OK OK - Jamison Family; Truck, IDs, money, & dog found abandoned, Oct 2009 - #7

[wfgodot]

Ok, I have an idea. Being that we don't have a sticky here for this thread and information keeps getting lost and then we have to search for it I was thinking of starting on blog (on here) so that the info would be easily accessible.
So, one last time, let's put the info on here and I will copy it over.
Got the phone records

Truck coords?

Dates?

ready, set, go!

wfgodot, a.k.a. He Who Keeps the Sacred Truck Coords and Does Little Else, Really, says,

"35.006097,-95.200653"

 

[mtrooper]

Yes the number was 918. Can I post the next thee? I don't want to tempt fate with the Mods. As far as S.H. There were multiple calls to him, I believe the 5th was the last I will have to check. but his phone number was out of TX. So was the church peoples phone number. IIRC Edgewood tx was one town. The Jamisons stopped at his place (he had one his shipping containers down by the road) looking for directions the first day. Then they stopped back in the second day and chatted again. He said they seemed really happy and were excited about moving up on the mountain and getting away from the city. They made it sound like they wanted privacy. But I did notice that all the pieces of property had oil rigs on them. I know star has some oil leases. Maybe they were thinking about an income source? Any other reason you would want an oil rig on your property? Seems like that would be counter productive in the whole privacy thing. The tank sat up in the air. You can see it in one of the pictures in the very background of the photos of the truck. I think I can post it now that it has been released by media, correct? What dates you want Sarx? Court? Search?

 

[little726]

Yes the number was 918. Can I post the next thee? I don't want to tempt fate with the Mods. As far as S.H. There were multiple calls to him, I believe the 5th was the last I will have to check. but his phone number was out of TX. So was the church peoples phone number. IIRC Edgewood tx was one town. The Jamisons stopped at his place (he had one his shipping containers down by the road) looking for directions the first day. Then they stopped back in the second day and chatted again. He said they seemed really happy and were excited about moving up on the mountain and getting away from the city. They made it sound like they wanted privacy. But I did notice that all the pieces of property had oil rigs on them. I know star has some oil leases. Maybe they were thinking about an income source? Any other reason you would want an oil rig on your property? Seems like that would be counter productive in the whole privacy thing. The tank sat up in the air. You can see it in one of the pictures in the very background of the photos of the truck. I think I can post it now that it has been released by media, correct? What dates you want Sarx? Court? Search?

You could always PM the number to me :angel:.

The Jamisons stopped by the neighbors container or SH's container?

 

[sarx]

I'll take anything that is fact. I figure this way as people come in or just can't remember something there will be a sort of one stop shop to easily scroll through the info.

 

[mtrooper]

09/24/08- Bob Sr. Files divorce
11/04/08-Star files for protective order against Bob Sr.
5/1/09- Bob jr. Applies for PPO against Bob Sr.
5/11/09- bob jr. Sues Bob sr and star for the gas station.
12/16/09- Star files for estate
8/17/09- final dissolution of marriage between Star and Bobby.

This is a start on all things court.

 

[mtrooper]

Jamisons stopped by the neighbors container.

 

[Soulmagent]

Soul, if you're looking at the tires from the photo we have of the actual truck with the doors open, could you be looking at the tread right beside the front driver's side of the vehicle?

I believe that a might be a track left by the sudden stopping of a 4 wheeler as there is a parallel track to that one that appears to be near the same depth and the two look like they match or go together.

What I am trying to fathom is when those two tracks were left because if they'd been made at the same time the Jamisons truck arrived on its resting spot then the truck would've impacted the 4 wheeler, and I don't think that's what happened.

I do see what appears to be a very small pile of dirt in front of the driver's side of the truck that appears to have fallen off the wheel, but in order for the dirt to be there, it would've been flicked off when the truck was moving forward or jarred off when the truck came to a stop, and that's provided that we know for certain, the truck is in the exact position when found.

I'm kind of suspecting the truck was moved forward later due to the position, angle, and depth of the 4 wheeler track definitely made by a sudden stop IMO.

Then again, if a 4 wheeler made a sudden stop there, I would think we'd see evidence of it either backing up, messing up the tracks left behind or going forward, and the track seems to have come to an abrupt stop altogether--as if the 4 wheeler was lifted from it's position into the air. Very puzzling to me.

In looking at this yet again, I'm not quite as inclined to think these are 4 wheeler tracks made by one 4 wheeler, the reason being is that the 2nd. track to the left of the first, looking head on at it, should have that same veer or curve as the first, and I'm not seeing that. It should take place before the shade of the vehicle completely covers it up.

