Found Deceased OK - Mark Chastain, Billy Chastain, Mike Sparks, Alex Stevens, Okmulgee, 9 Oct 2022

[sgmet]

If you look at the pictures of Joe K. Being processed in the Volusia, Fl court, he is a pretty big dude. While he is 67 he has performed physical work in those scrapyards for many years.
I am 69 years old and run in 5k races, backpack, hike etc., other participants in these events are my age or older.
So it is not beyond reason that he is physically strong and was able to chop up and transport the body pieces by himself. Plus certainly the adrenaline was flowing.

Absolutely. And he wouldn't necessarily need to "chop up" the bodies, an old and out of shape hunter like myself could easily quarter a deer with a camp saw in about 5 minutes. And it's not a horrifically messy as one might assume.

 

[SuziQ]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582876829786021888

https://twitter.com/x/status/1582791980244869120

He looks beefy enough to haul bodies around. Imo.

 

[Magnoliabeach]

Y'all when I was speculating that someone Cartel involved or trained had murdered these guys, my thinking was that the four friends inadvertently stumbled onto something way over their heads, seen something they shouldn't have seen or tried to steal something that they shouldn't have stolen, not that they were deliberately involved in dealing with Cartel folks. Someone who knew of their plans could have ratted them out. Nothing makes sense really, but then we're rational law abiding people.

Some posters have made a very good argument that the four could have been murdered by one man. But dismemberment. Sheesh. I just can't wrap my head around it.

Then there was the Cosmo Denardo Kid in Pa that killed those 4 boys with the help of his cousin. In that case money fluenza from parents have put him him in a psyche ward.

 

[Cryptic]

Y'all when I was speculating that someone Cartel involved or trained had murdered these guys, my thinking was that the four friends inadvertently stumbled onto something way over their heads, seen something they shouldn't have seen or tried to steal something that they shouldn't have stolen, not that they were deliberately involved in dealing with Cartel folks.

<modsnip: off topic gang logistics>

So perhaps....

The crew gets wind of lower mid level stash of marijuana at the yard. Stealing any such stash can be dangerous, but this one belongs to one of the first cartel farm teams to operate in the US. The crew is ratted out.

JK, a contractor, then calls up the cartel farm team and informs them that he expects "problems" at the yard. The farm team then sends a few members to "solve" the problem using the Mexican SOP?

 

[jay716]

<modsnip: off topic gang logistics>

The crew gets wind of lower mid level stash of marijuana at the yard. Stealing any such stash can be dangerous, but this one belongs to one of the first cartel farm teams to operate in the US. The crew is ratted out.

JK, a contractor, then calls up the cartel farm team and informs them that he expects "problems" at the yard. The farm team then sends a few members to "solve" the problem using the Mexican SOP?

You said it so much better than I ever could have, and you are exactly right.

 

[BeckyF]

Then there was the Cosmo Denardo Kid in Pa that killed those 4 boys with the help of his cousin. In that case money fluenza from parents have put him him in a psyche ward.

I thought he was in prison?

 

[Eli9]

Mom of Oklahoma quadruple murder victim says bodies were cut in half

Teresa Stevens told DailyMail.com her son Alex, 29, and his friends Mark, 32, and Billy Chastain, 30, and Mike Sparks, 32, were ;first shot multiple times,' before being chopped up.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[LauraAnne]

Mom of Oklahoma quadruple murder victim says bodies were cut in half

Teresa Stevens told DailyMail.com her son Alex, 29, and his friends Mark, 32, and Billy Chastain, 30, and Mike Sparks, 32, were ;first shot multiple times,' before being chopped up.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Interesting, that what the media has been calling "Billy Chastain's house" is referred to in this article as an abandoned house where the men hang out.

We've questioned where the men worked - mom says Alex Stephens was a dietary aide at an elderly facility.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Mom of Oklahoma quadruple murder victim says bodies were cut in half

Teresa Stevens told DailyMail.com her son Alex, 29, and his friends Mark, 32, and Billy Chastain, 30, and Mike Sparks, 32, were ;first shot multiple times,' before being chopped up.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I thought the cartel beheaded their victims?

 

[Stunned]

I thought the cartel beheaded their victims?

That’s got to be easier than cutting them in half! (Sorry)

 

[ashhouston]

did he kill them because they've been stealing? If that's the case why not just shoot them call cops tell them they broke in felt his life was in danger? but to go to this level seems a bit more than punks stealing from my property a night

 

[LauraAnne]

I thought the cartel beheaded their victims?

I think often they cut off their tongues, meaning don't rat us out, or sometimes do even more disgusting things I won't type here. I've never heard of a cartel cutting someone in half - that seems PURELY to make transporting them easier, to me.

