OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs and Dog Found Abandoned, 8 Oct 2009 - #10

[JackAMW]

Got to remember, O., that this IS Oklahoma we're talking about.

Ha! Yes

 

[Salem]

Jack - do you have a link for the teacher's body that was found in the mountains? And can you explain a bit more about how close this incident is to where the Jamisons went missing?

Thanks,

Salem

 

[Salem]

I found the link: http://www.poteaudailynews.com/content/breaking-news-death-runestone-state-park

But how do we know it is a school teacher? And again, where is this, in relation to where the Jamison truck was found?

Interested,

Salem

 

[wfgodot]

I found the link: http://www.poteaudailynews.com/content/breaking-news-death-runestone-state-park

But how do we know it is a school teacher? And again, where is this, in relation to where the Jamison truck was found?

Interested,

Salem

Yes, that's the only one I've seen so far. Leflore County news may travel fast inside Leflore County, but, as for outside Leflore County, it can be a very different thing.

 

[Oriah]

Yes, that's the only one I've seen so far. Leflore County news may travel fast inside Leflore County, but, as for outside Leflore County, it can be a very different thing.

Still not sure what this has to do with the Jamison's case... is it just LeFlore Co? The park itself? Outside of LeFlore, SO's are several jurisdictions.

 

[wfgodot]

Still not sure what this has to do with the Jamison's case... is it just LeFlore Co? The park itself? Outside of LeFlore, SO's are several jurisdictions.

No idea. I'm not even sure there's an entity called Runestone State Park anymore. I thought the legislature unfunded it last year or something. (Should re-open as Fake Runestone State Park, if so, the runestones in question being quite probably less than authentic.)

 

[Pensfan]

Bobbie Jameson had the symptoms of a being a psychotic schizophrenic (demons/bizarre religious overtones/paranoia/other bizarre behavior). (Yes, he could have developed schizophrenia at a older age.) It is possible that he killed/disposed of his wife and child and then wandered psychotically away on his own. Homeless shelters/soup kitchens/Suboxone/Methadone clinics (50% of the mentally ill have a drug abuse problem) in the closest large cities should have been mailed fliers with his photo (a scraggly beard sketched onto his photo would have helped). He might still be alive, but unrecognized because of untreated or inadequately treated mental illness and/or addiction.

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

 

[little726]

I did find this article lastnight, but didn't post it because it wasn't dated. I didn't want to take the chance of it being about Jody Rilee:

http://www.5newsonline.com/news/kfsm-news-ok-body-found,0,7388358.story

 

[JackAMW]

Jack - do you have a link for the teacher's body that was found in the mountains? And can you explain a bit more about how close this incident is to where the Jamisons went missing?

Thanks,

Salem

The link has been Posted. Runestone Park on Poteau Mountain is about 30 miles from where Jamisons vanished and can be seen as a landmark

 

[JackAMW]

I found the link: http://www.poteaudailynews.com/content/breaking-news-death-runestone-state-park

But how do we know it is a school teacher? And again, where is this, in relation to where the Jamison truck was found?

Interested,

Salem

Good, you found it. The Teacher killed herself because she had cancer. 30 miles away

 

[JackAMW]

Yes, that's the only one I've seen so far. Leflore County news may travel fast inside Leflore County, but, as for outside Leflore County, it can be a very different thing.

I live 400 miles from Leflore County but have many contacts there

 

[wfgodot]

I live 400 miles from Leflore County but have many contacts here

Best way to get Leflore County news, I suspect.

 

[JackAMW]

Still not sure what this has to do with the Jamison's case... is it just LeFlore Co? The park itself? Outside of LeFlore, SO's are several jurisdictions.

The dirt roads on those mountains intersect, one does not even have to come down if they had someone to get supplies from town. There are only six ways to get on that mountain range and all exits/entrances are not close to towns. One of the routes on the mountain is thru the Runestone Park where two dead females have been found in three years. With a population of 3000 at Heavener, two dead bodies raises red flags, with over 12 dead bodies over three years and a missing family within the scope of 30 miles, then I would say that everything should be looked at and the blinders put away. To find the truth you have to step back and get the whole picture of the scene not just the details of the perceived focus.
Where the now known to be suicide was located is just a few feet from the dirt road that leads to the mountain

 

[believe09]

Jack, are you saying that you heard from contacts that this was a female school teacher who committed suicide because of cancer? Or is there MSM somewhere?

