OK OK - Daryn Collie, 32, Guthrie, 26 May 2013

[my_tee_mouse]

And to add to Portabella's anecdotes, I don't think that the comment about blaming a girl for her own rape was anything to do with people from Oklahoma. It was said, I believe, as an example of the victim-blaming attitude that can oft be taken by people, regardless of who they are or where they come from. So, in this case, writing Daryn off as a 'weirdo' or something similar because he wasn't "ordinary" in the way he identified as a 'furry,' for example, and thus not taking a great deal of interest in the case.

I'm sorry if any of the comments on this thread have upset you. I personally have not felt like anyone has bashed Oklahoma or its residents in any general terms. Maybe offered some demographical 'analysis' of Guthrie itself as a place, but actually as someone who is unfamiliar with much of the U.S., let alone individual states and towns, it's really useful information to have and if somewhere is a little rough around the edges, important to bear in mind when we're trying to think as hard as possible about what may have happened to Daryn.

Just jumping off your post to comment about reading posts in general: As a rule, it's best to go into an ongoing situation without a previously set attitude and read the actual content of a post, isn't it? It surely helps. It also helps when readers take the whole context of a conversation into play.

For example: I could say, "I hate it when I open the fridge and there are only two pickles left in the jar." Someone coming into the room with the attitude that "All Arkies hate pickles" might subconsciously read that as, "I hate pickles." Total content and context sure help! :cow:

The end. Back to trying to find Daryn. And :cat:

 

[graceholl]

The end. Back to trying to find Daryn. And :cat:

*respectfully snipped*

That cat is really starting to become the key to this whole thing in my mind. I'm really of the belief now this was very much planned by Daryn.

Along what lines are you thinking, mytee? I know you said yesterday you thought it had something to do with a possible acquaintance.

Anyone else want to share their current thoughts/theories whilst we have a lull in information trickling through?

ETA, Mytee: great sig

 

[STEADFAST]

I believe that early on there was a comment in fb about the cat carrier being missing at Daryn's apt. Then another post saying he didn't have a cat carrier. Then the original poster saying oh yeah, he/she didn't really know he had a cat carrier, just assumed it.

Um . . . so was there a cat carrier that is missing? If so, why wouldn't everyone want everyone else to know about that.

Caution: I am going by memory.

 

[Portabella]

I believe that early on there was a comment in fb about the cat carrier being missing at Daryn's apt. Then another post saying he didn't have a cat carrier. Then the original poster saying oh yeah, he/she didn't really know he had a cat carrier, just assumed it.

Um . . . so was there a cat carrier that is missing? If so, why wouldn't everyone want everyone else to know about that.

Caution: I am going by memory.

The cat carrier was mentioned, but not by a reliable source I do believe, hence to be taken with a shaker of salt. I was just thinking about it...

I was going to say he may have rehomed Gypsy....but no, it was confirmed from family that the food dish had a few crumbs in it, and the litter box was clean, so those items would not still be in his apt. if Gypsy had been rehomed....IMHO

 

[STEADFAST]

The cat carrier was mentioned, but not by a reliable source I do believe, hence to be taken with a shaker of salt. I was just thinking about it...

I was going to say he may have rehomed Gypsy....but no, it was confirmed from family that the food dish had a few crumbs in it, and the litter box was clean, so those items would not still be in his apt. if Gypsy had been rehomed....IMHO

But what I mean is suppose Daryn went missing on purpose and took his cat in a carrier for the long trip? Maybe some of his friends would know what would be going on but others might not. If a friend of mine ran off with a cat and I didn't want the voluntary nature to be obvious, I wouldn't want folks to know about a missing cat carrier.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

*respectfully snipped*

That cat is really starting to become the key to this whole thing in my mind. I'm really of the belief now this was very much planned by Daryn.

Along what lines are you thinking, mytee? I know you said yesterday you thought it had something to do with a possible acquaintance.

Anyone else want to share their current thoughts/theories whilst we have a lull in information trickling through?

ETA, Mytee: great sig

My weary little mouse brain is not following you, graceholl, as in, "I know you said yesterday you thought it had something to do with a possible acquaintance" is not computing. Sowwy. Please explain it to me?

