OK, Noah Presgrove, 19, Sept 4, 2023, Comanche, homicide, attended a house party, found on side of road

[Live_and_Learn]

IMO if you find the person who left the folded clothes and get them to talk you solve the mystery.

You mean the police? He want found with shirts folded next to him. They were found on the road.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

You mean the police? He want found with shirts folded next to him. They were found on the road.

I remember reading only that a pair of shorts was found folded next to him. Did auto correct strike again?

 

[Live_and_Learn]

I remember reading only that a pair of shorts was found folded next to him. Did auto correct strike again?

Yes, it looks like my autocorrect struck or I just made a typo with "want." Sorry.
The shorts were in the road. They were folded next to him after police arrived. This case has been difficult to follow with so little factual information and so many rumors. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Yes, it looks like my autocorrect struck or I just made a typo with "want." Sorry.
The shorts were in the road. They were folded next to him after police arrived. This case has been difficult to follow with so little factual information and so many rumors. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.

No worries at all! I figured that's what you meant.

 

[Sarg]

Do we even know if this is being looked into by law enforcement?

 

[Seattle1]

Authorities Reveal Suspicions from Strange Scene Where Noah Presgrove’s Body Was Found (Exclusive)

Jeremie Wilson has been the sheriff in Jefferson County, Oklahoma, since 2017 and he says he’s never seen anything quite like the mysterious death of 19-year-old Noah Presgrove

people.com

July 15, 2024

Jeremie Wilson has been the sheriff in Jefferson County, Oklahoma, since 2017 — and worked in law enforcement since 2005 and served in the military before that — and he says he’s never seen anything quite like the death of 19-year-old Noah Presgrove.

Wilson was one of the first authorities on the scene early on Sept. 4 after two 911 callers reported seeing Noah's body while driving down Highway 81 just outside of Terral, Oklahoma. [..]

Undersheriff Jimmy Williams was soon sent out; Sheriff Wilson joined him not long after, along with members of Terral’s volunteer fire department, who helped secure the scene. [..]

“What I saw from the very beginning, I personally did not believe this was a hit-and-run,” Wilson, the Jefferson County sheriff, said in an interview, while also making clear that he was speaking only in his capacity as a first responder in September because the state immediately assumed jurisdiction, given that the death was reported on the highway.

What Wilson saw that morning was this, he says: Noah was naked and on his back, with “a couple of teeth laying next to his body.” According to his autopsy, he wore only a pair of mismatched shoes, and a pair of white printed shorts were nearby that showed no "observable damage."

“There was blood on the scene, but not as much as there should have been, let me put it that way,” Wilson says. “Even if you were hit by a passenger car by highway speeds that night … there should have been a lot more blood.”

Inside the Investigation of Noah Presgrove’s Mysterious Death — and the Unanswered Questions

Although new information regarding what happened to Oklahoma teen Noah Presgrove has been released, key details remain unanswered or in dispute

people.com

July 28, 2024

The state of Noah’s body is still the subject of many of his family’s most urgent and unanswered questions.

Naked, Noah wore only mismatched shoes: an Adidas on his left and a Hey Dudes on his right, per the autopsy report. “Debris and grass” were stuck in the laces of each, with more in the left shoe.

A silver-plated chain necklace from Noah’s grandmother lay scattered in pieces not far away, near remnants of a tooth.

His undamaged shorts were first seen about 30 yards away.

Jack, Noah's best friend, tells PEOPLE that the shorts were actually borrowed from him: Noah put them on after cleaning himself up following the ATV incident

“The report answers some questions but also raises many more,” Dailen told PEOPLE after reviewing the report. "I'm at a loss of words." [..]

In Noah’s case, the medical examiner has said that the 19-year-old died from “multiple blunt force injuries." How Noah became injured in the first place, however, remains “unknown.”

Included in the autopsy report are toxicology tests, Those tests appeared clean, with no amphetamine, methamphetamine, fentanyl, cocaine, opiates, PCP, barbiturates, or benzodiazepines detected in his system. (The panel of tests are not designed to detect other drugs like oxycodone, methadone or clonazepam.)

Alcohol was found in Noah's system, although it’s unclear what effect, if any, that had in the circumstances surrounding his death.

“At this time, what transpired on how the body was found on the road having multiple blunt force injuries is unknown,” medical examiner Leonardo Roquero wrote in the autopsy report. “Therefore, the manner of death is deemed undetermined.”

ETA: I'm not sure of the where or why but there seems to be much emphasis here on Noah's shorts being found "folded on the road." I don't believe this came from first responders but perhaps from local Jack Newton who alleged the shorts belonged to him, and that he was Noah's best friend.

Sheriff Wilson cited Newton and his father Caleb as locals who were at the scene along with members of OK Highway Patrol and Firefighters. Newton further described to PEOPLE that he basically stumbled upon the scene that morning when he was heading fishing, and stopped when he saw a semi-truck stopped on the roadway with headlights shining on Noah.

 

[AcerPacer]

Nothing new to report in this mystery?

 

[Gemmie]

Nothing new to report in this mystery?

The only "news" I've seen is they recently held their 2nd annual car show. All proceeds from the event go toward the Noah Presgrove Memorial Scholarship, as well as to raise awareness for Noah. Other than that... crickets.

