OK OK - Jamison Family: Truck, IDs and Dog Found Abandoned 08 Oct 2009 - #12

[SchoolgirlShamus]

In this photo of the truck interior...

http://okmpjamisons.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/6/0/6660196/894574_orig.jpg

...am I seeing things, or has the doll's left hand torn into the fabric on the back of the driver's seat? It looks like the hand may even still be in the hole. Possible sign of a struggle in the backseat...?

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

In this photo of the truck interior...

http://okmpjamisons.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/6/0/6660196/894574_orig.jpg

...am I seeing things, or has the doll's left hand torn into the fabric on the back of the driver's seat? It looks like the hand may even still be in the hole. Possible sign of a struggle in the backseat...?

Good catch Schoolgirl...looks like that to me.....certainly looks as though some force was involved. Good eye.

 

[wfgodot]

"not seeing this at all"

 

[OkieGranny]

In this photo of the truck interior...

http://okmpjamisons.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/6/0/6660196/894574_orig.jpg

...am I seeing things, or has the doll's left hand torn into the fabric on the back of the driver's seat? It looks like the hand may even still be in the hole. Possible sign of a struggle in the backseat...?

I don't see any torn fabric. It looks like there's a pocket across the back of the seat, maybe mesh.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Weird....sure looks torn to me....but then again I have terrible eyesight lol!

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I don't see any torn fabric. It looks like there's a pocket across the back of the seat, maybe mesh.

The ,ight be a hole in the fabric, but it doesn't look torn to me. There is a something that looks like it is frayed a bit.

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

I don't see any torn fabric. It looks like there's a pocket across the back of the seat, maybe mesh.

Every time I look at it, I see one of three things, and that's one of them.

It's weird how it keeps striking me differently, like an optical illusion image that changes back and forth.

 

[Soulmagent]

Looks torn to me as well. I can make out the far right hand side where there is what appears to be a slit

 

[OkieGranny]

So I finally made it all the way through nearly 5,000 posts on the epic Jamison thread on Topix, and now have a whole new appreciation for the TOS on WS and the troll-free environment we're able to enjoy here. I cherry-picked some highlights for you, but this is all word of mouth so take it FWIW.

I saw a different date for the house fire, threw my hands up in the air, and said a lot of bad words. The BFF said it happened in 2007 on Topix vs. the December 2008 date I was given earlier that was also per the BFF. See Post #4499 here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p221

And this is why I want to see records and not just go by what someone said. Will be diving back into Google hell today to see if I can turn up any building permits for the reconstruction.

I've always thought the bag of money was found under the driver's seat, but can't remember if that was ever officially stated or if it was just an assumption. According to Post #4715, it was hidden behind a bunch of tools under the back seat on the driver's side:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p231

Bobby and Sherilyn's ex-husband went to high school together and apparently got along just fine, according to Post #1957. It also sounds like Bobby and Sherilyn's son had a very good relationship. And the last few sentences of Post #1955 offer some interesting insight into the relationship between Bobby and Sherilyn:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p96

Some info on the relationship between Sherilyn and her ex-husband in Post #522:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p25

And Post #659 here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p32

On the relationship between Sherilyn and her mother, Connie, in Post #1927:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p95

And more on that subject in Post #837:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p41

Some info on how Bobby and Sherilyn were able to afford such a nice lakeside home in Post #920 which, incidentally, is from August 2010 and says the house fire was "about 2 yrs ago (I think)":

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p45

Found a couple of posts refuting the "demons on the roof" story, in Post #804 here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p39

And Post #1188 here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p58

An explanation of Bobby Sr's "Mexican Mafia" ties in Post #591:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p28

And here's that possible land sale again in a comment on this post on FTJ. Says Bobby Sr sold a piece of land that Bobby Jr's name was on and his share was $64,000:

https://www.facebook.com/FINDTHEJAMISONS/posts/419622938053781

Finally found out what kind of cancer Bobby had, from Charley Project:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jamison_bobby.html

This type of cancer usually occurs between the ages of 20 and 39, and it's not been mentioned very often in the Jamison saga, so I tend to think it happened to Bobby many years ago, probably before he even met Sherilyn. Just another trauma this poor fella had to endure in his lifetime.

