OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #2

[SuziQ]

I do want to add, that if they were murdered, we all think they knew the person. Sherilyn would never leave her purse or ID, or anything valuable to her. When she visited me, she carried her purse everywhere she sat. That is why I think she was comfortable with getting out of the truck with whoever it was, and leaving her purse. I don't know. Maybe I'm just grasping at straws, but we do need to know more about Bobby. Like I said I will start asking more questions to my son's dad and maybe we can figure something out.

Welcome to WS! Do you know anything about the man who was living with the Jamisons? IIRC, the media reported that there was some previous problems with him and they kicked him out of the house. LE was not able to locate him to question him in relation to this case. At the time this was reported anyways.

 

[jamisonssister97]

Welcome to WS! Do you know anything about the man who was living with the Jamisons? IIRC, the media reported that there was some previous problems with him and they kicked him out of the house. LE was not able to locate him to question him in relation to this case. At the time this was reported anyways.

I didn't know about a person living with them. I will be asking my son's dad tomorrow. I will try to get his name. I'm know he will know. Expecially if they can't find him, then someone on here maybe be able to and we can call in LE as a tip. Good job girls. Everyone must be comfortable with him to not have mentioned him.

About what kind of drugs Bobby was on, I know for sure coke. And when he came down off coke is when he would get mean with Sherilyn. But, Sherilyn took Zanies (sorry my spelling isn't the greatest), and a bunch of stuff because like I said, she was medically crazy. She always had her meds with her. So, Bobby could have been on those as well. If he was hurt by his dad as bad as they say, then he could have been addicted to pain pills as well. I will ask my son's dad exactly what he knows. In the beginning, my son's dad was on the phone with Oklahoma Police everyday. But the police told him to not discuss the case to anyone. You would think they would want him to to find answers. I know he will tell me though. Because if I ask him, then he does tell me. He wants to find his sister really bad. Sherilyn's and my son's father's other sister died 2 or 3 years ago over a bee sting and she was only 36. We were best friends. So this is very hard for everyone. That was one reason why Sherilyn was here in September to get some things of her sister and her mother (connie) things. I will be back on. Keep posting questions or any information. I have to check on my husband, he is sick. But, what ever I read, I will find out about. I am going to check on that roommate for sure. That is a bit weird to me. I can't believe they can't find him.

 

[jamisonssister97]

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If you could, would you please find out what drugs Bobby was on.

Even if Bobby murdered Sherilyn (or vice versa) and Madyson and placed their bodies somewhere else, you would think at least one body would be found in close proximity to the truck and cadaver dogs should have been able to find them.

Mish-mash of thoughts here ..

I'm still curious about the "hunters" who say they spoke with the family. A relative of mine was killed in an organized crime, contracted hit. Two hitmen (never found, and believed to be from the US) posed as "hunters" looking for directions. They spent 2 days in the area prior to the hit (I suppose waiting for the perfect moment). Men with guns in hunting season gives peeps reasons to be stomping around in remote areas.

There is something bugging me that I can't quite zero in on ... about the fact that they DID look at the first property the day before. Somehow it seems to me that knowledge should include/exclude certain peeps and motives, but i can't seem to wrap my head around it. Has to do with who knew what, when about the specific location of the properties and precisely when the family would be arriving to view them.

Oh, also, Sherilyn has a son who is around 18 yrs old. He lives with his father Billy in either Colorado, Oklahoma, or California. I will find out the last name of Billy, but her son's name is Colton. They are NOT involved with the disaperance, and helped search. But just wanted to add that. In case there names pop up anywhere with Sherilyn's name.

I never thought about hunters being hitman. That is an interesting thought. I will ask about that first property as well, but if it was the day before, then my son's dad may not know too much. Connie is from Ok, but didn't know they were missing for a week. She found out through watching the news. She saw Sherilyn's pic on the news and called the OK police. But they had been missing for a week before she even knew.

I'll check back in a few. I am going to get a hold of my son's dad and find out these questions. Very interesting to me.

 

[Sillybilly]

First she talks about Bobby Dale's mother trying to get everything. Then, she says only 2 people should be taking care of the property...her and Bobby Dale's mother.

Am I understanding this wrong? It just dosen't make sense to me. :waitasec:

I think she means that the two mothers (herself and Starlet) should be in charge of handling matters jointly, but that Starlet is going gungho making sure she handles (gets?) everything without any consultation with Sherlyn's side of the family.

 

[jamisonssister97]

I am going to say possible not. Just thinking about it, unless they knew the hitman, then Sherilyn would have to be comfortable to leave her purse in the car and take her daughter with her and leave her dog. So, she trusted whoever it was. So someone like a hitman that she wouldn't know, I don't think she would just get out of the truck. I guess if he had a gun, then maybe she was forced out. Good question though.

