OK - Donald 'Joe' Neff, 61, Poteau, 14 May 2009 - #1

[Blondie in Spokane]

Belinda.....thank you so very much for the help....I am computer illiterate so the email synopsis would be appreciated more than you will ever know! I agree with you....persistence and patience are the key.....if we all work together we CAN get justice for Joe and MMD!! (I'm so glad to see the movement on this thread!)

 

[missingmydad]

thanks i am soooo excited. i will e-mail them all again too, thanks everybody, i will be back on in a bit!!!!

 

[missingmydad]

Well dads case made the the paper, The Daily Oklahoman,there was a press conference regarding the success rate of the OSBI solving homicides that is over 80%. I was asked my opinion of the percentage and I had to say what I really thought.
I cut and pasted a portion. Hope I didn't step on toes, but we are going on almost a year here....(they did get the date wrong on Jody Rilee Wilson case, and dads date was 14th not 13th)

The slaying deaths of Poteau bar owner Joe Neff on May 13, 2009, Buffalo Valley’s Frieda Dighton on June 5, 2008, and Wister’s Jody Rile Wilson in December 2007 are among other recent cases growing cold.

"I’d want to see a list of OSBI’s homicide cases,” said Marie Pitchford, Neff’s daughter. "I’d have to see the list to believe it. Show me in black and white — same thing I’d ask from an accountant.

"In my father’s case, they still haven’t interviewed our family. We were told if we had any important information, we would bring it to them. They just didn’t have time to deal with us. But what if I have some little piece of information that’s important and I don’t know?”



Read more: http://www.newsok.com/article/3451990?searched=joe neff&custom_click=search#ixzz0kY63lZYu
aily Oklahoman,

 

[sarx]

So sorry for you MMD. Another showcase of statistics lying. How many of that homicide rate is drug and/or gang related, how many are domestic? It sure looks to me like they have a pretty lousy record when it comes to anything the least bit complex.

 

[Kimster]

Well dads case made the the paper, The Daily Oklahoman,there was a press conference regarding the success rate of the OSBI solving homicides that is over 80%. I was asked my opinion of the percentage and I had to say what I really thought.
I cut and pasted a portion. Hope I didn't step on toes, but we are going on almost a year here....(they did get the date wrong on Jody Rilee Wilson case, and dads date was 14th not 13th)

The slaying deaths of Poteau bar owner Joe Neff on May 13, 2009, Buffalo Valley’s Frieda Dighton on June 5, 2008, and Wister’s Jody Rile Wilson in December 2007 are among other recent cases growing cold.

"I’d want to see a list of OSBI’s homicide cases,” said Marie Pitchford, Neff’s daughter. "I’d have to see the list to believe it. Show me in black and white — same thing I’d ask from an accountant.

"In my father’s case, they still haven’t interviewed our family. We were told if we had any important information, we would bring it to them. They just didn’t have time to deal with us. But what if I have some little piece of information that’s important and I don’t know?”



Read more: http://www.newsok.com/article/3451990?searched=joe neff&custom_click=search#ixzz0kY63lZYu
aily Oklahoman,

Good interview, MMD! Now it's my turn to send some emails!

raying:

 

[Ruflossn]

Well dads case made the the paper, The Daily Oklahoman,there was a press conference regarding the success rate of the OSBI solving homicides that is over 80%. I was asked my opinion of the percentage and I had to say what I really thought.
I cut and pasted a portion. Hope I didn't step on toes, but we are going on almost a year here....(they did get the date wrong on Jody Rilee Wilson case, and dads date was 14th not 13th)

The slaying deaths of Poteau bar owner Joe Neff on May 13, 2009, Buffalo Valley’s Frieda Dighton on June 5, 2008, and Wister’s Jody Rile Wilson in December 2007 are among other recent cases growing cold.

"I’d want to see a list of OSBI’s homicide cases,” said Marie Pitchford, Neff’s daughter. "I’d have to see the list to believe it. Show me in black and white — same thing I’d ask from an accountant.

"In my father’s case, they still haven’t interviewed our family. We were told if we had any important information, we would bring it to them. They just didn’t have time to deal with us. But what if I have some little piece of information that’s important and I don’t know?”



Read more: http://www.newsok.com/article/3451990?searched=joe neff&custom_click=search#ixzz0kY63lZYu
aily Oklahoman,

MMD~
You did an excellent job representing your dad's case.

 

[Ruflossn]

So sorry for you MMD. Another showcase of statistics lying. How many of that homicide rate is drug and/or gang related, how many are domestic? It sure looks to me like they have a pretty lousy record when it comes to anything the least bit complex.

I could not agree more.

 

[missingmydad]

thanks guys! I will not know if I ticked anyone off with the news article until I call again to get updates...haha...yeah right. what updates? anyway I am just hoping for the best and pray God leads this investigation the right way. I thank you all for sending the emails to all the networks, I cannot wait to start getting replies.

