-year-old Australian who was living his dream of studying in the U.S. on a baseball scholarship, has repulsed many in his home country and led to calls for Australian tourists to boycott the United States.

"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," former Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer told CNN's Piers Morgan.

"People thinking of going to the USA for business or tourists trips should think carefully about it given the statistical fact you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in Australia per capita per million people."


Christopher Lane, from Australia, was gunned down in Duncan, Oklahoma, while he was out jogging last week. Police say he was killed by three teens who said they had nothing better to do. Police have now charged the three teens in Lane's death.

Police say Lane was on one of his regular runs through what's been described as the affluent town of Duncan on Friday at about 3 p.m. local time when a car carrying three teenagers drove up behind him.

"They pulled up behind him and shot him in the back then sped away," said Capt. Jay Evans of Duncan Police Department. "It could have been anybody -- it was such a random act."

Former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia: 'There is deep seated anger this time'

It was the indiscriminate nature of the attack that has shocked many in Australia.

One local newspaper, under mug shots of the three suspects, aged 15, 16 and 17, ran the headline: "Faces of Evil: The teens American police say shot our star."

At the time of writing, a Facebook page set up in his honor, R.I.P Christopher Lane, had more than 46,000 followers, many of whom described his murder as "senseless" and "tragic."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Christopher-Lane/155307978006875


http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/
 
  • #243
I think whomever has custody of or is raising James Edwards should be charged with negligence at the very least.
 
  • #244
As senseless as this crime is, I really hope our Aussie friends can come to see that this doesn't happen everyday, on every street in the United States. :sigh: UGH!

'Senseless' shooting of Australian Chris Lane sparks calls for U.S. boycott


By Hilary Whiteman, CNN

updated 7:52 AM EDT, Wed August 21, 2013

(CNN) -- They were younger than him, just teenagers who were driving around, apparently bored and looking for somebody to kill, according to police in Duncan, Oklahoma.

The indiscriminate shooting of Christopher Lane, a 23-year-old Australian who was living his dream of studying in the U.S. on a baseball scholarship, has repulsed many in his home country and led to calls for Australian tourists to boycott the United States.

"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," former Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer told CNN's Piers Morgan.

"People thinking of going to the USA for business or tourists trips should think carefully about it given the statistical fact you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in Australia per capita per million people."


Christopher Lane, from Australia, was gunned down in Duncan, Oklahoma, while he was out jogging last week. Police say he was killed by three teens who said they had nothing better to do. Police have now charged the three teens in Lane's death.


Michael Jones, 17, faces two charges: use of a vehicle and discharge of a weapon and accessory after the fact to murder in the first degree.


James Edwards Jr., 15, has been charged as an adult with felony murder in the first degree.


Chancey Luna, 16, has been charged as an adult with felony murder in the first degree.


Police say Lane was on one of his regular runs through what's been described as the affluent town of Duncan on Friday at about 3 p.m. local time when a car carrying three teenagers drove up behind him.

"They pulled up behind him and shot him in the back then sped away," said Capt. Jay Evans of Duncan Police Department. "It could have been anybody -- it was such a random act."

Former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia: 'There is deep seated anger this time'

It was the indiscriminate nature of the attack that has shocked many in Australia.

One local newspaper, under mug shots of the three suspects, aged 15, 16 and 17, ran the headline: "Faces of Evil: The teens American police say shot our star."

At the time of writing, a Facebook page set up in his honor, R.I.P Christopher Lane, had more than 46,000 followers, many of whom described his murder as "senseless" and "tragic."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Christopher-Lane/155307978006875


http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/

Murders involving guns happen quite often, though. Of course there's other methods as well, but gun violence here in the states is so far out of control and there's no end in sight. It's sad.
 
  • #245
Could somebody tell me how to post a YouTube video so that it shows up & all a person has to do is press play...instead of just the link?
 
  • #246
I think whomever has custody of or is raising James Edwards should be charged with negligence at the very least.

Yes, didn't the gun belong to him? How does a fifteen year old get hold of a gun? That can't be legal surely, not in a country where you have to be 21 to buy a beer.
 