And yeah I really do think that knowing what happened to Gypsy will give us insight into whether Daryn's disappearance was a planned exit or very much unplanned event: A) Daryn leaves cat with friends or boarder, say, and tells them he'll pick up Gypsy after work on Monday, 5/27. OR B) Daryn takes cat to shelter so they can find her another home. A implies foul play; B implies deliberate intent to disappear.

As to sig: Thanks!

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I am wondering if this could be the vet that Daryn used for Gypsy as it isn't far from where he lives.

http://oklahomacity.citysearch.com/profile/8309800/oklahoma_city_ok/oakwood_veterinary_clinic.html

"Oakwood Veterinary Clinic
(405) 672-5574
4406 SE 44th St, Oklahoma City, OK "

Thanks, TL! A couple of us are working the "cat angle," so any info conjured up in that vein is certainly appreciated!

 

[Treelights]

My weary little mouse brain is not following you, graceholl, as in, "I know you said yesterday you thought it had something to do with a possible acquaintance" is not computing. Sowwy. Please explain it to me?

And yeah I really do think that knowing what happened to Gypsy will give us insight into whether Daryn's disappearance was a planned exit or very much unplanned event: A) Daryn leaves cat with friends or boarder, say, and tells them he'll pick up Gypsy after work on Monday, 5/27. OR B) Daryn takes cat to shelter so they can find her another home. A implies foul play; B implies deliberate intent to disappear.

As to sig: Thanks!

Being the dog lover that I am, I would pick up my dog Immediately upon my return. Is it possible, that even though Daryn was tired, that he wanted to pick up Gypsy that evening, instead of the next day because he missed her so much?
Since nobody knows who took care of the cat, is it possible that something happened to the cat in the other person's care? Perhaps an argument ensued after that?
Nobody is fessing up to having the cat......and if Daryn picked up the cat, nobody is fessing up that they took care of the cat........In My Opinion.......

 

[STEADFAST]

I've had a fairly gruesome thought. Was just thinking about how his suit was found hanging in his car, even though his stepmom didn't remember him having it in NY and his brother didn't remember it in the car in OKC, and it was something he'd only possibly worn once. So my thought was, 'Why would there be a suit hanging neatly in an abandoned car whose owner can't be found? I don't think suicide is unlikely.

Local LE may be sure that he's not in the area, but they don't find everybody. Here's some info about Oregon and lost hikers:

A staggering 189 men and 51 women officially remain listed as missing since 1997 by the Oregon Office of Emergency Management after trekking into Oregon's wildest places, said Georges Kleinbaum, search and rescue coordinator for the office.

"It only takes a mile before you get totally turned around and don't know which way to go," said Kleinbaum, adding that 1,036 search and rescue missions were conducted across Oregon last year.

While more than 89 percent of those sought by searchers are recovered alive, the consequences of getting lost can be dire. Eight percent die, and 2 percent are never found, said Kleinbaum.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...t_in_oregon_hiker_who_vanis.html#incart_river

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

Is it known if his cat suit/outfit was found? If it's missing, I'm betting he's gone voluntarily.

Also, unless he was killed or hurt by surprise, those fingernails of his would definitely leave marks if defending himself.

Been following along quietly and just thought I'd throw in my thoughts.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Being the dog lover that I am, I would pick up my dog Immediately upon my return. Is it possible, that even though Daryn was tired, that he wanted to pick up Gypsy that evening, instead of the next day because he missed her so much?
Since nobody knows who took care of the cat, is it possible that something happened to the cat in the other person's care? Perhaps an argument ensued after that?
Nobody is fessing up to having the cat......and if Daryn picked up the cat, nobody is fessing up that they took care of the cat........In My Opinion.......

Earlier we were bemoaning the fact that the problem this case is having is that it doesn't have enough "stick-out power." If your IMO scenario were to prove to be true....that's a lot of "stick-out power," as in cat hooman/cat sitter brawl over hurt cat, a) cat hooman killed/cat sitter on the run or b) cat sitter killed/cat hooman on the run. Now that story would get some attention all over the universe, I'm bettin'.

Your theory might seem far out there to some...but stranger things have happened (as we all know).

