OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs and Dog Found Abandoned, 8 Oct 2009 - #10

[belimom]

In my limited knowledge of this case... The theory you present above sounds like a plausible one...

However... One of the many facts surrounding this case that puzzle me... Is that $30,000.00 was found in the car... The money had not been stolen...

:waitasec:

There was some speculation early on about who had the most to gain. A lot of extended family squabbling going on at that time. I know the families of the victims are also victims, but I don't believe a connection can be ruled out when you think of who could've had a motive, especially with the cash being left there. I think a random stranger would've searched for cash and other valuables in the vehicle. I think someone who knew them and wanted them 'gone' probably didn't think to check their vehicle for cash or anything else.

JMO

 

[SuziQ]

In my limited knowledge of this case... The theory you present above sounds like a plausible one...

However... One of the many facts surrounding this case that puzzle me... Is that $30,000.00 was found in the car... The money had not been stolen...

:waitasec:

Yes, the money found has always stumped me as well. Some people though won't give up the location of their money or pin numbers, etc.

 

[Snoopster]

Officials say they did not find any clothing or other artifacts to confirm the identify of the remains

http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/state/...ing-jamison-family-from-eufaula#ixzz2kxgcxbxU

from this article:

More than 300 volunteers scoured the Sans Bois area in 2009 after 44-year-old Bobby Dale Jamison, his 40-year-old wife Sherilyn and their 6-year-old daughter Madyson went missing.

Their truck was later found, but authorities did not suspect foul play because there was no signs of a struggle.

If I recall correctly, their truck was found first...which caused people to search for them. Am I remembering this incorrectly or is this sloppy reporting?

 

[meanmaryjean]

Wow- I am dumbfounded. I have puzzled over this case for a long, long time.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

I would not rule out murder suicide at this point.

 

[2Hope4]

I just asked on another thread about them yesterday! I pray this is the family and if someone did something to them, that enough evidence is there to prosecute! IMO, if the truck had been moved by a stranger/murderer/whoever besides the Jamisons, then they would have let the dog out. IIRC, the truck was locked, the dog almost dead, and the money and their coats were left inside. Maybe as they were walking the land to check it out, they walked farther than they realized, and couldn't get back to the truck, or got lost and didn't know which way to go!

 

[belimom]

I would not rule out murder suicide at this point.

The problem is that it really doesn't fit what was going on with this family at that time, from what I remember early on. Also, the bodies were found 2.5 miles 'as the crow flies' (according to mtrooper) - but on the other side of the mountain. I'm not sure they all would've - or could've - gone that far for a murder-suicide.

Here's the post from mtrooper:

There is not a passable road (by vehicle) that would connect where the truck was found to where the bodies were located. It is at least 20 miles by vehicle. 2.5ish miles as the crow flies. I am looking for a better map to explain. The Jamisons went missing on one side of the mountain and were found at the bottom of the other side. The GPS coords are correct. Give me a few. As far as the word "grave", my best thought would be think four years of leaves and debris. Its not like hunters stumbled upon a depression in the terrain and decided to dig.

 

[Darcyline]

WOW! I literally gasped when I saw the news. The Jamisons were the case that eventually brought me to Websleuths. I saw a news story and was intrigued and it eventually led to my interest in missing person cases and here to find out more information. I never thought they would be found.
I will trust MTrooper that they did not just randomly hike over there. So, who picked them up and why?

 

[Elainera]

In my limited knowledge of this case... The theory you present above sounds like a plausible one...

However... One of the many facts surrounding this case that puzzle me... Is that $30,000.00 was found in the car... The money had not been stolen...

:waitasec:

Because it was hidden under the seat iirc.

The briefcase however seems to have vanished.

 

[kalekona]

This case always bothered me more than the McStay's maybe it was that last photo or the dog left in the truck- while murder suicide seems possible why bring the dog at all? If you were just going hiking or for a walk in the woods, why leave the dog in the truck- and why bring all that money?
So while it is really possible it could be one of the above it just feels like something more sinister happened.

