OK OK - Daryn Collie, 32, Guthrie, 26 May 2013

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STEADFAST said:
I'm not treating the family's info as third party in most circumstances. For instance, when the stepmom says she called Daryn on the evening of the 26th, I consider that as good a fact as we're going to get. But if she writes that Daryn and his brother went back to Daryn's to pick up a backpack, then she only knows this because the brother told her, and I think it is on less solid ground info-wise. Same as if she relates something that JJ has told her. If LE tells her something and she relates it, that seems solid. But if she writes that JJ has told her that LE said something, then no. I believe the stepmother, but I have no reason to trust that she has good judgement about whether other people are telling the truth or not or whether they are remembering correctly.
Did that make sense to anyone?
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The initial comment that you said you were skittish about was asking about adding the info re Daryn's dad getting the call from Daryn's employer on Wednesday, May 29:

"Can we/shall we add Daryn's boss calling his dad to say he hadnt showed up on the Monday or Tuesday to the timeline, Steadfast?"

I can understand being wary of SHC putting too much faith in the words of people she doesn't really know who have assured her that they know Daryn...believe me I am right there in that camp alongside ya. But in this instance, we are talking about a conversation her husband had with Daryn's boss. Daryn's dad. Her husband. The event that precipitated all subsequent events. Unless I'm totally misreading this and I in fact am the third party because I am the one that verified the information with the family?

I'll leave it up to ya'll to decide what goes in and what stays out and under what terms which happens when. I mentioned upthread (post 460 I think) that I have notified the family that the questions I submitted this afternoon will be the last ones I submit unless and until there is a major break in the case. Hopefully by then they'll be so much MSM that we do not have to ask Daryn's folks one single thing. Part of my decision to quit asking them to verify information was because I too, frankly, have seen SHC pummeled like a rag doll and played like a fiddle "over there," and I am reluctant to accept anything she verifies based on what she's been told by certain parties.

I had another paragraph here that argued in favor of posting information of a conversation between her husband and the employer and relayed to her by her husband, but in light of certain recent private, personal interactions with the family, I will just say that I will certainly accept your decision to go straight LE/MSM from here on out and just leave it at that.
 
  • #483
Treelights said:
But there was a license plate found under the seat...... Do you think it was a "Dealer Tag" plate that should have been in the back window when showing this car before it was sold? You know, like when you take a car for a test drive at the auto dealer, they have to put a temporary metal tag in the back window?
That tag could easily be an Oklahoma tag, if the car was purchased through a dealer in Oklahoma and just forgot to be taken out? In My Opinion......
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I guess I was thinking from one of the previous states I lived in, you received TWO plates (1 front 1 back) but you were only required to put them on the back. Most people used both, but some people didn't like the look of them with both. So I was thinking that if in OK they got two, he only put one on and put the extra one behind the seat. **note I do not know if he did receive two, or if it was a dealer plate, etc.**

STEADFAST said:
Do people even carjack 6-year-old, orange Dodge Nitros? Not a popular car to steal and not a good choice for stealth driving.
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That is why I think that if the car was stolen/carjacked it was a last minute, get-the-heck-outta-Dodge, I need to run now type of thing. No one in their right mind would want to steal an orange Nitro if they wanted to stay under the radar.

Sorry- these were in answer to an earlier posting of mine but I am just now getting to them.
 
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my_tee_mouse said:
The initial comment that you said you were skittish about was asking about adding the info re Daryn's dad getting the call from Daryn's employer on Wednesday, May 29:

"Can we/shall we add Daryn's boss calling his dad to say he hadnt showed up on the Monday or Tuesday to the timeline, Steadfast?"

I can understand being wary of SHC putting too much faith in the words of people she doesn't really know who have assured her that they know Daryn...believe me I am right there in that camp alongside ya. But in this instance, we are talking about a conversation her husband had with Daryn's boss. Daryn's dad. Her husband. The event that precipitated all subsequent events. Unless I'm totally misreading this and I in fact am the third party because I am the one that verified the information with the family?

I'll leave it up to ya'll to decide what goes in and what stays out and under what terms which happens when. I mentioned upthread (post 460 I think) that I have notified the family that the questions I submitted this afternoon will be the last ones I submit unless and until there is a major break in the case. Hopefully by then they'll be so much MSM that we do not have to ask Daryn's folks one single thing. Part of my decision to quit asking them to verify information was because I too, frankly, have seen SHC pummeled like a rag doll and played like a fiddle "over there," and I am reluctant to accept anything she verifies based on what she's been told by certain parties.