 

[Treelights]

I've had a fairly gruesome thought. Was just thinking about how his suit was found hanging in his car, even though his stepmom didn't remember him having it in NY and his brother didn't remember it in the car in OKC, and it was something he'd only possibly worn once. So my thought was, 'Why would there be a suit hanging neatly in an abandoned car whose owner can't be found? I don't think suicide is unlikely.

Local LE may be sure that he's not in the area, but they don't find everybody. Here's some info about Oregon and lost hikers:

If he did go out hiking, which isn't like him, I wonder if any of his shoes or boots are missing from his apartment? It would make sense that if he knew he was going to do some hiking, or biking, or being outdoors for a length of time, that he would wear the proper shoes/boots, or wear the closest type of shoe/boots needed for walking.

 

[graceholl]

I am now on my iPhone (I have just moved into a new place with no Internet or TV yet so all my time on here is when I'm at work!)

So I hope you won't mind me not quoting!

Steadfast (I think it was you - apologies if it wasn't): you mentioned that if you wanted to leave no trace you wouldn't take the cat carrier. I think maybe if D did take the cat he would have felt no choice but to take the carrier, perhaps to preserve her safety in the car. Maybe she was a jumpy creature and could have jumped into the front seat & distracted D whilst he was driving? So, I can see why he would take the carrier. A freshly scooped litter tray and crumbs of food however, I might leave behind, as a bluff of sorts. I hope that makes sense!!

Mytee- sorry, I should have been clearer! What I meant was, I remember yesterday you said you still felt more strongly that this was not a planned disappearance and suspected some foul play at some stage. Are you still thinking along those lines?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I've had a fairly gruesome thought. Was just thinking about how his suit was found hanging in his car, even though his stepmom didn't remember him having it in NY and his brother didn't remember it in the car in OKC, and it was something he'd only possibly worn once. So my thought was, 'Why would there be a suit hanging neatly in an abandoned car whose owner can't be found? I don't think suicide is unlikely.

Local LE may be sure that he's not in the area, but they don't find everybody. Here's some info about Oregon and lost hikers:

Okay. As soon as I read the words "gruesome thought" and "suit," my hair stood on end, and I got sick to my stomach because I knew just where you were going with it....and that it is an all-too-possible scenario. Uhhhhhhh. Dangit. Now I'm wondering if the computer was left in the car because it contains last wishes, last words, last instructions.

I don't like these thoughts. They are hitting too close to the probability mark.

 

[STEADFAST]

I am now on my iPhone (I have just moved into a new place with no Internet or TV yet so all my time on here is when I'm at work!)

So I hope you won't mind me not quoting!

Steadfast (I think it was you - apologies if it wasn't): you mentioned that if you wanted to leave no trace you wouldn't take the cat carrier. I think maybe if D did take the cat he would have felt no choice but to take the carrier, perhaps to preserve her safety in the car. Maybe she was a jumpy creature and could have jumped into the front seat & distracted D whilst he was driving? So, I can see why he would take the carrier. A freshly scooped litter tray and crumbs of food however, I might leave behind, as a bluff of sorts. I hope that makes sense!!

Mytee- sorry, I should have been clearer! What I meant was, I remember yesterday you said you still felt more strongly that this was not a planned disappearance and suspected some foul play at some stage. Are you still thinking along those lines?

I didn't post that if I wanted to leave no trace I wouldn't take the cat carrier. Someone else must have. I totally agree with you. If I had a cat and a carrier, I'd take the cat in the carrier on a long trip. However, if I didn't want anyone to know I'd taken the cat on the trip, I wouldn't want them to know I'd had a cat carrier in the first place because it's being missing would show that I planned the trip myself.

Now, having said that, is it possible that people leave the carrier at the boarding place? It would make sense if they have the room to store it.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I am now on my iPhone (I have just moved into a new place with no Internet or TV yet so all my time on here is when I'm at work!)

So I hope you won't mind me not quoting!

Steadfast (I think it was you - apologies if it wasn't): you mentioned that if you wanted to leave no trace you wouldn't take the cat carrier. I think maybe if D did take the cat he would have felt no choice but to take the carrier, perhaps to preserve her safety in the car. Maybe she was a jumpy creature and could have jumped into the front seat & distracted D whilst he was driving? So, I can see why he would take the carrier. A freshly scooped litter tray and crumbs of food however, I might leave behind, as a bluff of sorts. I hope that makes sense!!

