OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #2

[Sillybilly]

Their background? Start with the fact that their families have apparently not pushed for this case to stay on LE and the media's front burner. Add the lawsuit and the protective order in re: Mr. Jamison and his father. Stir in both of the parents evidently being on disability, and the talk that Mrs. Jamison suffers from alarming depression. Add a full helping of the family evidently seeking to move with their young child and live an isolated life---they had gone to a fairly remote area to look at land.

Hinkiness permeates this case. While we animal lovers focus on the dog, it in fact may not have even come into their chain of caring. They may have had what, to them, were larger fears and concerns.

To me, some of those very same things are what point me in the direction of foul play. Bobby was no shrinking violet ... he had the moxy to stand up for what he believed he was entitled to by initiating the fraud lawsuit against his dad, and to obtain a PO, and launch another suit re the car accident.

The fact they were looking at property reasonably local tells me they were actually PLANNING their future together, and not in Timbuktu .. they simply PLANNED to relocate a distance from Weleetka, not fall off the face of the earth.

 

[dreamweaver]

I know that the Jamison's were there to look at property. They had already looked at another piece of property that day.
They wanted the simple life, off the grid time.
I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea, with a child needing school. Perhaps, home schooling.

That area where they disappeared is remote.
They were parked on a dirt road.

IMO: They went for a short walk to check things.
They had a severe accident.
Perhaps into an underground cavern, an old well.

No one checked on that pickup for days. It is a wonder the dog did
survive.

I think someday they will be found.

 

[Roselvr]

I wonder how much cash there was - "a substantial amount" is vague in the extreme. To one, that might mean $400. To another, in the thousands. (To me, $800 = "a substantial amount.") If they disappeared voluntarily, they may have left some big bills to throw off LE.

I think the amount was posted.. think it was around $40k.
Hopefully someone that follows this case closer then I do can confirm if I'm right.

 

[wfgodot]

To me, some of those very same things are what point me in the direction of foul play. Bobby was no shrinking violet ... he had the moxy to stand up for what he believed he was entitled to by initiating the fraud lawsuit against his dad, and to obtain a PO, and launch another suit re the car accident.

The fact they were looking at property reasonably local tells me they were actually PLANNING their future together, and not in Timbuktu .. they simply PLANNED to relocate a distance from Weleetka, not fall off the face of the earth.

Eufaula, not Weleetka (where another of OK's unsolved mysteries - the murder of Taylor and Skyla - originates), and Eufaula's not exactly, say, Tulsa. It's not isolated, but it can't very well be said to be on the grid. It's a lake community, not a place of hustle and bustle. They'd already moved recently from OKC to Eufaula and, to think that the latter would also be too big for them beggars my imagination and suggests, to me, that they were very ungrounded and also that they may have felt that, while land outside of Red Oak would be more isolated, disappearing entirely would be the ultimate in getting away from it all. Perhaps they simply skipped a step in becoming isolated.

As for Mr. Jamison, it doesn't take all that much moxy to hire a lawyer and sue and take out a protective order on your dad. It does suggest that he was fearful and had become isolated from his family, two components which add to the "they voluntarily disappeared" suggestion.

As always, I really don't know.

 

[wfgodot]

I think the amount was posted.. think it was around $40k.
Hopefully someone that follows this case closer then I do can confirm if I'm right.

I'm thinking that info was from Topix, and reliability is not a hallmark of Topix "facts." I don't recall reading it from a published source, but I could be wrong (as always!).

 

[mysticrose]

My gut tells me this family was forced into another vehicle or perhaps got into one willingly. It is a difficult case because when it was determined they were missing alot of time, along with weather would hamper evidence of a struggle or perhaps seperate tire tracks around the area. For all we know that vehicle could have been moved to that location.LE is not talking about the GPS that was in the truck, except for the fact that the last place on there was the first piece of property they looked at if I remember correctly, so perhaps someone shut it off, and moved this truck to where it was found ...

I still would like to know if they have located the man who stayed with them for the summer months, the rumored " White Supremacist " that had been making comments to Sherrilynn about her Indian heritage and how she should not be alive according to Sherrilynn's friend ....

 

[mysticrose]

I don't think that would be right either about the truck being moved because it seems a witness stated that they had seen and spoke with the Jamison's on the 8th and then the morning of the 9th of OCT. I'll see if I can find a link for that brb....

 

[webrocket]

I don't think they ALL fell in a hole. It was claimed that with the rugged terrain and his bad back, he could not have walked far. So getting into someone else's vehicle is a definite possibility.

 

[nadjatheresa]

I know that the Jamison's were there to look at property. They had already looked at another piece of property that day.
They wanted the simple life, off the grid time.
I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea, with a child needing school. Perhaps, home schooling.

That area where they disappeared is remote.
They were parked on a dirt road.

IMO: They went for a short walk to check things.
They had a severe accident.
Perhaps into an underground cavern, an old well.

No one checked on that pickup for days. It is a wonder the dog did
survive.

I think someday they will be found.

That's a good question about their plans for school. I tried to look it up and it looks like the closest elementary school might be Buffalo Valley in Talihina, which is about 18 miles from Red Oak (which is 6.5 miles from Panola Mountain).

Does this sound right?

Would it be within the bus zone?

It doesn't seem especially suspicious to me that someone would want to live in a rural area (although this is REALLY rural) or build the eco-friendly crate house, but unless you were going to home school, you would probably want to be closer to a school district?

Plus, doesn't Sherilynn have a teenage son?