TIA.

 

[wfgodot]

"Heavener" is a name that sounds like a combo of "heaven" and "never." Just saying.

 

[JackAMW]

Best way to get Leflore County news, I suspect.

My people settled the area in the early 1800s and still live there, I was born and raised there and know the area like the back of my hand as I spent my life hunting and tracking all over that land.
I know the people and the land and it is NOT like any place else. It is known as Little Dixie, county lines mean nothing. There are only three locations in Little Dixie that the Jamisons could hide in sight or be with others of their kind. I have told about one location, now if they were dead, it still could be a viable location

 

[Soulmagent]

Bobbie Jameson had the symptoms of a being a psychotic schizophrenic (demons/bizarre religious overtones/paranoia/other bizarre behavior). (Yes, he could have developed schizophrenia at a older age.) It is possible that he killed/disposed of his wife and child and then wandered psychotically away on his own. Homeless shelters/soup kitchens/Suboxone/Methadone clinics (50% of the mentally ill have a drug abuse problem) in the closest large cities should have been mailed fliers with his photo (a scraggly beard sketched onto his photo would have helped). He might still be alive, but unrecognized because of untreated or inadequately treated mental illness and/or addiction.

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

?????

The demons ... other then that I havent seen any evidence of schizophrenia ,or paranoira.

It isnt paranoira if someone really out to get you.. and it does appear someone got them. past drug issues ,no mention of anyone having evidence of current drug issues I have seen. Starr installed the camera (so that is her paranoira not theirs)

I might be overlooking some issues or signs of the condition you describe because it is not my feild so could you explain, being specific about Bobby's symptoms and how they displayed themself in what we do know their actions were that day? It might help us consider expanded possibilites.

 

[JackAMW]

No idea. I'm not even sure there's an entity called Runestone State Park anymore. I thought the legislature unfunded it last year or something. (Should re-open as Fake Runestone State Park, if so, the runestones in question being quite probably less than authentic.)

The state closed it and all state parks to save money, The park was to revert back to the family of the land donors but the city of Heavener aquired it to run which in my opion will fail because they dont have money to clean the streets or any upkeep to the city.

The Heavener Runestone has been called a hoax for years but testing indicates the carvings were made in 750ad and is a combination of Old Goth and New Goth/Norwiegan runic script. This discovery has only been made in the past three years. The old transliteration by Dr Nielson has been used for years and academics that studied his stuff have deemed the rock a crock, but that is another story

 

[JackAMW]

"Heavener" is a name that sounds like a combo of "heaven" and "never." Just saying.

You would never know how true that is

 

[JackAMW]

Now lets go back to Middle Mountain where I was confronted by the man on the atv, if you will look at the link and move the map north to Middle Mountain, zoom into the white object, it is the house compound that I found, if you move behind the home thru woods with no trail seen is a rectangle object several feet long. That looks like conex boxes of metal storage containers.
The Jamison man said that they were going to buy some metal storage containers to live in, move them to Panola Mountain and live in them. Well what about Poteau Mountain? Poteau-Panola?
So suspious people hiding, big homes in the middle of no where, rectangle metal buildings that the Jamisons wanted to move into and a man on an atv chasing me down, all within 30 miles and within visual site, mountain names similar, dead bodies all over the area.....combine all that with some guy on another site that is over-adamant about spouting off that the Jamisons are alive, hanging with druggies or cult types that helped them "escape" and living in Mexico without passports and with a little girl that had her hair dyed blond.....also raises red flags. Does this guy have something to do with the "escape" ?
Step back and see the whole picture
Yes, it is possible they are alive but it is also very possible that they are dead or at least one of them is. Now if we could just get up there and see what was in those storage containers