I had another paragraph here that argued in favor of posting information of a conversation between her husband and the employer and relayed to her by her husband, but in light of certain recent private, personal interactions with the family, I will just say that I will certainly accept your decision to go straight LE/MSM from here on out and just leave it at that.
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You're never the 3rd party, Mytee! :blowkiss:
 
  • #485
STEADFAST said:
You're never the 3rd party, Mytee! :blowkiss:
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I know. I'm the life of the party...just sometimes late to the dance...but I had to be polite and ask! :) :floorlaugh:
 
  • #486
Daryn attended the ren fair 5/18 and 5/19? Is this correct? Looked at tons taken the previous weekend. Lol. Was it mentioned on WS if they were in costume? I have additional ones from that weekend I can look at, but I didn't realize how many people attended. Is there also an online source for pictures? I think I saw one linked, but as usual my WS search isn't working. TIA
 
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Sat...5/18...................Muskogee Renaissance Festival ^
Sun...5/19..................Muskogee Renaissance Festival ^
Mon..5/20..................Muskogee –Skiatook -- Del City ^
...................2:56pm...Moore tornado, 7 miles from Del City
Tue...5/21..................OKC-NYC*
Wed..5/22..................NYC*
Thu...5/23..................NYC*
Fri.....5/24..................NYC*
Sat...5/25...?..............NYC*
Sun...5/26...?.............Arrives at OKC airport
...................9:37pm...At Job Corps in Guthrie, OK, dropping off brother

Wed..5/29.................Missing person report filed with Guthrie LE by dad and stepmom

Fri....5/31..................NAMUS entry created for Daryn

Mon..6/3....am..........Car spotted Hood River County, OR, on I-35 near the head of ZigZag trail.*
Thu...6/6.....?.............Car identified as Daryn's by LE



^ means fb info from JJ
 
  • #488
Anna1964 said:
Daryn attended the ren fair 5/18 and 5/19? Is this correct? Looked at tons taken the previous weekend. Lol. Was it mentioned on WS if they were in costume? I have additional ones from that weekend I can look at, but I didn't realize how many people attended. Is there also an online source for pictures? I think I saw one linked, but as usual my WS search isn't working. TIA
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I don't think it was stated here on WS that they were in costume, no.

Tons? You poor child! :websleuther:
 
  • #489
Off to bed. My tail is dragging. :offtobed:

You two should get some rest too. You are about out of midnight oil!!! :seeya::seeya:
 
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Starting point:
Guthrie Job Corps
3106 West University Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-9930

Closest Gas Station that was open:
(Closes at 10 P.M. on Sunday)

Rainbow Gas & Snack
2517 West Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-8086

-Open until 9 but has pay at the pumps
MSS Super Store Inc
923 West Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-8868

-Closed at 9 P.M.
G Mart
823 West Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-4999

-Closed at 10 P.M. *out of the way a bit
Tony's Quick Stop
901 North Wentz Street
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-429

-Open until 930 P.M. (has pay at the pumps)
Ranger Oil Co
1417 East Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-7158

-Open 24 hours (right by I35 if taking Northern entrance *slightly longer route)
Love's Travel Stop
2530 East Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 260-0850

-Open until 10 P.M.
Petty's Pit Stop
1416 South Division Street
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 260-0200

-Open 24 hours (along route if taking S entrance to get on I35 to cut time)
Love's Travel Stop
1223 South Division Street
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-1884

-11 P.M. Close time
Ong Guthrie Services Center
205 Sigma Place
Guthrie, OK 73044
888) 609-2410

-No answer from phone, not certain if still in business
Supermart
115 East Roller Coaster Road
Guthrie, OK 73044

-11 P.M. Close time on Sundays
Rodeo Corner
901 E Seward Rd Guthrie, OK 73044
405) 282-2791

Here is the list of gas stations and close times, I am getting ready to try and conquer a new map, heading into the vast wilderness of Google or Bing... I have tried to attempt this dreaded task once before an failed miserably, I will try again until I persevere.... (Wish I had map skills...) IMHO
 
  • #491
No update yet.... Grrrr!!! Steadfast, Anna, and Portabella... I love you :cheer:
 
  • #492
Amazing work Portabella! Thank you!

Hoping for some good news today. Failing that, an update of any sort...and failing that...maybe just a little something in MSM!
 
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(Clang-clang) And it's 8:35 a.m. here in Okie-land, no new MSM.

Two formidable foes to garnering attention for this case: in OK, it's pretty near summer, and people have begun to drown in our lakes and rivers while jumping right in, noodling for catfish, driving boats wrecklessly, and just plain cramping up. So the media's full of 'em. Then there's the possibility that this is a voluntary thing. Meanwhile, in the Pac NW , the naked teen from Vancouver who left camp on "a spiritual quest" has not been found AND, as that's in Skamania County WA, just across the border from Hood River County OR, it's been dominating the "missing person" slot in local coverage there.
 