  • #247
  • #248
See, even oh hilary whiteman from cnn in the article above at Softail's link got it wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/

snipped from link.

They were younger than him, just teenagers who were driving around, apparently bored and looking for somebody to kill, according to police in Duncan, Oklahoma.

bbm, every other news story had them spotting Christopher running past the residence they where at, not in a car just driving around.
 
  • #249
Another duo comparable to those killing would be, of course, Harris and Klebold, who talked endlessly in writing and on tape about how well known they'd be after their murders (the Herald article above states how the defendants in this case were out to make a name for themselves).

There are duos like
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng-Killed 11 to 25 people
Myra Hindley and Ian Brady-Moor Murders
Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow-Bonnie and Clyde
Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo-The Schoolgirl Killer
Andrew Golden and Mitchell Johnson-Westside Middle School Massacre
Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate-Natural Born Killers
Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb-Leopold and Loeb
Viktor Sayenko and Igor Suprunyuck-Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs

They can be killer, serial killers, spree killers, and mass murderers.
 
  • #250
  • #251
Man who dobbed in suspects accused of murdering Melbourne baseball player Chris Lane says his son was next
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ma...his-son-was-next/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461

This caught my attention.

Mr Johnson claimed that Edwards Jr had threatened the life of his own 17-year-old son <name redacted> on Facebook. His son was at home with his mother and sisters near the church when he received the death threat.

"They threatened to kill my son because they are in a gang, the Crips, and were trying to get my son in it and I wouldn't let him do it.

"I told him he couldn't run with those boys. He's a little terrified."

Mr Johnson said the Crips, a predominantly African American street gang that began in Los Angeles in 1969 and had been in Duncan for the past few years.


I think this could be some gang type crime.
 
  • #252
  • #253
Man who dobbed in suspects accused of murdering Melbourne baseball player Chris Lane says his son was next
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ma...his-son-was-next/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461

This caught my attention.

Mr Johnson claimed that Edwards Jr had threatened the life of his own 17-year-old son <name redacted> on Facebook. His son was at home with his mother and sisters near the church when he received the death threat.

"They threatened to kill my son because they are in a gang, the Crips, and were trying to get my son in it and I wouldn't let him do it.

"I told him he couldn't run with those boys. He's a little terrified."

Mr Johnson said the Crips, a predominantly African American street gang that began in Los Angeles in 1969 and had been in Duncan for the past few years.


I think this could be some gang type crime.

Refresh your page my friend then look at the posts above. We're all kinda scratching our heads now, huh? Racially charged hate crime it very well could be. :truce:
 
  • #254
Interesting to see Zodiac Killer is a thrill killer. I always thought he was a serial killer.

So did I. Can they overlap?
 
  • #255
Refresh your page my friend then look at the posts above. We're all kinda scratching our heads now, huh? Racially charged hate crime it very well could be. :truce:

I am aware of it.
 
  • #256
  • #257
I am aware of it.

I am so sad. It's frightening that gangs even exist. Do you think this could be an initiation sort of thing?

I applaud Mr Johnson for going on record to report this. He endangered himself by doing so. That took a lot of bravery. :twocents:
 
  • #258
So did I. Can they overlap?

No they can't. Thrill kills and serial killings are two separate categories and the Zodiac is a serial killer. That list on Wikipedia is riddled with errors.
 
  • #259
No they can't. Thrill kills and serial killings are two separate categories and the Zodiac is a serial killer. That list on Wikipedia is riddled with errors.

It was just a list to glean examples from if you guys wanted to compare thrill kills. It wasn't posted to set this thread off topic. Start a thread in the Jury Room about Wikepedia if you want to continue to discuss their accuracy.

Let's get back on track please. :tyou:
 
  • #260
I wonder if there is a way to detect those wanting to "thrill kill" and prevent it from happening? Did these boys tell people about this desire beforehand? Did other cases have any warning signs?

I read a book about Leopold and Loeb years ago. I don't remember reading that they shared their dark secret with anyone else.
 

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