 

[LauraAnne]

did he kill them because they've been stealing? If that's the case why not just shoot them call cops tell them they broke in felt his life was in danger? but to go to this level seems a bit more than punks stealing from my property a night

He shot at punks before for simply stealing from him at night. In that case, I believe they got away, so who knows how it would have ended. As gruesome as this is it's not clear he dismembered them for any purpose other than to be able to hide his crime.

 

[FrostedGlass]

Interesting, that what the media has been calling "Billy Chastain's house" is referred to in this article as an abandoned house where the men hang out.

We've questioned where the men worked - mom says Alex Stephens was a dietary aide at an elderly facility.

I'm glad the news brought that out about the house. I found the addy the other day and was surprised to see on the map what shape it was in. The first thing I thought was "trap house".

Due to the house's location, I can see why LE were confused when they went east. It's a much more direct route to take a couple of short jogs, (south, east) then straight down to the junkyard.

 

[FrostedGlass]

From the link above:

He said one of the men's cell phones 'pinged' its location several times around the 20th Street salvage yard.

The phone pinged at that location until approximately 7:55pm then the phone pinged another location about six miles away at another salvage yard that is owned by Kennedy a little after 8pm that same night.

The phone pinged for several minutes then went silent, 'either the battery died, it was tuned off or the phone was destroyed.'

 

[Ragnarok]

POI story is going to be interesting. He run because he was scarred/knows something/is the perp. Going to be awhile before this story finishes. Oklahoma and this town are something else.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

RE above posted information about Billy Chastain's phone locations (not pings) as shown on an app, per his wife.

There have been a number of articles and a statement by LE about the locations of the phone. It has only been previously reported that the group left Billy's house at about 8 PM and never earlier (when it would have been daylight). Mark's wife said she spoke to him at about 5:30 PM, that is not the time they were last seen or left Billy's house.
The house is not abandoned, and it did not look like that a week ago. The family is standing in front of it, now with some plywood on the windows, but still referring to it as Billy's house. Maybe the family with small children couldn't stand to stay there or there didn't feel safe and left. The times of the phone at different locations are also previously given differ from this one article. Again, this is not based on pings but an accurate location app on another phone.

Okmulgee police search for four men who disappeared

Okmulgee police are searching for four men who vanished overnight.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Rocky Mountain Hi]

RE above posted information about Billy Chastain's phone locations (not pings) as shown on an app, per his wife.

There have been a number of articles and a statement by LE about the locations of the phone. It has only been previously reported that the group left Billy's house at about 8 PM and never earlier (when it would have been daylight). Mark's wife said she spoke to him at about 5:30 PM, that is not the time they were last seen or left Billy's house.
The house is not abandoned, and it did not look like that a week ago. The family is standing in front of it, now with some plywood on the windows, but still referring to it as Billy's house. Maybe the family with small children couldn't stand to stay there or there didn't feel safe and left. The times of the phone at different locations are also previously given differ from this one article. Again, this is not based on pings but an accurate location app on another phone.

Okmulgee police search for four men who disappeared

Okmulgee police are searching for four men who vanished overnight.

www.yahoo.com

Did you mean, "the house is now abandoned"?

 

[RAISINISBACK]

<modsnip: off topic gang logistics >

The crew gets wind of lower mid level stash of marijuana at the yard. Stealing any such stash can be dangerous, but this one belongs to one of the first cartel farm teams to operate in the US. The crew is ratted out.

JK, a contractor, then calls up the cartel farm team and informs them that he expects "problems" at the yard. The farm team then sends a few members to "solve" the problem using the Mexican SOP?

Not sure that works for me. Oklahoma has one of the most lenient MJ laws in the nation. There is a dispensary on every corner almost. MJ sells for 60.00 an ounce here. Every single person in a household is allowed to grow/have 6 adult plants and 6 baby plants with a Medical MJ card. You don't really need an excuse to get a medical MJ card. Your nerves are bad, you are not sleeping, your big toe hurts and you get it. You can possess up to so many grams, I forget how much, without a medical MJ card in your possession. All you have to do is give the officer an excuse for having the MJ. Like "see officer, I have a hang nail so I need my MJ" and you are not charged.

All the empty old schools are being bought up by people (mostly Asians, Chinese to be more specific) to put in MJ grows. huge warehouse buildings that have been empty for years has a MJ grow now. Everybody and their mama is growing MJ in Oklahoma now.

Not much business for cartels in MJ here in OK now.

JMO

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Did you mean, "the house is now abandoned"?

It's possible, but Mark's wife interviewed in front of it twice and called it Billy's house, and I found it on an address search as being his and his fiance? I think it's just in terrible condition. They can't afford to fix broken windows? The first reports all said Billy's house on W 6th St, that's where that is.