 

[jamisonssister97]

I think she means that the two mothers (herself and Starlet) should be in charge of handling matters jointly, but that Starlet is going gungho making sure she handles (gets?) everything without any consultation with Sherlyn's side of the family.

Connie is weird and very shy and very depressed person. So, if Starlet has any motive and sees that side of Connie, she could be minipulating Connie as well. Or Connie knows way more then what she is saying. I hope she is okay. Connie is a weird one. I will say that. I think she is hoping that Sherilyn is alive and is trying to save her house. Starlet seems to act as if she knows they are dead. Maybe that is why she is being pushy about the house.

 

[Sillybilly]

Well, that explains why Sherilyn had almost $50,000 in her purse in the truck. Her and her husband, Bobby, split the money as a settlement for a there divorce. I think Sherilyn had the money to get a house for her and her daughter. Which would explain why they were buying land. I will know more tomorrow when I ask Sherilyn's brother (my son's father). Whoever was after them, must not have realized that Sherilyn had the other half. Bobby's father was involved with the mob, and owed a lot of money to someone. That was what I was told by the family. Something to look into, IMO.

If a divorce was in the future but not finalized between Bobby and Sherilyn, then it sounds like they were reasonably amicable about splitting the money beforehand. Bobby would most likely have known the money was in Sherilyn's purse, so I think we can glean from that that Bobby didn't kill Sherilyn and their daughter and flee with the money.

If Sherilyn was planning to buy a house for her and Madyson, surely neither Bobby or Sherilyn would have been purchasing such a remote location without a "man about the house"?

 

[mtrooper]

Is it odd to anyone else that if they were getting a divorce that they would have already split the money? It seems like they were still hanging out togather, even going togather to look at land. And I have to agree with sillybilly that would sure be a remote location for Anyone to live alone at, especially Bobby with his back and Sherilynn being a soon to be a single mother. Makes me wonder if they realized how rural it was when they went to look at it. I wonder if the first property that they looked at was as rural. I also wonder if this wasn't a kidnapping for somthing that Bobbys dad did to tick off the mob. First I thought ransom, but then I think they would have taken the purses, wallets, and money. So maybe it was more of a I am going to make your family suffer, for revenge against Bobby senior. I think that if it was a murder suicide they would have been found close by. I wouldn't think Bobby could carry them very far with his back, and I don't think sherilynn could have carried Bobby too far either. Which leads me to wonder if Bobby killed sherilynn because he didn't want to lose custody of Madyson, so he took off with Madyson and didn't know that Sherilynn had all that money in her purse. Ok I think that's all my ideas at the moment.

 

[webrocket]

Is it odd to anyone else that if they were getting a divorce that they would have already split the money? It seems like they were still hanging out togather, even going togather to look at land. And I have to agree with sillybilly that would sure be a remote location for Anyone to live alone at, especially Bobby with his back and Sherilynn being a soon to be a single mother. Makes me wonder if they realized how rural it was when they went to look at it. I wonder if the first property that they looked at was as rural. I also wonder if this wasn't a kidnapping for somthing that Bobbys dad did to tick off the mob. First I thought ransom, but then I think they would have taken the purses, wallets, and money. So maybe it was more of a I am going to make your family suffer, for revenge against Bobby senior. I think that if it was a murder suicide they would have been found close by. I wouldn't think Bobby could carry them very far with his back, and I don't think sherilynn could have carried Bobby too far either. Which leads me to wonder if Bobby killed sherilynn because he didn't want to lose custody of Madyson, so he took off with Madyson and didn't know that Sherilynn had all that money in her purse. Ok I think that's all my ideas at the moment.

It is not that odd to agree to split the money. Bobby (husband of Sherilyn) certainly was no stranger to litigation and certainly knew how much lawyer's bills can run. Besides, if they agreed to split the money, these other sordid facts about the family might not be aired out in court for the world to see.

What I find mindboggling, and I don't get shocked easily, is how many enemies this guy could have had. With his father's questionable associations, his own drug associations and the possibility that someone wanted his father's money by bumping off the child, the list of people with motives is unusually large for small town America.

 

[mtrooper]

New thought. Anyway to find out if anyone had life INS on the Jamisons?

 

[mtrooper]

I guess it's not so much odd to me that they split the money, more that they did it so soon. I mean it's not like they had allready filled for divorce and were just splitting assets. They were still togather like living togather etc. Just seems early to split the money.