I've added some things to the timeline and found sources for others, so it's a little longer and a little more complete. Hoping to be able to post a final version in the next couple of days.

 

[OkieGranny]

Oh, for Pete's sake, you guys. I really think what you're seeing is the doll's hand jammed down into a mesh pocket across the back of the seat. This photo is from a different make and model of vehicle, but it's the best pic I could find to illustrate the kind of pocket I think it is:

 

[Dallen]

In this photo of the truck interior...

http://okmpjamisons.weebly.com/uploads/6/6/6/0/6660196/894574_orig.jpg

...am I seeing things, or has the doll's left hand torn into the fabric on the back of the driver's seat? It looks like the hand may even still be in the hole. Possible sign of a struggle in the backseat...?

Looks like netting to me. Most GMC and Chevy trucks have those on the backs of both seats.

ETA: posted before I read OkieGranny's post.

 

[Dallen]

I've always thought the bag of money was found under the driver's seat, but can't remember if that was ever officially stated or if it was just an assumption. According to Post #4715, it was hidden behind a bunch of tools under the back seat on the driver's side:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oklahoma-city-ok/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K/p231

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Wait!? NS claims the neighbor said marijuana and meth were found when LE originally searched the truck? And we have LE saying there were no signs of drug use. Hmmmm. If the neighbor's claim is true, then we have a totally different ball game, IMO.

 

[OkieGranny]

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Wait!? NS claims the neighbor said marijuana and meth were found when LE originally searched the truck? And we have LE saying there were no signs of drug use. Hmmmm. If the neighbor's claim is true, then we have a totally different ball game, IMO.

Would LE have any motivation to hide this info, if it were true?

 

[wander24]

Disappeared rerun of Jamison family on ID right now

 

[Dallen]

Thanks for sharing all the info, OkieGranny. Just caught up and really starting to think its possible the demons thing was made out to be more than it actually was. Of course, if the hearsay is correct, it sounds like Bobby could've just been saying something as simple as "hey, there's weird noises at our house and our cats are coming up dead. Can you give us any insight on possible demons that might be surrounding us. How do we deal with this?" So maybe it wasn't this elaborate taunting-demons-dancing-on-our-rooftop problem that it has become. Who knows.

 

[Dallen]

Would LE have any motivation to hide this info, if it were true?

The Molly Miller case, along with this one, is making me believe anything is possible with OK LE, or any LE for that matter.

 

[OkieGranny]

Re: Madyson's appearance in the final photo on the mountain, there's an interesting pic of baby Madyson on FTJ:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=174288282587249&set=pb.124182170931194.-2207520000.1386177882.&type=3&theater

The only thing I want to add here is that my son has a very fair complexion and his cheeks turn bright pink, almost red, when the weather is chilly.

 

[OkieGranny]

The Molly Miller case, along with this one, is making me believe anything is possible with OK LE, or any LE for that matter.

No kidding! I've been chided before for making disrespectful comments about local LE, but it's hard to understand how things can be in some Oklahoma counties if you're from a place where LE usually does its job properly. That is not always the case here.

 

[TooCurious]

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Wait!? NS claims the neighbor said marijuana and meth were found when LE originally searched the truck? And we have LE saying there were no signs of drug use. Hmmmm. If the neighbor's claim is true, then we have a totally different ball game, IMO.

I read that a couple of days ago too... I think drugs are a part of this case anyway you turn. Whether it is Sherilynn not taking her prescriptions, Bobby being hooked on his, meth usage between the two, meth dealing between the two, or stumbling on an "operation" while out walking. Who knows which one it is at this point but drugs are in some way linked to this case. They may have actually been looking for a place to set up an operation and used moving as a cover.
Law enforcement may have catalogued it wrong, kept it for personal usage, or possibly covered it up for someone, or it could have been tested and found to be something else.

 

[TooCurious]

Re: Madyson's appearance in the final photo on the mountain, there's an interesting pic of baby Madyson on FTJ:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=174288282587249&set=pb.124182170931194.-2207520000.1386177882.&type=3&theater

The only thing I want to add here is that my son has a very fair complexion and his cheeks turn bright pink, almost red, when the weather is chilly.

Great catch!
Try this, cross your arms like you are pouting.... no relax them. Now cross your arms like you are cold...... did your hand placement change? It could just be mannerisms though.