 

[mysticrose]

That's a good question about their plans for school. I tried to look it up and it looks like the closest elementary school might be Buffalo Valley in Talihina, which is about 18 miles from Red Oak (which is 6.5 miles from Panola Mountain).

Does this sound right?

Would it be within the bus zone?

It doesn't seem especially suspicious to me that someone would want to live in a rural area (although this is REALLY rural) or build the eco-friendly crate house, but unless you were going to home school, you would probably want to be closer to a school district?

Plus, doesn't Sherilynn have a teenage son?

She does to my understanding but I believe he lives with the father :waitasec: Someone please correct me if I am wrong ...

 

[mysticrose]

This is the last actually good report I have seen from anyone talking about this family. Video included:
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Missing Eufaula family
Marika Lorraine Reporting KFOR
December 23, 2009

EUFAULA, OK -- The holidays are a time for loved ones to be together, but Niki Shenold worries her best friend's family has been forgotten. 44-year-old Bobby Jamison, his 40-year-old wife, Sherilyn, and their 6-year-old daughter, Madyson have been missing since October 7th.

The family's truck was found near the town of Red Oak in Latimer County.

Investigators found a small dog, cell phones, a global positioning system, maps, shoes, jackets, and cash inside the truck.

More than 300 volunteers searched the heavily-wooded area nearby for weeks with no results.

Shenold is Sherilyn's best friend. The two met in 1998 in the metro, bonded over books, and the friendship took off.

Shenold says, "Our daughters were born exactly one month apart and they were best friends as well."

The Jamison's had a lake house in Eufaula and loved it so much they moved there full time.

Shenold says, "They were good people. People are speculating about drug deals and this or that, but they just were people trying to live. I don't know what to think, I mean it's as if they stepped out of the truck and vanished."

After weeks of unsuccessful searches, Shenold says she's convinced the family is gone for good.

http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-news-missing-eufaula-family-story,0,1686074.story

 

[mysticrose]

Ok I am just reading some comments from this link, I'll paraphrase:

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kfor/TAG238Q0RV9NNM07K

Rusty Sh******** Wednesday Dec 23 Post # 3

This man states he knows Bobby and had just seen him 2 weeks prior to their disappearence and that Bobby was in alot of back pain, doesnt believe they would go far from the truck. Wants to know why LE just quit looking for them .

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Of course alot of comments again about that being a bad area and alot of people have gone missing from there and never seen again. Boy we sure hear that alot about that area.

I plan on reading some more and post anything of interest but need to get lunch done for my little one. I'll be back shortly

 

[Roselvr]

I'm thinking that info was from Topix, and reliability is not a hallmark of Topix "facts." I don't recall reading it from a published source, but I could be wrong (as always!).

You could be right..
I don't read Topix for this family; if I did, it was something someone copied to here. I have not followed this case like the other OK cases

 

[little726]

Here is an interesting article I found lastnight. Very interesting!

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=408

I really think you need to know just where you are going when you travel that part of the landscape.

 

[wfgodot]

You could be right..
I don't read Topix for this family; if I did, it was something someone copied to here. I have not followed this case like the other OK cases

I've been plowing through the Topix posts, and the first mention I find of the alleged $40,000 is this cryptic, completely out-of-context one, from "Detectives searching for missing Eufaula family" (pg 5 #117)

"they had 40000 now it only shows 21000 can you say witness protection"

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kotv/T6L2D00L24TQGVREO/p5

A short time later, another Topix poster (on the "Authorities search for missing Eufaula family" thread, pg 3, #65) takes up the call:

"(...) On an earlier story in the comments, someone called "Known" said that Jamison's had $40,000 and now they only show $21,000.

"It was mentioned this was a land deal. There is more to buying realestate than showing up with cash and why cash instead of a bank draft? That part don't make sense. If they were just looking then why have that much cash?"

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/eufaula-ok/TJJINE5FVDHE8JPOI/p3

I'm still pretty sure I read the $40,000 figure as being the amount found in the vehicle (allegedly of course), on Topix someplace. Back to looking.

 

[wfgodot]

UPDATE: several days after the two Topix posts I listed above, someone chimed in with another amount said to have been found in the vehicle:

"Well, here's what I was told 2 days b4 it came out in our paper... that the family were all missing and their truck was found locked up with a dog, GPS, cell ph., maps, wallet, purse,$30,000.00 in cash and a note that the woman had written that they were calling a murder-suicide note. Now all but the amount of cash(papers state 'a large sum' of money) and the note have turned out 2 b true. That's why I was asking if anyone else heard anything about a note..." ("Loved ones speak out on search for missing Eufaula family," pg 4, #69)
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/eufaula-ok/T75OCCCMAFJTU8FL5/p4

 

[wfgodot]

FURTHER UPDATE: on Jamisons thread #1 on WS, the figure $41,000 gets tossed around, evidently discovered on a Topix thread, but no links did I find, and certainly no published sources for any specific dollar amount.

 

[webrocket]

I don't buy the murder suicide one bit. Have they tried to verify the authenticity of this note? Anyone could have written it.

Why do I say i don't buy it at all? The guy could not walk very far in that terrain. If they found no bodies anywhere near the truck, then they did not get out and walk very far. Someone else was there and took them somewhere and killed them. I see no indicia of a voluntary disappearance.

 

[little726]

Has anyone here been able to find out who owns the property where the Jamison's truck was found?

Does the property have a lien against it? Was it about to be sold?

Oklahoma has a tax lien sale the first week in October. This is around the same time the Jamison's came up missing

 

[mysticrose]

Hi Little great thought ! I don't think we ever did get an actual address or location to this property ....