My tire thing comes from the tires only. I didnt not toss the tracks in the mud from the ground into why I think the truck was backed up a half a tire rotation after making a sudden stop.I do not think the truck was moved before the LE officers took the photo's. My opinion is based on the mud on the tires only. I could be wrong but the big mud clump on the upper part of the tires make me think I am not . Foward and no stop no mud clump. Foward
and brake mud clup but the truck would have rolled over it.
Now I want to look at the tracks too. I dont even think the mud clump is important.

 

[justthinkin]

I don't know, Soul. Myself, I'm just not sure. I have driven trucks all over deer leases in both muddy and dry conditions, and a mix of the two where only long deep ruts continued to hold water.

I have been in situations where mud caked on the tires so much so traction was a real problem even with 4 wh drive. Hit dry areas, and the dry dirt adheres to the mud already on the tires. How quickly the tires discharge their load of mud can depend on what speed a person is traveling combined with the weight of the mud and type of tread.

Really can't say if that truck has rolled backwards half a turn. Wish I could be of more help on that.

I guess my late husband elected me to do the driving so in case we got stuck he could say it was my fault, not his. LOL. We may have on occasion found ourselves almost sideways to the road, but I never once got us stuck, and I'm kind of proud of that.

 

[wfgodot]

YOUR Oklahoma Wake-Up Headline Jolt o' Caffeine on a Cloudy December Weekend!

Oklahoma City man admits conning baby sitters by posing as autistic and wearing diapers

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-man...article/3522781?custom_click=lead_story_title

Much, much more at the link. Too much more, as a matter of fact!

 

[nanny2five]

YOUR Oklahoma Wake-Up Headline Jolt o' Caffeine on a Cloudy December Weekend!

Oklahoma City man admits conning baby sitters by posing as autistic and wearing diapers

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-man...article/3522781?custom_click=lead_story_title

Much, much more at the link. Too much more, as a matter of fact!

that story contains too many layers of WRONG!!!!

 

[Soulmagent]

that story contains too many layers of WRONG!!!!

Yeah, I was trying to shake it from my head all morning.

 

[wfgodot]

Yeah, I was trying to shake it from my head all morning.

LOLOL. Me too. I shouldn't have inflicted that on the rest of us.

 

[socalsuz]

Was the angry letter TO Bobby? If so, it must have been written that day and may be the source of unease we see on little Madyson's face in the pic. I am guessing it was written that day, because why would you carry around a mean letter written in the past if you were currently getting along? It would be like a festering sore.

 

[mtrooper]

Yes the letter was to Bobby, but there was no date.

 

[Soulmagent]

Was the angry letter TO Bobby? If so, it must have been written that day and may be the source of unease we see on little Madyson's face in the pic. I am guessing it was written that day, because why would you carry around a mean letter written in the past if you were currently getting along? It would be like a festering sore.

NS says it was a journal entry type of thing. I dunno. Maybe it was the letter she was leaving for him when she leave to move but hadnt decided to actualy leave him yet?

My mom writes crazy stuff like that Letters to people she never plans on giving them. They are for her "book" that is to be published after she dies. (um ok mom). So my family is cursed with 40 notebooks of the passage of her life and descent into lush land of angry rants to specific people and whatever else she felt like writing in them.

Your right a festing sore is what it would be,and very well could be. She could of had him read it already. It may have been in the truck and she not know it was there,like he hid her journal from her??

 

[C-Bar]

I have been looking for a link where I can watch the ID program again as stupid me didn"t DVR it!!All I can find is the preview.Would someone please help me out?TIA!!

 

[Cazzie]

I have been looking for a link where I can watch the ID program again as stupid me didn"t DVR it!!All I can find is the preview.Would someone please help me out?TIA!!

Ditto--I haven't seen it yet either and it's killing me. Not really, but YKWIM.

 

[little726]

I have been looking for a link where I can watch the ID program again as stupid me didn"t DVR it!!All I can find is the preview.Would someone please help me out?TIA!!

Somewhere in my travels I read that it will be re-broadcast on December 26th.

 

[Soulmagent]

Watcher9 posted a post about how they had a shovel and maybe they buried money on the mountain. It is odd they had a shovel since Bobby was disabled . I dont think they buried money on the mountain but I do think it is a great way to find them.

So I think we should make a poster that says "they may have buried 30 thousand on the mountain."

Everyone would be looking for them.

 

[iluvmua]

Is it possible they fell off a cliff?