Car show in Comanche looks to fund memorial scholarship, raise awareness for Noah Presgrove

The 2nd Annual Noah Presgrove Memorial Car Show was held along with the Spring Fest in Comanche on Saturday.

www.kswo.com

 

[AcerPacer]

The only "news" I've seen is they recently held their 2nd annual car show. All proceeds from the event go toward the Noah Presgrove Memorial Scholarship, as well as to raise awareness for Noah. Other than that... crickets.

Car show in Comanche looks to fund memorial scholarship, raise awareness for Noah Presgrove

The 2nd Annual Noah Presgrove Memorial Car Show was held along with the Spring Fest in Comanche on Saturday.

www.kswo.com

Thank you for your reply!
This has now been 18/19 months without much/any further developments?
IMOO, I am very surprised those party goers, their parents and their close circles haven't cracked under the strain of carrying their undisclosed information yet.

As time goes on without any developments, do you think "guilt" gets less heavy?

MOO, JMO

 

[Chimera]

I still think the clue may be in his missing clothing.
Imo.

 

[Live_and_Learn]

Partners in True Crime appear to be trying to develop some sort of series with Netflix.

 

[Quiet Time]

I still think the clue may be in his missing clothing.
Imo.

IIRC his clothing was neatly folded...right?
Puzzling.

 

[Gemmie]

IIRC his clothing was neatly folded...right?
Puzzling.

That's what about a dozen and a half people have posted in this thread. Those posts can be found by searching This Thread for the word folded.

 

[less0305]

That's what about a dozen and a half people have posted in this thread. Those posts can be found by searching This Thread for the word folded.

And yet, everything I've read in the news said the shorts were found "undamaged" nearby. I've never seen a report that says the shorts were folded.
This is the most perplexing case. And may be one that will never be solved. Sad for his family.

 

[Gemmie]

And yet, everything I've read in the news said the shorts were found "undamaged" nearby. I've never seen a report that says the shorts were folded.
This is the most perplexing case. And may be one that will never be solved. Sad for his family.

If this article is to be believed then it appears that LE folded his shorts and set them down next to Noah.

Blood pooled by his head and seeped through the sheet covering him, Dailen recalls, adding that several of Noah’s teeth had fallen out and investigators had collected Noah’s white shorts from the middle of the road and folded them by Noah’s body.

Noah Presgrove’s Brother Recalls Getting Call That 19-Year-Old Was Found Dead: 'That Drive Felt Like a Year'

Driving to the scene where the teen's body was found, his brother remembers the agony of "not knowing if we were about to see Noah on the side of the road"

www.yahoo.com

 

[less0305]

If this article is to be believed then it appears that LE folded his shorts and set them down next to Noah.

Blood pooled by his head and seeped through the sheet covering him, Dailen recalls, adding that several of Noah’s teeth had fallen out and investigators had collected Noah’s white shorts from the middle of the road and folded them by Noah’s body.

Noah Presgrove’s Brother Recalls Getting Call That 19-Year-Old Was Found Dead: 'That Drive Felt Like a Year'

Driving to the scene where the teen's body was found, his brother remembers the agony of "not knowing if we were about to see Noah on the side of the road"

www.yahoo.com

Thanks. I don't believe I had read that article before.

 

[cocomod]

Noah Presgrove’s family files civil suit against people allegedly responsible for his death​

Noah Presgrove’s family files civil suit against people allegedly responsible for his death

The family of the Stephens County teen found dead along Highway 81 in 2023 has filed a civil suit against a number of people who they claim are responsible for the death.

www.kswo.com

According to a newly filed civil suit, the estate of Noah Presgove is seeking thousands of dollars in damages from the defendants who they say beat Noah to death.

 

[Seattle1]

Noah Presgrove’s family files civil suit against people allegedly responsible for his death​

Noah Presgrove’s family files civil suit against people allegedly responsible for his death

The family of the Stephens County teen found dead along Highway 81 in 2023 has filed a civil suit against a number of people who they claim are responsible for the death.

www.kswo.com

According to a newly filed civil suit, the estate of Noah Presgove is seeking thousands of dollars in damages from the defendants who they say beat Noah to death.

IMO, this civil suit seems to me to be more about strategy where they can obtain depositions from each of them in attempts to gather info, and force them to talk. JMO

 

[AcerPacer]

Noah Presgrove’s family files civil suit against people allegedly responsible for his death​

Noah Presgrove’s family files civil suit against people allegedly responsible for his death

The family of the Stephens County teen found dead along Highway 81 in 2023 has filed a civil suit against a number of people who they claim are responsible for the death.

www.kswo.com

According to a newly filed civil suit, the estate of Noah Presgove is seeking thousands of dollars in damages from the defendants who they say beat Noah to death.

Yes yes yesssss!

In addition, the petition accuses all nine of the defendants of conspiring to host a party for underage drinking.

9 defendants! I don't suppose we can speculate here...

#Justice4Noah

 

[AcerPacer]

Estate of Noah Presgrove files wrongful death lawsuit

The estate of Noah Nichols (Presgrove), a Comanche teenager who was found dead in September 2023 on Labor Day Weekend, has filed a wrongful death...

www.comancheok.net

Filed Monday in Stephens County District Court, the lawsuit accuses eight named individuals, several unidentified defendants, and Val Petrol, LLC — operator of Napoli’s convenience store in Marlow — of negligence, civil conspiracy, and wrongful death.