Mytee- sorry, I should have been clearer! What I meant was, I remember yesterday you said you still felt more strongly that this was not a planned disappearance and suspected some foul play at some stage. Are you still thinking along those lines?

GraceH, I'd agree about the kitty and the need for the carrier, except I once drove a Tweety Bird Yellow Penske Truck from (mumble) Mississippi to Tallahassee Florida, over to OKC, and up to (mumble) NWA, all with my cat daughter/sister/mother/mentor/hero sitting on the dash board, happy as a lark! (And if the Pom could have figured out how to sit up there without sliding off, he'd have been sitting up alongside her).

Some cats have no trouble whatsoever traveling and sitting "politely." Others are like my Miss Kitty (may she rest in peace) who would immediately climb under the driver's seat, attach herself to the underside and reach out and swipe me with her claws periodically.

In short...cat carrier or no cat carrier depends on Gypsy, IMO. So the presence or absence of a carrier isn't what interests me so much as the "conversation going on" about the carrier that seems...uh...to flip-flop?

For various and assorted reasons I have been leaning more toward voluntary. Having read Stead's post about the suit...I'm leaning toward putting my head down and bawling my eyes out.

 

[Treelights]

GraceH, I'd agree about the kitty and the need for the carrier, except I once drove a Tweety Bird Yellow Penske Truck from (mumble) Mississippi to Tallahassee Florida, over to OKC, and up to (mumble) NWA, all with my cat daughter/sister/mother/mentor/hero sitting on the dash board, happy as a lark! (And if the Pom could have figured out how to sit up there without sliding off, he'd have been sitting up alongside her).

Some cats have no trouble whatsoever traveling and sitting "politely." Others are like my Miss Kitty (may she rest in peace) who would immediately climb under the driver's seat, attach herself to the underside and reach out and swipe me with her claws periodically.

In short...cat carrier or no cat carrier depends on Gypsy, IMO. So the presence or absence of a carrier isn't what interests me so much as the "conversation going on" about the carrier that seems...uh...to flip-flop?

For various and assorted reasons I have been leaning more toward voluntary. Having read Stead's post about the suit...I'm leaning toward putting my head down and bawling my eyes out.

But why drive all the way to Oregon?
Do you think then, it is possible, then that the reason the car is out of gas and pulled in backwards at the trailhead, is for carbon monoxide to fill the car? (In the winter people have died of carbon monoxide poisoning because although they were parked, trying to keep warm, there was not enough room/space from where the snow drift was to the tail pipe so they died of carbon monoxide poisoning). Was he parked next to brush so that that is a possibility that could have happened...but it didn't happen, because he wasn't found in the car....
I personally don't feel it was suicide.
I am just throwing this scenario out there seeing as there's so many ways to look at why the car was out of gas, and if you are supposing along those lines....I just wanted to add something else to think about....

 

[Portabella]

I've had a fairly gruesome thought. Was just thinking about how his suit was found hanging in his car, even though his stepmom didn't remember him having it in NY and his brother didn't remember it in the car in OKC, and it was something he'd only possibly worn once. So my thought was, 'Why would there be a suit hanging neatly in an abandoned car whose owner can't be found? I don't think suicide is unlikely.

Local LE may be sure that he's not in the area, but they don't find everybody. Here's some info about Oregon and lost hikers:

I guess I kind of had tunnel vision just a tad, just never even thought of that angle. May I ask, what part would the suit being in his back seat play into this? That is where you lost me...(I can be really slow...lol)...ty

 

[StormyNights]

I am just kind of jumping here. I was reading back in the beginning of the thread and I believe it said that his vehicle was found at Fort Hood? Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that where Whitney Heichel's body was found? That just kind of stuck out to me and I may be wrong about Daryn's car being found there. Is this ringing bells with anyone else? Like I said I am just kind of reading at the beginning of this. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong! Just my 2 coppers

 

[graceholl]

Sorry Steadfast and apologies to whoever did post that!

Just whilst we're on the more gruesome of thoughts, it did cross my mind tonight as I was walking home that it may have been a suicide. What with where the car was found, and the kitty gone.

I am still holding out hope though and still leaning more towards a planned disappearance. I dont want to dwell on any of my more negative instincts. In my gut, I think he'll be home soon.