 

[nevereverever]

If I recall correctly, their truck was found first...which caused people to search for them. Am I remembering this incorrectly or is this sloppy reporting?

I think you're confusing the scene of the disappearance with the scene of the remains. The truck and personal items were found shortly after they disappeared. No personal items were found along with the remains that have just been found, though. And the remains were 2.5 to 3 miles from the truck, so it's not definitive that they're related.

 

[belimom]

I think you're confusing the scene of the disappearance with the scene of the remains. The truck and personal items were found shortly after they disappeared. No personal items were found along with the remains that have just been found, though. And the remains were 2.5 to 3 miles from the truck, so it's not definitive that they're related.

I think what Snoopster is saying is that back in 2009, their truck was found (with their dog barely alive), prompting officials to trace down who it belonged to. Hence the search at that point for them, which yielded nothing.

So the truck was found, then the search....

 

[trigger]

This case always bothered me more than the McStay's maybe it was that last photo or the dog left in the truck- while murder suicide seems possible why bring the dog at all? If you were just going hiking or for a walk in the woods, why leave the dog in the truck- and why bring all that money?
So while it is really possible it could be one of the above it just feels like something more sinister happened.

I followed this case to. The money was hidden in the truck, maybe, IMO, they did not want to leave it at home. IDK. I remember seeing them packing the car on video, for that trip and they seemed weird, remember?

 

[OkieGranny]

There is not a passable road (by vehicle) that would connect where the truck was found to where the bodies were located. It is at least 20 miles by vehicle. 2.5ish miles as the crow flies. I am looking for a better map to explain. The Jamisons went missing on one side of the mountain and were found at the bottom of the other side. The GPS coords are correct. Give me a few. As far as the word "grave", my best thought would be think four years of leaves and debris. Its not like hunters stumbled upon a depression in the terrain and decided to dig.

Here's a terrain map, with the mountain you mentioned clearly visible.

 

[kalekona]

I followed this case to. The money was hidden in the truck, maybe, IMO, they did not want to leave it at home. IDK. I remember seeing them packing the car on video, for that trip and they seemed weird, remember?

Yeah weird- but if it was a murder suicide would they have even bothered with the money? Just a very sad and baffling case.

 

[nevereverever]

I think what Snoopster is saying is that back in 2009, their truck was found (with their dog barely alive), prompting officials to trace down who it belonged to. Hence the search at that point for them, which yielded nothing.

So the truck was found, then the search....

No, I know. My post is a little confusing because I didn't include the two media reports Snoopster linked in the post. One said that no personal artifacts were found to help identify the remains. My point was that no personal artifacts were found near the remains. Obviously the truck was found much earlier which prompted initial searches. But those searches did not lead to the discovery of the remains. There were no items actually found with or near the remains. The fact that it's apparently 3 sets of remains and within a few miles of the Jamison's truck is what leads authorities and others to suspect it is the Jamison's.

 

[trigger]

Yeah weird- but if it was a murder suicide would they have even bothered with the money? Just a very sad and baffling case.

True. Maybe it wasn't plan that way at first? IDK. That poor baby. Why didn't anyone do anything for the safety of the child.

 

[Equinista]

If nothing to identify them was found near them then I wonder if that means their pistol was not found their either (or maybe they are not releasing that info yet) but it seems to me if it were murder-suicide they would find the pistol with them or near by. Unless animals drug all 3 of them together from the area they died, but that doesn't seem likely.

 

[Soulmagent]

I am kinda really in shock I think ,I also think wfgodot is in shock or disbelief.

I told my husband they found the Mcstays and the Jamison's should be right behind them but I don't think I meant it.


I mean we questioned the search teams and search areas and I am pretty sure we were told they were not on that mountain.. we questioned the dog hits the people in charge of those dogs . What was left for us to ask?
I thought search teams always cleared a 3 mile radius

Yeah I am in shock. I am also heartbroken.


P.S can anyone posting a media link please tag the thread with the post number.

 

[MsFacetious]

Unbelievable. :thud: