OK OK - Elijah Gersham Cravens, 30-40, Okmulgee, 1 Jan 1902

[Lwieckowicz]

This is the official reply I received today

 

[Richard]

Did his horse turn up somewhere? Or was a description of it included in any articles about his disappearance?

 

[The4TierBridge]

Did his horse turn up somewhere? Or was a description of it included in any articles about his disappearance?

I don't think there would be any "original" news articles. His reporting date in NamUs under contacts is January 5, 2011.

 

[AirForceVet24]

In my opinion, a lot of his case involves hearsay that was handed down from generation to generation.

 

[Lwieckowicz]

In my opinion, a lot of his case involves hearsay that was handed down from generation to generation.

I believe they came from original police reports. The chances of solving his case present day are slim, but I still submitted that tip because stranger things have happened. Still wondering who the other remains recently found belonged to.

 

[strangerthanfiction1200]

Being from Oklahoma originally, this case did catch my attention a bit more for the curiosity factor than anything.

I guess I am confused by some things. His ancestry.com page states that he died in Payne, Oklahoma. Payne, Oklahoma does not exist...Payne County, Oklahoma does exist. Theirs several different small towns in Payne County. However, the family legend states that he went missing from Okmulgee, Oklahoma enroute to the Woodman of the World meeting. Payne County and Oklmulgee are in different parts of the state. Payne County is located in west central Oklahoma whereas Oklmulgee is about 30 minutes south of Tulsa.

The suspected burial was in Stanton, Texas. I did check the 3 cemetaries in Stanton and while I do see the last name Cravens in one of them, the people died in 1970s and are likely no relation to Ellijah.


If he went missing from Oklmulgee, then why does his ancestry.com state that he died in a different part of the state?

I have a question for you. How can I find out information about Gerald Diamond who was born in 1860 in Missouri? I cannot find parents for him or in the 1870 or 1880 census. He married in 1899 in Arkansas and appears in the 1910 census in Muskogee, Payne County Oklahoma as a single person. For other sleuths who follow the Ann Caldwell case. Gerald Diamond was the father of Ann Caldwell's father who was born in 1901 or 1902 in Arkansas. His birth certificate on Family Search lists his name as Gerald (Jack Diamond) or Gerald Caldwell. By 1907 his parents are no longer together and he has half-siblings. Some trees on Ancestry has this same information. I put the question here because both of these gentlemen are in the same area. Although I cannot find when Mr. Diamond arrived in Oklahoma. Also, another coincidence. In the 1910 census there is a servant in the household of Dorothy Arnold who vanished in December 1910. The servant's last name is Caldwell, (Jeannie/Jane) who is widowed, from Ireland and is 52 years old. (DOB 1858). Maybe some new leads?

 

[Lwieckowicz]

I have a question for you. How can I find out information about Gerald Diamond who was born in 1860 in Missouri? I cannot find parents for him or in the 1870 or 1880 census. He married in 1899 in Arkansas and appears in the 1910 census in Muskogee, Payne County Oklahoma as a single person. For other sleuths who follow the Ann Caldwell case. Gerald Diamond was the father of Ann Caldwell's father who was born in 1901 or 1902 in Arkansas. His birth certificate on Family Search lists his name as Gerald (Jack Diamond) or Gerald Caldwell. By 1907 his parents are no longer together and he has half-siblings. Some trees on Ancestry has this same information. I put the question here because both of these gentlemen are in the same area. Although I cannot find when Mr. Diamond arrived in Oklahoma. Also, another coincidence. In the 1910 census there is a servant in the household of Dorothy Arnold who vanished in December 1910. The servant's last name is Caldwell, (Jeannie/Jane) who is widowed, from Ireland and is 52 years old. (DOB 1858). Maybe some new leads?

Try family search it is free and has a huge online archive of information. I have found most people I was looking for on there. If you have one or don’t mind paying ancestry .com is great too. If I have time I can dig around a bit.

 

[strangerthanfiction1200]

Try family search it is free and has a huge online archive of information. I have found most people I was looking for on there. If you have one or don’t mind paying ancestry .com is great too. If I have time I can dig around a bit.

Thank you for responding so quickly. I have been on FamilySearch and Ancestry. Even the family trees do not have his parents or where he is in the 1870 and 1880 census, unless there is a misspelling. He suddenly disappears after the 1910 census and not in the 1920, unless he died in the meantime. His middle is "J", he could be using his middle name or initial. Or a possibility, he could be using his mother's maiden name, which I do not know. Europeans in the distant past often used mother's maiden name as a middle name.