 

[Belinda]

I am so sorry I got pulled off-track yesterday. Will definitely work on the email this morning and post it. Sorry for the delay everyone.

Addition - Today is not looking any better. There is some major stuff going down in my household. If someone else can do the synopsis, I would be happy to send out emails. I'm really sorry.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

MMD....I almost lost my breakfast when I read your quote that LE had not (as in NEVER) interviewed you or family members???? WTF is up with that crap??? That's the first thing they're supposed to do (I read a lot of true crime and I have learned that much!). Oh, Lord....it looks like Websleuths members will have to solve this case for Oklahoma LE!! I also have to almost laugh, if it weren't so sad, but who in the HELL are they trying to kid when they say they solve 80% of their cases?? GMAFB!!!! I could list 10 right off that are unsolved from that state....I'm sorry, but Oklahoma LE really did themselves a disservice with that article. (For me it all started off with those poor Waleetka girls getting shot....and it's been downhill from there IMO.)

You sounded great, by the way, as always. You didn't sound confrontational, just inquisitive. And incredibly tactful!!

Grrrrrrrr......my blood is boiling now!!!! The nerve of them!!!

 

[wfgodot]

When Pastor Carol Daniels's mother spoke to the press about not having heard from OSBI about the case for months, spokesperson Jessica Brown callously said, "She has our number," so OSBI thinks itself to be above it all when it comes to maintaining contact with the families, and believes it has no responsibility whatsoever to keep informed the people to whom progress in a case most matters - unless, of course, the case involves a family "eligible" for attention because of the power and favor they have managed to accrue in Oklahoma's class system, where lords of the manor are few and exalted but we serfs are downtrodden and many.

As for that solve-rate: HA!

 

[Sailor Bug]

I have been reading about this case for 2 days.
We need the autopsy report.
It should be available through the Freedom of Info. Act.
I believe there are 2 perps attached to this murder.
At least one was recognizable to Joe.
At least one was familiar to the area.
DNA may be available from the bar but, was probably destroyed by the water.

My bold above,

After each of my brother and sisters deaths I had to write letters to the:
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (Attorney General)

Now in each of my cases the autopsy reports state that that body specimens WILL BE DESTROYED within a certain period of time. Both my darling brothers & my favorite sister's autopsy report states it will be destroyed within 6 months.

I recieved my brothers report 1 1/2 months after his death as I flew to the location to pick it up. My sisters case however was not sent to me until 7 months after her death as One medical examiner was on charges for "changing the outcome of autopsy results" which placed innocent people in jail...so the delay I was told had to do with the medical offices changes in more people being involved with EVERY autopsy that went through.

I have learned that you indeed MUST write that office( mentioned above) for any results of the autopsy.

I have also learned that if you want postmortem specimens saved that it must be requested in writing.

 

[Ruflossn]

My bold above,

After each of my brother and sisters deaths I had to write letters to the:
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (Attorney General)

Now in each of my cases the autopsy reports state that that body specimens WILL BE DESTROYED within a certain period of time. Both my darling brothers & my favorite sister's autopsy report states it will be destroyed within 6 months.

I recieved my brothers report 1 1/2 months after his death as I flew to the location to pick it up. My sisters case however was not sent to me until 7 months after her death as One medical examiner was on charges for "changing the outcome of autopsy results" which placed innocent people in jail...so the delay I was told had to do with the medical offices changes in more people being involved with EVERY autopsy that went through.

I have learned that you indeed MUST write that office( mentioned above) for any results of the autopsy.

I have also learned that if you want postmortem specimens saved that it must be requested in writing.

Sailor Bug ~
This is great info. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

MMD~
Do you feel comfortable requesting an autopsy report?
In the case of the Weleetka girls, the report was requested and released by the media. If you are not comfortable requesting it, maybe one of the reporters you have made contact with would do it for you? An autopsy can reveal a lot about the type of offender who might have murdered your father.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

~bump~

 

[Belinda]

Bumping for Mr. Neff and MMD.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

~bump~

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Sunday morning bump for Joe & MMD

 

[Ruflossn]

On the OSBI website, there is a link where you can print off and send in (Snail mail) an evaluation of the OSBI. Below is the link ~


http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Citizens'_Survey/Survey.html


Thank you for taking time to fill out the OSBI Citizens' Survey. The OSBI will use the information from this survey to evaluate the services we offer. We are committed to providing the best possible services to the community, and your input is one of the greatest tools we have that allows us to do that.

Below you will find instructions for filling out and submitting the survey.



Instructions:

1. Click the link below to open the survey.

2. Fill out the form completely.

3. Either save the survey to your computer and click here to e-mail the form, or print the form and mail it to:

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation

Attn: Beth Miles, CALEA Manager

6600 N. Harvey

Oklahoma City, OK 73116

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Thanks for the survey, Ruflossn! I am shocked that OSBI actually would solicit public opinion! Anyway, I completed mine.....bet you can guess what my personal opinion was of their system!

 

[Carolina Girl]

Bump for MMD and Joe