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wfgodot said:
(Clang-clang) And it's 8:35 a.m. here in Okie-land, no new MSM.

Two formidable foes to garnering attention for this case: in OK, it's pretty near summer, and people have begun to drown in our lakes and rivers while jumping right in, noodling for catfish, driving boats wrecklessly, and just plain cramping up. So the media's full of 'em. Meanwhile, in Pac NW-land, the naked teen from Vancouver who left camp on "a spiritual quest" has not been found AND, as that's in Skamania County WA, just across the border from Hood River County OR, it's been dominating the "missing person" slot in local coverage there.
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Thanks for keeping lookout, wfgodot. Let's hope we have some more coverage soon! :please:

I am really feeling for Daryn's family and friends today. They must be worried sick. :( It is easy to put aside the human feeling behind cases like this, but trying for a moment to put myself in their shoes, the thought is just devastating.
 
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Portabella said:
Starting point:
Guthrie Job Corps
3106 West University Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-9930

Closest Gas Station that was open:
(Closes at 10 P.M. on Sunday)

Rainbow Gas & Snack
2517 West Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-8086

-Open until 9 but has pay at the pumps
MSS Super Store Inc
923 West Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-8868

-Closed at 9 P.M.
G Mart
823 West Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-4999

-Closed at 10 P.M. *out of the way a bit
Tony's Quick Stop
901 North Wentz Street
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-429

-Open until 930 P.M. (has pay at the pumps)
Ranger Oil Co
1417 East Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-7158

-Open 24 hours (right by I35 if taking Northern entrance *slightly longer route)
Love's Travel Stop
2530 East Noble Avenue
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 260-0850

-Open until 10 P.M.
Petty's Pit Stop
1416 South Division Street
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 260-0200

-Open 24 hours (along route if taking S entrance to get on I35 to cut time)
Love's Travel Stop
1223 South Division Street
Guthrie, OK 73044
(405) 282-1884

-11 P.M. Close time
Ong Guthrie Services Center
205 Sigma Place
Guthrie, OK 73044
888) 609-2410

-No answer from phone, not certain if still in business
Supermart
115 East Roller Coaster Road
Guthrie, OK 73044

-11 P.M. Close time on Sundays
Rodeo Corner
901 E Seward Rd Guthrie, OK 73044
405) 282-2791

Here is the list of gas stations and close times, I am getting ready to try and conquer a new map, heading into the vast wilderness of Google or Bing... I have tried to attempt this dreaded task once before an failed miserably, I will try again until I persevere.... (Wish I had map skills...) IMHO
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Wow. I'm past impressed! As far as the map goes...I sincerely hope you took your bread crumbs with you!!! Did you tie a rope around your middle? Do you have your GPS devices? Snacks? I have faith that you will persevere!!!!
 
  • #496
Okay, I hope I'm following the correct instructions as given by imamaze. (Thank you, btw, for that clarification!) If I'm not please feel free to remove or modify! :)

I just thought that the comment left by his girlfriend at 00:44 GMT (you will have to minus the time difference depending where you are!) is really interesting. Her thoughts on the case so far...it seems she is thinking along the same lines as so many of us, myself included.

The post is here. Scroll to the bottom for the comment!

ETA my own thoughts...I am thinking along her lines. And I also want to add, the thing that kinda makes me believe it the most is that the cat is missing too. It was so precious to him, by the sounds of it. I think it's either with him, or he has made sure it's safe. It would just be too much of a coincidence that the cat was suddenly missing too.
 
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I am a total failure cannot figure out how to post this map to save my life....grrrrrr
 
  • #499
wfgodot said:
(Clang-clang) And it's 8:35 a.m. here in Okie-land, no new MSM.

Two formidable foes to garnering attention for this case: in OK, it's pretty near summer, and people have begun to drown in our lakes and rivers while jumping right in, noodling for catfish, driving boats wrecklessly, and just plain cramping up. So the media's full of 'em. Then there's the possibility that this is a voluntary thing. Meanwhile, in the Pac NW , the naked teen from Vancouver who left camp on "a spiritual quest" has not been found AND, as that's in Skamania County WA, just across the border from Hood River County OR, it's been dominating the "missing person" slot in local coverage there.
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Nodding my head as I read this. Yeah, drownings take the coverage. There is a known victim, and often the victim is a young adult or younger. And you have those stories about semi-stars who get "drawnk" and drive a boat; and when I saw the "naked teen" story, I knew that would "trump" Daryn's story.

*Sigh. If only there was something about this particular missing person's "story" that had an edge to it.* Something that would make it just pop out and beat out what certain spoiled repeat offenders wore to court; what bad some bad boy pro football player did at a probation plea hearing to tick off a judge; and the story of the woman with 45,000 fridge magnets.

If only.
 
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