 

[webrocket]

New thought. Anyway to find out if anyone had life INS on the Jamisons?

not really. only if there is a dispute between the insurance company and the beneficiaries. Otherwise it is jusst a private contract that is not a public record.

 

[Sillybilly]

New thought. Anyway to find out if anyone had life INS on the Jamisons?

I don't think there is any way to find that out, mtrooper, and this has always bugged me ... that someone could take out life insurance on a person, bump them off, and the poor old bumpee never had a clue that they were worth more dead than alive due to the cloak of secrecy within the industry.

There should be a registry where anyone can find out who's betting on their longevity.

It would certainly be interesting to know in the Jamison case ... if another person who realized they were not going to be a beneficiary under Bobby Dean's LWT decided they would benefit one way or another.

 

[Roselvr]

I don't think there is any way to find that out, mtrooper, and this has always bugged me ... that someone could take out life insurance on a person, bump them off, and the poor old bumpee never had a clue that they were worth more dead than alive due to the cloak of secrecy within the industry.

There should be a registry where anyone can find out who's betting on their longevity.

It would certainly be interesting to know in the Jamison case ... if another person who realized they were not going to be a beneficiary under Bobby Dean's LWT decided they would benefit one way or another.

Most policies want a physical 1st; so I'd assume one would know if a policy was taken out.

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[webrocket]

Most policies want a physical 1st; so I'd assume one would know if a policy was taken out.

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this means the deceased would have know while he was alive that a policy was taken out due to physical exam. Still not a public record though.

 

[jokie7348]

this means the deceased would have know while he was alive that a policy was taken out due to physical exam. Still not a public record though.

I thought that when someone takes out life insurance on another person, that person has to sign the form.

 

[mtrooper]

I guess there are only two ways to take out a life ins. policy on someone else other than yourself (called my friend who hapens to sell Life Ins.) 1- If you are a parent, you can take out a policy on your child (before they reach adulthood). 2- With the permisson of the person in which you are taking it out on. BUT the information that they ask when you take out a policy is fairly common knowledge (birthday, ss number, mothers maiden name, address, ect.) there is nothing saying that someone who knew the family well couldn't take out a policy and then just forge the signature. She did also mention that if it is a rather large policy they send out an RN to do a physical first. THere is a search that can be done by the Medical Information Bureau but you can only search yourself. It will tell you:

"Coded information identifies medical conditions or medical tests that are reported by MIB Members to MIB under broad categories. There are also a few codes that are non-medical. Those codes report potentially hazardous avocations or hobbies, or results of a motor vehicle report showing a poor driving history. MIB has no actual &#8220;reports&#8221; or &#8220;medical records&#8221; on file, only the coded &#8220;resume&#8221; provided by the Member.

As well as:

"When disclosure is requested, MIB provides you with a list of Member companies that have made an inquiry on you in the prior twenty-four months. Also provided is a list of any Member companies that received your MIB record in the prior twelve months. "

The search is free and you can do it once a year by calling the MIB's toll-free telephone number 866-692-6901

http://www.mib.com/html/consumer_guide.html

So there is also a policy locator search that you can do as well if you are the administrator/ executor of a will, but that will set you back $75, and only has a 30% chance of finding the policy. But if you are POSITIVE that your Great Aunt Beatice had a policy than it might be worth it.

 

[mtrooper]

Hey Jamisonsister97, check your e-mail on websleuths (top right corner of screen).

 

[SuziQ]

I thought that when someone takes out life insurance on another person, that person has to sign the form.

In cases where someone was murdered to collect life insurance, it's common to find out the signature was fraudulent. For insurance agents that insist on having a live person in front of him to sign, they bring their BF or GF in to pretend to be a spouse.

 

[jamisonssister97]

If a divorce was in the future but not finalized between Bobby and Sherilyn, then it sounds like they were reasonably amicable about splitting the money beforehand. Bobby would most likely have known the money was in Sherilyn's purse, so I think we can glean from that that Bobby didn't kill Sherilyn and their daughter and flee with the money.

If Sherilyn was planning to buy a house for her and Madyson, surely neither Bobby or Sherilyn would have been purchasing such a remote location without a "man about the house"?

Sorry I don't much about Bobby. I am trying to figure everything that happened and what was said when Sherilyn was at my house in September. She was not with Bobby then. And I think the dog was a sign to the mob. I could be wrong. I also was wondering if it was a kidnapping as well. At least that would make it possible that she would still be alive and her daughter. But, then, why kidnap and not take the purse and ID, etc. My head has been spinning since I have been on here the past couple of days. I'm trying to slow my mind down and write it out. I had no idea all this stuff would probably come into play to find her back then. I guess that's why they we take life for granted. I will back on in a bit. I have to run some errands then I will be on later.